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Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

Convex posted:

loving hell food prices seem to be going up a bit. Popped into Tesco after the school run and a standard pack of Lurpak was £4.50?!

Don't buy Danish butter then

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The own brand stuff is certainly cheaper though I don't know if there are any big domestic UK butter brands, it's all Irish or continental.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Haramstufe Rot posted:

Even down at the peripherique you'll still have one boulangerie per block that would qualify as "best bakery in the region" in other countries like UK or Germany.

:stare:

This will have a Nachspiel.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

It was the spreadable one in a tub, normal sized. This was a Tesco Express though so probably a mark up, still stared at it for a solid 30 seconds though.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Haramstufe Rot posted:

Don't buy Danish butter then

I get the Lidl own brand one which is about £1 something, just noticed it when I was getting milk

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Convex posted:

It was the spreadable one in a tub, normal sized. This was a Tesco Express though so probably a mark up, still stared at it for a solid 30 seconds though.

The spreadable should still be much cheaper than that.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/253886894

I don't think there is a tesco express near me so I dunno how much they normally mark them up.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
petit boulangerie

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

Antigravitas posted:

:stare:

This will have a Nachspiel.

Every single Boulangerie in Paris owns the pants off of any Bäckerei. In Germany, a bakery where they make every single thing inhouse and have a window where you can see the bakers working is a "Hipster bakery". In France, it's just a bakery.
German bread is technically far superior to French bread, but then Germans also only buy the very very cheapest of everything.

Don't get me started on cheese and wine, bro.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

OwlFancier posted:

The own brand stuff is certainly cheaper though I don't know if there are any big domestic UK butter brands, it's all Irish or continental.

Most of the own brand ones up north of the border say they're Scottish milk so idk

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Haramstufe Rot posted:

German bread is technically far superior to French bread

Wut. German bread is their worst crime against humanity.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumpernickel

A German colleague keeps banging on about how the red wine from Pfalz is the best wine in the world, while overlooking that our office is a 1.5 hour drive from Beaune.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Tesco Metro notoriously set prices compared to local shops, not big supermarkets, and once they've driven all the local competition out of business what do you think happens?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

lmao at german technical bread superiority.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

The own brand stuff is certainly cheaper though I don't know if there are any big domestic UK butter brands, it's all Irish or continental.

Anchor are the biggest brand of butter in the UK by like a pretty huge distance.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Is that real dark salty bread German? That poo poo is top tier

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Rye bread (not pumpernickel) absolutely bangs

Also Italian cheese is superior to French. Fight me, frogs

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Anchor are the biggest brand of butter in the UK by like a pretty huge distance.

I wonder if I forgot about them because lurpak has the nice silver packaging so you notice it more.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

I wonder if I forgot about them because lurpak has the nice silver packaging so you notice it more.

Apparently they charge you more for the nice packaging, too!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Oh sure which is why I wouldn't necessarily bother with it but a lot of the others seem to go for gold packaging which makes them all blend in a bit.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I always confuse Lurpak with cream cheeses like Philladelphia because the packaging doesn't make me think of butter.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

I can't believe it's not Tory joke w/ Keith's face on't.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I wonder if I forgot about them because lurpak has the nice silver packaging so you notice it more.

Lurpak also had some very famous and memorable Aardman Animation-made adverts through the 80s and 90s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jdkEcw2jn8

so it's entirely possible they've entered your brain through cultural osmosis. It's notable that most of the thrust of the original adverts is "Listen we know it's not International Signal Yellow or 50% salt but it is, still, technically butter, trust us". I now also have the Country Life butter jingle stuck in my head, a good quarter of a century after it was last transmitted. Advertising is some seriously loving powerful poo poo.

Apropos of nothing, a few months ago I genuinely thought I'd got covid because my morning toast tasted really, really loving weird and was extremely panicky until I noticed I'd picked up unsalted butter by mistake.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

I got like 2kg of Lurpak from Costco for a very reasonable price and actually mostly just use it for baking now...

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

stev posted:

I always confuse Lurpak with cream cheeses like Philladelphia because the packaging doesn't make me think of butter.

It honestly reminds me of the cigarettes my grandmother used to buy.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Revealed: police barred from searching Queen's estates for looted artefacts

quote:

Police have been barred from searching the Queen’s private estates for stolen or looted artefacts after ministers granted her a personal exemption from a law that protects the world’s cultural property, the Guardian can reveal.

Buckingham Palace and the government are refusing to say why it was deemed necessary in 2017 to give the Queen an exemption that prevents police from searching Balmoral and Sandringham.

A spokesperson for the Queen dismissed any suggestion that stolen or looted artefacts were being held on the monarch’s private estates.

The Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS), which gave the monarch the special dispensation, declined to say whether it had been proposed by royal aides or ministers. The DCMS is also keeping secret a set of emails that may shed light on why the Queen was granted immunity from the law.

However, documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act appear to suggest the department used opaque language in a parliamentary bill that obscured the purpose of the exemption from the public.

There goes the plan to fund new police tanks with nazi gold i guess

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
My "Not involved in looting artefacts" law has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the law.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


That's just them hiding Prince Andrews personal collections

Eddy-Baby
Mar 8, 2006

₤₤LOADSA MONAY₤₤
A friend requested a primer on "politics"; they have not been interested in this, ever, but it seems they might be starting to notice that Bad Things are Happening. The recommended reading for this thread seems a bit heavy, though. Any thoughts on what/where I could send them?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Convex posted:

loving hell food prices seem to be going up a bit. Popped into Tesco after the school run and a standard pack of Lurpak was £4.50?!

What’s that Elsie??? an opportunity to tell people how to make their own spreadable butter!!!!!!

kenwood mixer + the ball whip (fneh fneh) attachment. You want two large double creams, set it going at 3 and let it go from standing constituency till it starts to break down into a yellow liquid. Panic that you hosed up, keep it going until all of a sudden your ball is full of butter, and the rest is butter milk.

Pour the butter milk off and keep for pancakes and Extract butter from between wires.

Now loads of people wrap the butter in muslin at this point but I can never be arsed, plunge into cold water and kneed and squeeze till butter milk stops coming out.

Put back in food processor with 1/4 tsp of salt and beater attachment, set it going and add a splash of olive oil to make it spreadable.

Use quickly or freeze half for later use because you’ve done it in your kitchen and it’s the buttermilk you won’t have got out that will send it off in a week.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

is there any reason to do that other than "it's cool"? like, don't get me wrong, that's a good reason, but does it work out cheaper or does it taste appreciably nicer to churn your own butter?

were i to do that it'd be a case of getting supermarket cream, rather than popping down to see my friendly neighbourhood cow, so it's not a case of starting from better ingredients

Cookie Cutter
Nov 29, 2020

Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Eddy-Baby posted:

A friend requested a primer on "politics"; they have not been interested in this, ever, but it seems they might be starting to notice that Bad Things are Happening. The recommended reading for this thread seems a bit heavy, though. Any thoughts on what/where I could send them?

In this circumstance, if it's a friend friend, the best way I've found is to just have a chat with them, try and find out what they already know, and work from there as objectively as you can, making sure they're aware that anything they hear from you will be necessarily biased from your viewpoint. Most people have the nebulous idea that unelected power and money are really in charge, so you can start from there with something like "For better or worse, the Conservatives are, or were created originally, as the party to defend and represent those interests democratically, whereas Labour.." and so on and so on.
In my view it's like, what are we Marxisming for at all, if we aren't ready to rise to these kinds of occasions whenever they pop up unexpectedly, and put things in plain unradical terms anyone can understand. It's good practise for oneself as well. Ok I go lurk again now ;)

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

is there any reason to do that other than "it's cool"? like, don't get me wrong, that's a good reason, but does it work out cheaper or does it taste appreciably nicer to churn your own butter?

were i to do that it'd be a case of getting supermarket cream, rather than popping down to see my friendly neighbourhood cow, so it's not a case of starting from better ingredients

“It’s cool” with occasional “oh poo poo this cream is about to go off” (e; you do get the butter milk as well which makes it ever so slightly profitable)


It is way more delicious than your supermarket own brand butters though - I do a thing where I combine it with black garlic and then spread it on toast.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Eddy-Baby posted:

A friend requested a primer on "politics"; they have not been interested in this, ever, but it seems they might be starting to notice that Bad Things are Happening. The recommended reading for this thread seems a bit heavy, though. Any thoughts on what/where I could send them?

That's kind of vague to be helpful in recommendations. Do they know absolutely nothing and so need to understand what 'parliament' and 'liberal' and 'socialist' means or are they ready for 'why capitalism is killing you' but not so blunt?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

is there any reason to do that other than "it's cool"? like, don't get me wrong, that's a good reason, but does it work out cheaper or does it taste appreciably nicer to churn your own butter?

were i to do that it'd be a case of getting supermarket cream, rather than popping down to see my friendly neighbourhood cow, so it's not a case of starting from better ingredients

When we were kids my folks had goats. (see what I did there haha)
The main reason for getting them was I had terrible eczema and in those days it was believed to be allergy to cow's milk. Naturally, given that the goats were producing 18 pints of milk a day, I refused to drink it because it tasted foul.
Anyway, dad used to churn butter and cream from the goat's milk.
(Also, the accommodation that came with dad's job had a large orchard which the goats helped keep under control. One of the nanny goats got jealous of my mother and if she was ever sitting on the garden swing when dad wasn't around, this goat would charge at mum from behind.)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
I mean if you omit the actual butter-making part and just do the "whip olive or other vegetable oil into butter" bit you get spreadable butter that is considerably cheaper and better tasting than most spreadable butter (I think they always overdo the oil in shop-bought spreadable, it always has a slightly funny taste to me).

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Cookie Cutter posted:

In this circumstance, if it's a friend friend, the best way I've found is to just have a chat with them, try and find out what they already know, and work from there as objectively as you can, making sure they're aware that anything they hear from you will be necessarily biased from your viewpoint. Most people have the nebulous idea that unelected power and money are really in charge, so you can start from there with something like "For better or worse, the Conservatives are, or were created originally, as the party to defend and represent those interests democratically, whereas Labour.." and so on and so on.
In my view it's like, what are we Marxisming for at all, if we aren't ready to rise to these kinds of occasions whenever they pop up unexpectedly, and put things in plain unradical terms anyone can understand. It's good practise for oneself as well. Ok I go lurk again now ;)

I would also suggest talking if possible, the thing that convinces people is the environment in which they are exposed to information, not the information itself, generally, so being told to read a book probably won't work that well.

Failing that I would probably suggest some lefttube videos, they're usually easy to digest and listen to and there are enough different creators that it can help to create the desired echo chamber effect.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Turn up with both volumes of Capital, a bag of shrooms and a cocked eyebrow.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

When I was 7 or so my mum was pretty hippy dippy at the time and made butter. Once. It was pretty good, I asked why we couldnt have it again, and it's because it took her like 2 hours to make a tiny little pat of the stuff (by hand, no food processor involved, not sure we even owned one in 1984). Something similar happened when one of her mates got her a freshly killed pheasant (or something, I forget what type of bird) and she had a go at defeathering and butchering it from scratch herself.

Never tried it myself. I have tried making cheese (but, I was aiming at feta and ended up making blue cheese, oops)

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Mar 25, 2021

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Sounds like you traded up in the world tbh.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

I mean it smelled pretty good but I'm still not going to eat blue cheese that wasnt actually intended to be that.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The gutrot is part of the blue cheese experience anyway.

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