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Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


just imagine the possible intersection between cylinder deactivation tech and subscription based car features :allears:

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Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

You delete that goddamn post right now before someone who is in a position to suggest this to an exec sees it.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

dissss posted:

It's not like the 'real thing' looks any better.



I'm seeing lot of them around now since MB gave up and slashed prices to get rid of the excess ones stacked up in showrooms.

Yeah, that was a real head scratcher from Mercedes, probably hoping to jump in with the relative success of the VW Amarok. However you could buy the same ute, with I guess better support and service, from Nissan at a far cheaper price.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



Motronic posted:

You delete that goddamn post right now before someone who is in a position to suggest this to an exec sees it.

!!!

:siren: this is not a drill :siren:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Motronic posted:

You delete that goddamn post right now before someone who is in a position to suggest this to an exec sees it.

Not emptyquoting

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Motronic posted:

You delete that goddamn post right now before someone who is in a position to suggest this to an exec sees it.

Who needs cylinder deactivation tech when you can simply disable the ignition by sending spoofed commands from the stereo system

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Cylinders As A Service

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

MRC48B posted:

Cylinders As A Service

JIT power delivery

honda whisperer
Mar 29, 2009

Anyone been following the whole EPA wants to ban the entire car aftermarket thing? I just saw it and depending on who reads it seems to go from "just quit rolling coal" to "all motorsports based on production cars will die".

I'm fine with the epa cracking down on smoke tunes but also don't want to see aftermarket ecus get the axe as a side effect.

Lot of smart goons in AI and I'd love to hear your $.02

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

honda whisperer posted:

Anyone been following the whole EPA wants to ban the entire car aftermarket thing? I just saw it and depending on who reads it seems to go from "just quit rolling coal" to "all motorsports based on production cars will die".

I'm fine with the epa cracking down on smoke tunes but also don't want to see aftermarket ecus get the axe as a side effect.

Lot of smart goons in AI and I'd love to hear your $.02

They're cracking down on stuff intended to defeat emissions controls. It's not anything new, they're just getting more serious about it.

I don't see any evidence that they're trying to ban all aftermarket parts.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
FWIIW, in europe all the emissions stuff means that any engine tuning is challenging and a standalone ECUs can be very difficult to pull off, to the point of having to swap it back and forth, along with any parts that won't work with the stock one. Hopefully that's not what you're getting.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
The Mercedes truck thing seems like it died more because of some corporate dustup between Daimler and Renault/Nissan than because it was a bad idea. I know if I ran Porsche there'd be a Cayenne EXT on the market yesterday.

Bouillon Rube
Aug 6, 2009


I mean is there really a market for that kind of thing in Europe? Luxury pickups seem like a uniquely American/Australian way to display wealth.

Also the interior looks like they just tacked a generic Mercedes dashboard to a Frontier and called it a day

Bouillon Rube fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Mar 26, 2021

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!



Ah, I see you are a person of perversions culture.

Motronic posted:

You delete that goddamn post right now before someone who is in a position to suggest this to an exec sees it.


Also, I didn’t know until today that a Mercedes Benz truck ute existed.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Darchangel posted:

Also, I didn’t know until today that a Mercedes Benz truck ute existed.

What the gently caress? What model?

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Throatwarbler posted:

The Mercedes truck thing seems like it died more because of some corporate dustup between Daimler and Renault/Nissan than because it was a bad idea. I know if I ran Porsche there'd be a Cayenne EXT on the market yesterday.

No it really was a bad idea. They struggled to sell the drat things in New Zealand and mid size utes are pretty much the only new vehicle people buy here.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Humphreys posted:

What the gently caress? What model?

X Class. Barely lasted 3 years on the market. And considering how gung-ho most Aussies are for dual cabs, it was a large gently caress up:

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/mercedes-benz-x-class-ute-dropped-122661/

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


And yet they didn't sell it in the US. Put a v8 in it and it would have sold like hotcakes here despite being a loving nissan.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
A V8 isn't going to fit in that chassis.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

dissss posted:

A V8 isn't going to fit in that chassis.

Not with that attitude.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


dissss posted:

A V8 isn't going to fit in that chassis.

Gimmie a pry bar and a brave man to wield it. Or like some big ol corn fed midwesterner.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Collateral Damage posted:

High beam assist has been garbage in every car I've tried with it and no way it's worth $160.

I know that's not the point of the post though.

So here's the thing I discovered in my 2020 BMW

1) If it's a North American car, half the fancy poo poo they advertise the headlights for is simply disabled in coding. they turn on and off, and turn with the steering, that's about it

2) if you're into playing with coding and such, you can simply code it back to using the full capabilities of the headlights, in my instance I re-coded it to utilize the laser headlights in high-beam assist so they work like they should (create a tunnel of light around other cars at night, dip and turn with the curves etc, which is all de-activated for north america)

2.5) once you code the headlights to work like their euro counterparts it's great, they basically turn on high-beam at night and never turn off, because they're smart enough to work around the other traffic to not blind anyone, meanwhile high-lighting the things you really want to see, it's super impressive in motion as you can actually see the lights parting, moving and turning off and on in portions as traffic comes and goes from infront of the car


Bouillon Rube posted:

Yeah, for urban/suburban driving it loving sucks on my Mazda- it gets really confused by random light sources (lights in buildings, streetlights, etc) and constantly flickers on and off which is needlessly distracting.

I really wonder if this trend of unlocking features via software is going to open a huge can of worms with people jailbreaking/sideloading content onto their cars (and subsequently loving up their ECU’s with ransomware viruses)

3) they are working on locking down the DME so if you play with the coding, it will flag your car as such and basically void the entire warranty if they catch you. every new software update the forums are alive with 'this is it! the dme is locked!' but it is yet to actually happen

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Bouillon Rube posted:

I mean is there really a market for that kind of thing in Europe? Luxury pickups seem like a uniquely American/Australian way to display wealth.
It literally never even crossed my mind that Australia would be a market for luxury pick ups until this came up, I just assumed that was a Canadian/US phenomena maybe with the odd persian gulf citizen thrown in.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
The only difference is Australian luxury pickups are somewhat smaller and less luxurious than the North American models. And they're almost all four cylinder diesels.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
What are the 10-speed Ford transmissions like? The Raptor has one of those behind a twin-turbo 2.0 diesel, they're pretty new to Australia I think.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Elmnt80 posted:

And yet they didn't sell it in the US. Put a v8 in it and it would have sold like hotcakes here despite being a loving nissan.

You'd think that, but those Lincoln luxo-trucks never sold worth a poo poo.

If you want to sell pickups in the US it better have a bowtie, oval, or sheepie on the front.

The Tundra and Tacoma, built by the world's most famed for reliability automaker don't sell as much as Ram does per year, combined.

The F-150 sells almost twice as many units as Ram.

American people don't want no "frou-frou" German truck, they want a giant luxury vehicle that can haul their camper once a year, and that's "tough" otherwise people might think they have a tiny weiner.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

X Class. Barely lasted 3 years on the market. And considering how gung-ho most Aussies are for dual cabs, it was a large gently caress up:

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/mercedes-benz-x-class-ute-dropped-122661/

LOL That's no ute.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Bouillon Rube posted:

I mean is there really a market for that kind of thing in Europe? Luxury pickups seem like a uniquely American/Australian way to display wealth.

Also the interior looks like they just tacked a generic Mercedes dashboard to a Frontier and called it a day



They sell a ton of vans and other commercial vehicles so it kind of makes sense to have a truck too but I guess nobody was impressed by a rebadgges nissan.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Darchangel posted:

Also, I didn’t know until today that a Mercedes Benz truck ute existed.

G63 AMG too.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


Elviscat posted:

You'd think that, but those Lincoln luxo-trucks never sold worth a poo poo.


In fairness, Ford significantly misread the market both times, based upon what they delivered. And the current stand-alone Lincoln dealership model isn't going to generate Bubbajoe traffic. Cadillac was moderately successful namely because they were paired with lesser brands in the showroom.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Standalone Lincoln dealers weren't a thing when Lincoln sold the Blackwood or Mark LT.

What doomed them both was completely different. In the case of the Blackwood, it was goofy and useless, so way ahead of its time. It would honestly probably be pretty successful now. With the Mark LT, Ford realized that people would happily pay just as much for an F-150 that was equally nice so they were cannibalizing F series sales for no good reason.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Elviscat posted:

American people don't want no "frou-frou" German truck, they want a giant luxury vehicle that can haul their camper once a year, and that's "tough" otherwise people might think they have a tiny weiner.

The traditional market for F150/Silverado/Ram also don’t want no <insert Asian racist term> made trucks. Never underestimate racism in your stereotypical American truck buyer.

I’ve met many of these people and they’re all dumb and horrible, but you can’t convince them otherwise.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I think that might be a little too broad of a brush.

Sure there are many like that and the majority don't even use their truck as a truck, but big comfy trucks, albeit many with dubious build quality, is something the Big 3 do reasonably well.

Hell, my work Silverado with 5.3 variable displacement gives me noticeably better real world fuel economy than my previous 3 Tacomas and is a hell of a lot more comfortable to drive.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

slidebite posted:

I think that might be a little too broad of a brush.

Oh, for sure, but there are enough of them and they're very vocal about it

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Motronic posted:

G63 AMG too.



Also not a ute.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Motronic posted:

You delete that goddamn post right now before someone who is in a position to suggest this to an exec sees it.

Ohhh you wanna open the windows do you?

gently caress you pay me

Now you want to listen to the radio?

gently caress you pay me

It sure is hot today need some AC?

gently caress you pay me

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

slidebite posted:

I think that might be a little too broad of a brush.

Sure there are many like that and the majority don't even use their truck as a truck, but big comfy trucks, albeit many with dubious build quality, is something the Big 3 do reasonably well.

Hell, my work Silverado with 5.3 variable displacement gives me noticeably better real world fuel economy than my previous 3 Tacomas and is a hell of a lot more comfortable to drive.

Was going to say all of this. The Taco is very expensive for what you get, and returns poor fuel mileage.

Also I have to say that this forum's opinion about trucks never being used as trucks is A Thing, but is exaggerated. Also the bragging about overloading small cars and trucks to their suspension stops is actually terrible car stuff, not evidence of your massive weiner.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Ohhh you wanna open the windows do you?

gently caress you pay me

Now you want to listen to the radio?

gently caress you pay me

It sure is hot today need some AC?

gently caress you pay me

Isn't this Tesla's business model?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Humphreys posted:

Also not a ute.



Applebees Appetizer posted:

Ohhh you wanna open the windows do you?

gently caress you pay me

Now you want to listen to the radio?

gently caress you pay me

It sure is hot today need some AC?

gently caress you pay me

You ordered a sunroof, you got a sunroof. If you want it to open after sundown you need to order a moonroof also.

gently caress you pay me

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Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

FogHelmut posted:

Isn't this Tesla's business model?

Tesla is literally Pauly from Goodfellas

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