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Doesn't Walker mention something about him and Hoskins being on a mission in Chile a couple weeks beforehand at the beginning of the episode? That alone sounds kind of not a good thing considering America's past in Central and South America.
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twistedmentat posted:I can't help but think that the Flash Smashers might end up like the Injustice Society in Stargirl where their end goal is probably a good idea but they are going to kill a lot, and i mean a lot of people in the process and justify it as making the world better. And not just people responsible for the ills, but indiscriminately. I love this twist because it almost justifies the ridiculous name because they're dealing with the injustice of the American capitalist machine Also their manifesto being "Gay rights, institutional reform, UBI and healthcare for all" was such a fun twist
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Mar 27, 2021 03:11
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MH Knights posted:Doesn't Walker mention something about him and Hoskins being on a mission in Chile a couple weeks beforehand at the beginning of the episode? That alone sounds kind of not a good thing considering America's past in Central and South America.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:20
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Wyatt Russell is drat fine in this. The helmet makes him look drat stupid. I liked the 'psyching up' session with his lovely lady friend. It was short but it did a lot to humanize him - he's going to be the poster boy for "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". The psychiatrist being so done with everyone *and* their poo poo made me laugh. That lady has presence and sarcasm to spare.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:39
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BurritoJustice posted:I love this twist because it almost justifies the ridiculous name because they're dealing with the injustice of the American capitalist machine Yea but killing 25%+ of the population of a big part of the US, and some of that has people living in it, not just corn.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea but killing 25%+ of the population of a big part of the US, and some of that has people living in it, not just corn. Cool motive, still murder
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Mar 27, 2021 03:43
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He is a similar thing to what Wanda was constructing in the last series. Wanda was fabricating a romantic narrative to restore a false past and forcing it on others. John Walker is a fabricated incoherent romantic narrative with no connection to origin.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:46
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lmao at Sam's face when Bucky says: It was actually White Wolf.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:48
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"After this we go on separate long vacations, and never see each other again" was a bit mean for two people who were otherwise pretty close all episode. The scene where Bucky falls on top of Sam in the field is straight out of Whedon's romance checklist.
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I figure the Flagsmashers Are fighting for a place for everyone that wasn't blipped. There had to have been something like a non-genicidal Great Leap Forward where the dispossessed were given abandoned arable farm land in exchange for a portion of the harvest. The blip is undone, everyone comes back, and the people that spent the last five years building something had it taken away from them overnight and then they get dumped into refuge camps. We already know the GRC funding Walker's missions are shady as gently caress considering the Power Broker is in charge of it.
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AngryBooch posted:lmao at Sam's face when Bucky says: It was actually White Wolf.
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Sloth Life posted:Wyatt Russell is drat fine in this. The helmet makes him look drat stupid. I saw a horror movie with him and he can go monstrous and violent. I’m thinking he will take the proffered SS improved shot and go more Nuke than comics US Agent. The system has no loyalty for anyone; especially, it’s cannon fodder. Hope this show sticks the landing as I want more people excited for Sam Wilson to be Cap. MH Knights posted:Doesn't Walker mention something about him and Hoskins being on a mission in Chile a couple weeks beforehand at the beginning of the episode? That alone sounds kind of not a good thing considering America's past in Central and South America. Nice. I missed that and really nice touch.
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It's interesting that Bucky and Sam were the two Avengers that prominently used regular guns but now they've got their own series they're going fully hand to hand It makes for more interesting combat scenes I guess
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Did any of Steve's helmets have those open ear holes or did the showrunners do that specifically to make Walker look like the Wish version of Cap?
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BurritoJustice posted:It's interesting that Bucky and Sam were the two Avengers that prominently used regular guns but now they've got their own series they're going fully hand to hand Bucky specifically is trying to not be who he was in the past, so it makes a little sense for him.
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grittyreboot posted:Did any of Steve's helmets have those open ear holes or did the showrunners do that specifically to make Walker look like the Wish version of Cap? Yeah they did, he jus doesn't look like Dumbo because of them though. 
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grittyreboot posted:Did any of Steve's helmets have those open ear holes or did the showrunners do that specifically to make Walker look like the Wish version of Cap? grittyreboot posted:Did any of Steve's helmets have those open ear holes or did the showrunners do that specifically to make Walker look like the Wish version of Cap?  I think they just managed to make the helmet just a little too small so the ears really protrude and add to the uncanny effect. I really loved seeing Walker hanging on the back of the truck, struggling to do a pull-up. It's a subtle callback to when Steve fought loving Ultron on a South Korean highway and had to do pulls like that one-handed
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DogsInSpace! posted:I saw a horror movie with him and he can go monstrous and violent. I’ve only seen him in Lodge 49, where he plays the antithesis of monstrous and violent, so it’s good to know the guy has range.
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Klungar posted:I’ve only seen him in Lodge 49, where he plays the antithesis of monstrous and violent, so it’s good to know the guy has range.
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I got just a whiff of Antony Starr Homelander vibes from the Good Morning America interview at the start of the ep. Maybe it's just because everyone seems insincere on the morning talk shows.
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God I always forget how terrible that Avengers 1 costume was for Cap.
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mind the walrus posted:There's no way he could live up to his Dad and he wisely isn't trying to, but he definitely inherited/learned his dad's range. Check him in this, Overlord, 22 Jump Street, and Lodge 49 and it's a very solid spectrum of affability and he seems to be very good at tuning himself to the right frequency for each part. In this sense it's a cool casting decision. Dude's always going to be compared to his predecessor
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Huh, I had no idea he was Kurt Russell's son Does this make them the first father-son duo to appear in the MCU?
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ShakeZula posted:Huh, I had no idea he was Kurt Russell's son Groot/Baby Groot
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Jerusalem posted:God I always forget how terrible that Avengers 1 costume was for Cap. I'm glad the Russos decided to not use it. Every suit where they don't go with extremely bright blue and red looks perfect.
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ShakeZula posted:Huh, I had no idea he was Kurt Russell's son Anthony Russo's son is one of the kids who asks Hulk for a photo in Endgame.
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MH Knights posted:Doesn't Walker mention something about him and Hoskins being on a mission in Chile a couple weeks beforehand at the beginning of the episode? That alone sounds kind of not a good thing considering America's past in Central and South America.
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Flagsmashers good, the misdirect about them in the first episode seemed to get a bunch of people since them being the antagonists due to their ideology was a complaint I saw people bring up. I do hate the heroic sacrifice part, just knock the loving telephone pole down and peace out of there, knock a few of them down and just leave instead of running directly into their gunfire. I did think it was funny that Bucky decided to run to the first truck and open the back, like the guys in the other truck DIRECTLY BEHIND HIM wouldn't notice?
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:I did think it was funny that Bucky decided to run to the first truck and open the back, like the guys in the other truck DIRECTLY BEHIND HIM wouldn't notice? They probably had the same reaction as the Hulk vs Thanos fight. "Let her have her fun"
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The Civil War suit is the best CA suit. Man, it feels weird to be a third of the way through the series. The series feels like a Brubaker era comic. The title heroes are just as likely or more likely to come to blows with people who believe they are in the right rather than straight villainy. They see and are affected by injustices against which they gain small victories at best. Loved the staring contest and the "Done with this" therapist. I don't know that John Walker is able to mentally equipped to realize that the Flag Smashers have an idealistic goal in mind. To him they are always going to be in the "Bad Guy" category even when Sam Wilson sees that there's more going on. I don't think that he goes off on a violent tangent. He's just lacking the moral compass that guided Steve. I think that in the end he's going to realize how out of his depth he is. Battlestar is so Bucky on the cheap though and man, I don't see him surviving the series.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Flagsmashers good, the misdirect about them in the first episode seemed to get a bunch of people since them being the antagonists due to their ideology was a complaint I saw people bring up. I do hate the heroic sacrifice part, just knock the loving telephone pole down and peace out of there, knock a few of them down and just leave instead of running directly into their gunfire. I did think it was funny that Bucky decided to run to the first truck and open the back, like the guys in the other truck DIRECTLY BEHIND HIM wouldn't notice? He did it because they thought the person in the back was a hostage. So he went to save the hostage, not just smash bad guys or drugs. They expressed that pretty openly. Of course what the plan was beyond that I have no idea. But they also pretty openly expressed that they had no plan.
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Bucky would save a ton of money and fabric if he just started wearing shirts with one sleeve instead of having to rip one of his sleeves off 3-5 times a week.
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Liked it way more than last week's episode. The psychology stuff continues to be a bit wonky, and the show seems to be brushing up against the spectre of queer baiting, but it was decently paced, made some smart choices. I thought the cop scene was handled far better than the bank scene last week, though the move I thought was smartest -- and the one that I've not seen anyone talk about -- was the decision to introduce a Falcon knock-off into the mix, since it sets up the potential to confront the tokenism both of the role and of the role. (I find it a bit off that he and Wyatt Russel's character have apparently been best friends since highschool, but in the sense of it being a massive coincidence rather than anything else.) If the Flagsmashers aren't meant to be villains, then someone really should have told the composer that. The echoing chanting over their scenes removes a lot of the nuance there, but I'm reserving judgement on the show's take until I work out what the series is doing with its female characters. So a B to last week's C. MH Knights posted:Doesn't Walker mention something about him and Hoskins being on a mission in Chile a couple weeks beforehand at the beginning of the episode? That alone sounds kind of not a good thing considering America's past in Central and South America. I don't think this tracks with the Libyan airspace stuff from the previous episode, unfortunately. Generally I'm a little unbelieving of the idea that this show could ever truly criticise the actions of the American military when it's taking so much of their money. ONE YEAR LATER posted:Flagsmashers good, the misdirect about them in the first episode seemed to get a bunch of people since them being the antagonists due to their ideology was a complaint I saw people bring up. I do hate the heroic sacrifice part, just knock the loving telephone pole down and peace out of there, knock a few of them down and just leave instead of running directly into their gunfire. I did think it was funny that Bucky decided to run to the first truck and open the back, like the guys in the other truck DIRECTLY BEHIND HIM wouldn't notice? Yeah both of these things bothered me, particularly the truck sequence. The former I can excuse as being a subject of that elastic quality of emotional editing -- the same sort of reality bending powers than any lead character seems to have whenever they need to say some lengthy emotional goodbyes during what's meant to be a split-second life-or-death situation. But the former's hilariously egregious -- a shame, given some of the more inventive staging going on elsewhere in the episode.
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The heroic sacrifice makes sense. If someone did that to my group, I would probably wonder if more of them are coming, slow down, and look around. The stupidity makes the villain second-guess themselves which is enough time for an escape.
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ShakeZula posted:Huh, I had no idea he was Kurt Russell's son Bill Paxton was on Agents of SHIELD and then they had his son play a younger time-traveling version of the same character. He did a really over-the-top impression of Bill that I suspect he and his siblings had been perfecting behind his back for decades.
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Very amused by Bucky getting beaten up and insulted and arrested for a parole violation all in a day's work. I'm excited to see if Renner channels more Hawkguy in his upcoming show but current Bucky is a pretty fun substitute. I really want to see old man Isaiah go hog wild on some jabronis. I had read that he was cast but for some reason I completely overlooked that they could/would also introduce Patriot, despite all the recent talk about possible Young Avengers.
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Jerusalem posted:God I always forget how terrible that Avengers 1 costume was for Cap. Especially coming right off the heels of his excellent First Avenger costumes.
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Nameless Pete posted:Bill Paxton was on Agents of SHIELD and then they had his son play a younger time-traveling version of the same character. He did a really over-the-top impression of Bill that I suspect he and his siblings had been perfecting behind his back for decades. Oh yeah, that guy was great, and I completely forgot he was actually Bill Paxton's son
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The thjerapist scene felt like Age of Ultron in all the worst ways. The tone of it was all loving wrong and completley killed the momentum of the show. Trying to force a buddy comedy here with scenes that in the narrative itself as forced just made the scene so loving bad and it should've been cut from the show entirely. Some executive saying "we need more jokes!"
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