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RestingB1tchFace posted:Just rewatched Prometheus for the first time in a few years. Is it still generally disliked? I love the Alien franchise...so I can see why casual Alien fans were upset and/or disappointed...but all in all...I think it's a pretty fine film for the most part. It’s one of my favorite Alien films besides the first two. It’s what I want the sequel to be. Weird space adventure with a looming evil corporation behind it all.
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Think we can all agree that Prometheus has great visuals aside from the ship. From the skylines to the chonky face hugger at the end, well done. The ship could be in any sci-fi movie from the 80s onwards. It's the characters and utter stupid actions they take that spoil Prometheus.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:34
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happyhippy posted:Think we can all agree that Prometheus has great visuals aside from the ship. From the skylines to the chonky face hugger at the end, well done. I don't know how you could have lived through the past year and then complain about a character's stupidity ruining a movie.
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Mar 25, 2021 21:46
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PeterCat posted:I don't know how you could have lived through the past year and then complain about a character's stupidity ruining a movie. THE CHARACTERS IN COVENANT WERE SO STUPID WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST WEAR MASKS SO UNREALISTIC
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Mar 25, 2021 22:33
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The characters in Prometheus are excellent actually. Name a more iconic duo than Millburn and Fifield. It's just wild because Prometheus is one of the best scifi films of the past twenty years, and people deride it for the dumbest poo poo. Only Zack Snyder films meet the same level of derision. Covenant is also great, fantastic gothic horror. Let Scott finish his trilogy already!
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Mar 25, 2021 22:48
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wyoming posted:The characters in Prometheus are excellent actually. I dont mind how the characters were dumb in Prometheus, especially since there were plot reasons AND it tied into the themes, but Dr. Manhattan/Barry Allen's dad really irks me in Covenant.
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Mar 25, 2021 22:58
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Darko posted:I dont mind how the characters were dumb in Prometheus, especially since there were plot reasons AND it tied into the themes, but Dr. Manhattan/Barry Allen's dad really irks me in Covenant. his character makes some... wild choices. the original script for the egg scene has a false start, just a few empty eggs before one that's occupied. which sort of made more sense rather than just peeking into the first one after the clear villain encourages him to. incidentally he's been replaced by Ron Livingston as the flash's dad now
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alf_pogs posted:incidentally he's been replaced by Ron Livingston as the flash's dad now What? Crudup is flash's dad in zsjl edit: lol two tabs to the right i see someone has posted a tweet about this
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Basebf555 posted:I think generally out in the mainstream public opinion yea it's still generally thought of as a bad movie and the standard opinion you're supposed to have is that it's bad. Got it. Yeah...I remember being disappointed the first time I saw it as well. But I think each consecutive viewing has made me appreciate it more and more.
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PeterCat posted:I don't know how you could have lived through the past year and then complain about a character's stupidity ruining a movie. Fr
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Mar 25, 2021 23:55
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Just rewatched Covenant and the sequence from when they land on the planet to when David appears with the flare is some of the best most intense poo poo in any Alien film.
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Mar 26, 2021 00:28
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I want Alien: David Ascendant.
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Mar 26, 2021 01:21
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banned from Starbucks posted:Just rewatched Covenant and the sequence from when they land on the planet to when David appears with the flare is some of the best most intense poo poo in any Alien film. Yes I wish the whole movie had been more of this instead of Xenomorphs. Give me the planet of atrocities!!!!
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Mar 26, 2021 01:33
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General Battuta posted:Yes I wish the whole movie had been more of this instead of Xenomorphs. Give me the planet of atrocities!!!! Might I suggest this book: Alien Covenant: David’s Drawings https://www.amazon.com/dp/1785659243/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Y21BKGVW4BZ9ADP2D4P7
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PeterCat posted:I don't know how you could have lived through the past year and then complain about a character's stupidity ruining a movie. Because the general populace isn't professional science-y types. MonsieurChoc posted:I want Alien: David Ascendant. I'm legit worried that Scott's going to die before Disney lets him finish this up and that'll be hosed.
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Mar 27, 2021 00:33
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sigher posted:Because the general populace isn't professional science-y types. Preface, building on your post and not downing you. A tip for Prometheus is that Weylands daughter definitely did not hire the professional science types as that would be entirely against her purpose. She hired the crew, which was Elba and folks who made every correct decision. Also note that she ran to the side immediately and debris redirected her into straight while Shaw got lucky by tripping. For another thing that people didn't notice. The Cinema Sins type don't even know about either of these things. It's frustrating.
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Mar 27, 2021 00:58
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yeah the movie rushes by it pretty quick but Weyland brings along pretty much a bunch of Dr Scott Atlas's, while Vickers hires Captain Sullenberger Prometheus gets better every rewatch, it just cracks along. good fun
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Mar 27, 2021 01:02
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sigher posted:I'm legit worried that Scott's going to die before Disney lets him finish this up and that'll be hosed. Steven Spielberg's dAvId
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Mar 27, 2021 01:04
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I was disappointed with both seeing them initially, but I enjoy both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant more and more on rewatches. Definitely films comprised of parts which are individually better than the total of their parts. Sincerely: the scores, all of the footage filmed in Iceland, Prometheus being probably the best filmed version of At The Mountains of Madness, Alien:Covenant arguably being the best version of The Island of Dr Moreau in recent memory. There's a lot of good poo poo there, much more than some hack doing some stab and slash film where the alien is the monster in the shadows again. Would love to see Scott do a third David film.
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Mar 27, 2021 01:25
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They’re both very pretty and got huge budgets for sci-fi films. They didn’t make that much money but they still made a profit. Wish movie studios let movies get made that don’t need to make a billion dollars.
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Mar 27, 2021 01:36
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I really like the decision to take the alien back to its more bipedal origins. It's so unnerving to see it upright and behaving like a person. It has this odd curiosity about it in the original Alien, like it wants to play with its food.
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Mar 27, 2021 01:37
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Darko posted:Preface, building on your post and not downing you. Fun fact: the Weyland Yutani Report book clarified that Vickers DID hire the scientists, she just specifically picked the dumbest motherfuckers she could find in order to sabotage her dad’s mission. 
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Mar 27, 2021 02:06
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Xenomrph posted:Fun fact: the Weyland Yutani Report book clarified that Vickers DID hire the scientists, she just specifically picked the dumbest motherfuckers she could find in order to sabotage her dad’s mission. Whether or not she did it on purpose, she knew who the really important hires were going to be. The people who are responsible for getting you there and back in one piece need to actually be competent, everything after that doesn't matter.
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General Battuta posted:I really like the decision to take the alien back to its more bipedal origins. It's so unnerving to see it upright and behaving like a person. It has this odd curiosity about it in the original Alien, like it wants to play with its food. I said it before but there’s a shot in Covenant where the alien walks into the ship hangar near the end of the movie and the way it walks into the room like a man is one of the most off-putting shots in the entire franchise.
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ruddiger posted:I said it before but there’s a shot in Covenant where the alien walks into the ship hangar near the end of the movie and the way it walks into the room like a man is one of the most off-putting shots in the entire franchise. Off-putting in a good way or a bad way?
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Mar 27, 2021 02:31
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Xenomrph posted:Off-putting in a good way or a bad way? Not sexy. So your question still applies.
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As someone who knows several PhD scientists and doctors irl I assure you nerds that there is nothing unrealistic in how Milburn & Fifield or Shaw & Holloway behave. Ever read stories about astronaut misadventures? Or watch nature programs where the zoologists traverse incredibly dangerous terrain? Ever drank with an archaeologist? Do you have any idea how many bad tattoos the average chemist has? A doctorate won't prevent a building from falling on you. Expertise doesn't make you immune to panic or being horny or making bad decisions. There's no contradiction between them being idiots and being the best in their particular fields.
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Prometheus is kind of like almost a fun scary movie. It's got some disturbing bits, but all in all it's almost a romp for the viewer. Covenant on the other hand felt a lot more "tense" I suppose. It doesn't have anything like the general atmosphere of Prometheus and is actually somewhat disturbing on the whole. The part where they show that one female character's head floating in the pool of water two times is just generally upsetting. I think overall I enjoy watching Prometheus more than Covenant, but Covenant gives me more of the heavy pit of the stomach feeling.
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ruddiger posted:I said it before but there’s a shot in Covenant where the alien walks into the ship hangar near the end of the movie and the way it walks into the room like a man is one of the most off-putting shots in the entire franchise. 1:50 https://youtu.be/5rcMAo1vplw
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I find the Xenomorph way more interesting and creepy when it moves like a human than when it moves like a Jurassic Park dinosaur. The former is nightmarish, the latter is just boring.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Country Roads, take me home... I love Prometheus, and Shaw is, by far, my favorite character in the franchise, so that Covenant promo with her singing "Country Road," almost as though it were a childhood lullaby as she was trying to think of something, anything else as David was doing unspeakable things to her, always ripped me up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfs9ggTrjDY
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Timby posted:I love Prometheus, and Shaw is, by far, my favorite character in the franchise, so that Covenant promo with her singing "Country Road," almost as though it were a childhood lullaby as she was trying to think of something, anything else as David was doing unspeakable things to her, always ripped me up: trapped alone with a michael fassbender who cannot gently caress maybe it was a mercy killing after all
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Unfortunately I think women alone with Fassbender have received the David treatment in the past.  I always think about that when he’s onscreen as David and as disgusting as it is it to say it kind of adds to his performance. Something perfect but not human and full of rage.Not that I think wife beaters should be cast as androids. His amazing acting doesn’t cancel out his past.
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Mar 28, 2021 19:03
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Ugh, now he's comparable to Lowtax. Just ugh.
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Blood Boils posted:As someone who knows several PhD scientists and doctors irl I assure you nerds that there is nothing unrealistic in how Milburn & Fifield or Shaw & Holloway behave. The thing is: they're probably not even full PhD scientists or doctors. Only Shaw, her husband, and the actual medical doctor woman get called "doctor".
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PeterWeller posted:The thing is: they're probably not even full PhD scientists or doctors. Only Shaw, her husband, and the actual medical doctor woman get called "doctor". Ok, Milburn and Fifield are just in grad school then. That explains why Fifield is so excited to get paid
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