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What should the presidential powers be in 2020? This poll is closed. |
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| UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! |
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3 | 23.08% |
| Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. |
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2 | 15.38% |
| None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! |
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2 | 15.38% |
| Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. |
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0 | 0% |
| None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. |
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4 | 30.77% |
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Kyllä nyt veeteeveen pääjohtajan pitäisi näyttää esimerkkiä muille. Itäsaksalainen ydinpommin kestävä permanentti ja juuttisäkkimekko sopivat muutenkin ekologisempaan ajankuvaan.
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Mar 27, 2021 17:42
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SUPO thinks that human rights are problematic, especially the right to privacy in one's own home https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000007885954.html Funny how they got Eduskunta to grant them the right to erode privacy to a small degree and are instantly asking for more, how about that
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Mar 27, 2021 20:48
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barbecue at the folks posted:SUPO thinks that human rights are problematic, especially the right to privacy in one's own home https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000007885954.html Funny how they got Eduskunta to grant them the right to erode privacy to a small degree and are instantly asking for more, how about that Etenkin tuo salatun viestinnän vastustus oli melkoinen, rip https ja sähköposti.
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Mar 28, 2021 08:42
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Näillä sherlockeilla kesti vuosia keksiä, kuka on Pasilan mies, eikä silloin ollut mitään salattuja whatsappeja vaan salakännykkä huumepoliisin työpöydän laatikossa.
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Mar 28, 2021 08:50
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Do they politely ask Russian agents to not use encryption on their messages because they are so hard to read?
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Mar 28, 2021 10:08
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Keskusta at the point of counting on magic: https://www.hs.fi/sunnuntai/art-2000007883175.html
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Mar 28, 2021 12:28
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House of cards etc...
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Mar 28, 2021 16:02
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Kokoomus: Suomi on meritokratia Suomi:
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Mar 28, 2021 16:51
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DarkCrawler posted:Kokoomus: Suomi on meritokratia I mean she was hired on her merits. They just didn't include "being good at the job".
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Mar 28, 2021 17:28
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I love how the person in charge of watching after everyone else's spending just went "Wait, but who watches the watchmen?" and started buying plane tickets, truly we are a corruption-free society
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Mar 28, 2021 18:40
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I've always wondered what the deal was with NC's angry outbursts about "constitution fundamentalists" ruining things, and this analysis from Yle finally explains the background. It wasn't until 1989 that Finland accepted the European human rights declaration, and with that the legislative focus was shifted from a general singular chapter-in-law to a more holistical constitutional approach. Not everyone was pleased by this, and there are schools of thought among the law academia who think this talk of fundamental rights has gone too far, Ben Zyskowicz (NC) being the most vocal. Indeed, this focus on rights has in turn proved to be problematic to legislative bodies, who have had to painstakingly tried to fit new bills with the constitution, especially in these Corona times. Although it might be that the politicians themselves might be the real problem, since some parties are accused of selectively raising only certain rights to the fore and not just the totality of rights, ie. restaurants having the right to do business. Long story short, it's pragmatistic vs. idealistic approaches to law.
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Mar 29, 2021 10:11
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PYF Erotic Literature     
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Mar 29, 2021 11:06
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Forktoss posted:PYF Erotic Literature Tag yourself, I'm Paasikivi peräsimessä.
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Mar 29, 2021 11:37
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Forktoss posted:PYF Erotic Literature Suomen suurin talonpoika 
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Mar 29, 2021 13:25
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:I've always wondered what the deal was with NC's angry outbursts about "constitution fundamentalists" ruining things, and this analysis from Yle finally explains the background. It wasn't until 1989 that Finland accepted the European human rights declaration, and with that the legislative focus was shifted from a general singular chapter-in-law to a more holistical constitutional approach. Not everyone was pleased by this, and there are schools of thought among the law academia who think this talk of fundamental rights has gone too far, Ben Zyskowicz (NC) being the most vocal. Indeed, this focus on rights has in turn proved to be problematic to legislative bodies, who have had to painstakingly tried to fit new bills with the constitution, especially in these Corona times. Although it might be that the politicians themselves might be the real problem, since some parties are accused of selectively raising only certain rights to the fore and not just the totality of rights, ie. restaurants having the right to do business. I always just figured it was annoyance at the constitution not allowing them to gently caress the poor quite as much as they'd like.
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Mar 29, 2021 15:44
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Forktoss posted:PYF Erotic Literature Marsalkan Ruusu kuulostaa Keltaisen Ruusun Mikkelin haarakonttorilta.
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Mar 29, 2021 16:46
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All those covers and not single one with "Rytinää" in the title, forever doomed to be the most undervalued president ever 
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Mar 29, 2021 18:40
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:I've always wondered what the deal was with NC's angry outbursts about "constitution fundamentalists" ruining things, and this analysis from Yle finally explains the background. It wasn't until 1989 that Finland accepted the European human rights declaration, and with that the legislative focus was shifted from a general singular chapter-in-law to a more holistical constitutional approach. Not everyone was pleased by this, and there are schools of thought among the law academia who think this talk of fundamental rights has gone too far, Ben Zyskowicz (NC) being the most vocal. Indeed, this focus on rights has in turn proved to be problematic to legislative bodies, who have had to painstakingly tried to fit new bills with the constitution, especially in these Corona times. Although it might be that the politicians themselves might be the real problem, since some parties are accused of selectively raising only certain rights to the fore and not just the totality of rights, ie. restaurants having the right to do business. No it's not. Nothing pragmatic about it. Warden posted:I always just figured it was annoyance at the constitution not allowing them to gently caress the poor quite as much as they'd like.
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Mar 29, 2021 18:49
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DarkCrawler posted:All those covers and not single one with "Rytinää" in the title, forever doomed to be the most undervalued president ever I gained some new appreciation for Ryti after reading the Väinö Tanner biography that was published couple of years ago. Ryti really got a raw deal and Kekkonen was an amoral rear end in a top hat with absolutely no scruples or principles. Ryti got the last laugh in a way though, as apparently several of of the speakers in his funeral indirectly and implicitly roasted Kekkonen, who was sitting in the front row, for his actions as the minister of justice during the war guilt trials.
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Mar 29, 2021 18:52
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Yeah, he's like the only president who actually sacrificed anything personally for Finland, while ol' Marski just hosed off to Switzerland once there was no more others' blood to shed. EDIT: ok Finland probably killed Kallio but I always thought that was it's revenge for Kieltolaki
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Mar 29, 2021 18:58
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I have the following novels in the works, you can pre-order by supporting my Patreon  Kunnon kyydit Joensuussa - Ståhlbergien kuumat paikat takapenkillä Matkakuumeen kuriin panemista - Reissu-Lassen viiden ulkomaan seikkailu Ukkometso: Ukko-Pekka Svinhufvud soitimella Siperiassa Kova kuin Kallio Risto panee rytisten osa 2: saippuan tiputtelua Sörkassa Miekkoja ja tuppia - Carl, Adi ja Joe Paasikivi panee parastaan - Kovat panokset YYA-pöydässä Kurkintaa Urkin taa - Paljasta nahkaa Zavidovossa Manun aseen kätkentää Nussintaa Namibiassa - Maran kuuma safari Halosta molempiin päihin Puolisiveä ukkomies
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Mar 29, 2021 19:46
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DarkCrawler posted:All those covers and not single one with "Rytinää" in the title, forever doomed to be the most undervalued president ever If I ever get my "make terrible tracker music" - project off the ground it will be called Risto Rytinä
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Mar 29, 2021 21:53
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:I've always wondered what the deal was with NC's angry outbursts about "constitution fundamentalists" ruining things, and this analysis from Yle finally explains the background. It wasn't until 1989 that Finland accepted the European human rights declaration, and with that the legislative focus was shifted from a general singular chapter-in-law to a more holistical constitutional approach. Not everyone was pleased by this, and there are schools of thought among the law academia who think this talk of fundamental rights has gone too far, Ben Zyskowicz (NC) being the most vocal. Indeed, this focus on rights has in turn proved to be problematic to legislative bodies, who have had to painstakingly tried to fit new bills with the constitution, especially in these Corona times. Although it might be that the politicians themselves might be the real problem, since some parties are accused of selectively raising only certain rights to the fore and not just the totality of rights, ie. restaurants having the right to do business. I would describe it so that there are times where the ideals you stand for oppose each other in practice. Like freedom of moving and assembling as opposed to protecting our fellow lives during a pandemic. You have to prioritise the ideals. Then people reach different conclusions due to different things being important to them (for example, you can't get a pub troll to care for other people if he doesn't even care for what happens to him), and then you will always have this dance where some say you're stomping on basic rights while you're only doing something that essentially needs to be done. Of course cock is the royalty succession party so any basic rights types of ideas aren't so popular. Anyway about constitution. Sometimes initiatives are also criticised based on yhdenvertaisuuslaki in that it will hurt/benefit some segment of the population more than another. Like if a certain type of crime is on the rise one argument against increasing penalties could be that a certain ethnicity would be more prevalent in those who it would affect. Or pay cuts to a profession are protested through claiming it would hit one gender more than the other. While I'm sure every sane person would agree that we should raise the salaries of kindergarten teachers and that we should probably avoid the trap of having our police beating up foreigners, one has to realise that the argument is quite hollow in the end and leads to total paralysis. There are plenty of good arguments available so using this one is just really dishonest. If we really lived through such a rule, we couldn't lower the salaries of top executives because that would mean men would be hit more by it. Or we could but then it would be just arbitrary as to when this equality rule is applied. Even if we always strived for some imaginary middle line towards which all decisions we should nudge ourselves, we would essentially be trying to box nature and human experience to some standard that cannot exist. What I'm trying to say is that we should hold the constitution as more of a guideline than some piece of religious literature you can go absolutely fundamental on. It is literally impossible to follow it all the time and our society would be healthier if we were honest about it. Saying that there are no fundamentalists around this topic would be like saying there are no bible fundamentalists among us. Denying it won't do us any good. Also our politicians decide how to interpret the constitution so we should drop the pretense that it's all very neutral aspect of lawmaking. Of course after a law has passed, a case can go to court and then the supreme court decides that the law they made didn't actually hold water, but that's a long way and sometimes it never happens. I would be open for alternative ideas for dealing with this issue so we're not so dependent on just having a sane majority in some cabinet. Luck can be treacherous.
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Mar 29, 2021 22:14
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okay 'fess up it's doxx time which one of you's is Miikka?  https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11860402 edit: gotta link another Yle article here as well. entrepreneur spends weekends in luxury hotels, oh okay. complains that new covid restrictions make her life worse, wowza. has named her dog Blondi   https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11856333 Nenonen fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 20:48
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Nenonen posted:okay 'fess up it's doxx time Also PM me 
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Mar 31, 2021 02:44
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https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000007893759.html Ei nyt mennyt ihan putkeen  On se hienoa kun pitää alkaa äänestämään joko kommareita tai kristallipuoluetta kun nämä muka tosissaan otettavat vassaripuolueet vetävät tällä tyylillä
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Mar 31, 2021 14:44
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Selvisin sitten näköjään kirjoituksista ilman, että järki meni tai korona tuli. Jos sais huomenna alustavan arvioinnin tyrkättyä eteenpäin, niin voisi alkaa juomaan.
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Mar 31, 2021 14:49
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Welp, the constitutional council or whatever announced that the proposed curfew bills are unconstitutional. Back to the drawing board. Why couldn't they do this last year? Goddamit.
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Mar 31, 2021 15:52
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It was always clear the proposed restrictions were unenforceable and not really intended to be enforced either. So good job perustuslakivaliokunta I guess? 
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Mar 31, 2021 16:00
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I'm glad the use of public funds is monitored so effectively
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Mar 31, 2021 16:28
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So the The Finns of Southern Savolax are in disarray and this article is just  , my favourite bit is that they just can't write proper Finnish statementsquote:Ano Turtiaisen ympärille kietoutuu myös Pieksämäen paikallisyhdistyksen hajaannus. I mean just look at that quoted sentence. Presumably multiple people read that statement before it was released and didn't ask for revisions. Nenonen fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Mar 31, 2021 17:55
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No. 1 Callie Fan posted:Welp, the constitutional council or whatever announced that the proposed curfew bills are unconstitutional. Back to the drawing board. Should have listened to Ben and bypass constitutional assessments!
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Mar 31, 2021 18:05
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Nenonen posted:So the The Finns of Southern Savolax are in disarray and this article is just As someone from Southern Savonia, and indeed, Pieksämäki...none of this surprises me.
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Mar 31, 2021 18:35
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Saatanan savolaiset, yet again.DarkCrawler posted:As someone from Southern Savonia, and indeed, Pieksämäki I've spent enough time there to know to offer my condolences.
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Mar 31, 2021 18:42
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Warden posted:Saatanan savolaiset, yet again. A lot of people do, it's a train hub, I'd say a minute is enough 
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Mar 31, 2021 19:42
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Not gonna lie, Pieksämäki is a really nice place to go kayaking or biking in summer time. Just stay away from the populace.
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Mar 31, 2021 21:12
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DarkCrawler posted:As someone from Southern Savonia, and indeed, Pieksämäki...none of this surprises me. Oh that explains so much about your posting. It's better than the average for the region.
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Mar 31, 2021 22:05
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Nenonen posted:So the The Finns of Southern Savolax are in disarray and this article is just To be fair, they really weren't let go because of a badly worded statement, they were fired because they criticized TAno.
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Apr 1, 2021 02:57
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Warden posted:I've spent enough time there to know to offer my condolences. Me too, like a total of three hours maybe while switching trains. I have seen Elvis Grilli and that was enough for me.
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Apr 1, 2021 05:22
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 quote:Kannatusmittauksen Ylelle tehneen Taloustutkimuksen tutkimusjohtaja Tuomo Turja arvioi, että koronatoimien ympärillä näkyvä keskustelu voi vaikuttaa myös kuntavaalikannatukseen. If this is actually a kuntavaalikannatusmittaus, then the PS number is ridiculous. But as the pollster says, the elections are happening, maybe???, not so immediately so maybe no one just cares about the distinction
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