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Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

MikeCrotch posted:

Michael Walker had him pegged

Explains the sweaty red faced bemusement

E: if you get pegged 161 times, you can get pregante

# ? Mar 30, 2021 00:07

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willie_dee: Jun 21, 2010; I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Where�s the best place to be placing my vote as someone who wanted Corbyn to be PM but now don�t really want to reward Labour for the direction they have gone in?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 01:35

Namtab: Feb 22, 2010

I can see why the labour members wanted kier, i jist don't think he's loved up to the expectations put on him by any standard other than being "not corbyn". Kiers only level of success has been in internal politics for his faction, as leader of her majesty's opposition i cannot think of a single victory, not even a symbolic victory.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 01:45

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

i didnt realise how weird and squeaky his voice was until he was already there.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 01:54

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I think he tried to claim he had something to do with rashford's campaigns on school meals, maybe.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 02:09

CoolCab: Apr 17, 2005; glem

my opinion on starmer hasn't changed

CoolCab posted:

why on earth would mr remain help regain the heartlands. he�ll be tarred with that brush forever

CoolCab posted:

he's Mr Remain and sounds like a tea kettle. he just looks "electable"

from one and two months before the labour contest. call me nostradumbass!

# ? Mar 30, 2021 02:20

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

This New Socialist article from June 2020 was impressively accurate in its predictions.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 02:41

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

An account of cops incorrectly arresting someone for the first Bristol protest

quote:

This has been shared about a bit already but I wanted to reshare what has happened to me on Friday now that I have submitted an official complaint. I think it is important that as many people can see how intimidating, disorderly, undemocratic and incompetent the police force is. Sorry it is a bit long.
In short they tried to arrest me but had the wrong person which would have been obvious if they weren't so incompetent and ill-prepared but the way they went about this arrest was extremely problematic.
On Friday a police officer impersonated a post man at my student house (occupied by young women), telling my housemate that I needed to sign for a broken parcel, when she turned to go upstairs and get me he followed her into the house, uninvited and 3 or 4 more large male officers in plain clothing followed into the house (they could have been anyone), they were half way up the stairs before claiming to be police and waving what must have been a warrant or badge. They then all burst into my bedroom without knocking, without a female officer present, I was not fully dressed.
They immediately handcuffed me and kept telling me they had a warrant for my arrest and that I was under arrest for violent and disorderly behaviour. I was having a panic attack and uncontrollably shrieking, extremely disorientated, asking to call my mum (they said no). They were all big men in my room (which is obviously not a monitored space) and my flatmate was told to leave and go to her room. (context: 100s of police sexual harassment claims that have gone un-investigated have been brought to light the past few weeks plus the rape and murder of Sarah Everard by a policeman... also context: living in Bristol, every day this week I have seen footage of policemen violently assaulting peaceful protesters and innocent civilians - please ask if you need to see this for yourself)
They were unable to take me to the police station immediately like they wanted to because I objected to going without clothes on and they had to call for a female officer so I could be dressed. As this was taking a while, they started talking about the possessions they would be seizing, including what I was wearing on Sunday. I pointed out my coat from that day and they said, sounding like absolute idiots, "oh the girl in the photo wasn't wearing that", then as they had some more time to kill and I was still asking what violent and disorderly behaviour I had allegedly committed and what evidence they supposedly have to have got a warrant for my arrest, and they showed me a photograph.
The photograph of the girl they presented to me after some time of me being in major distress, clearly did not look like me. Her hair was blue and a different cut and length to mine, she had no eyebrow piercing (I do), a different face shape, body type, features, everything. It was SO obvious that when I said �well, no that�s not me� they asked if I knew who it was instead. At this point they were aware of their error of judgement, but they still did not uncuff me immediately. They had no right to cuff me or arrest me before confirming my identity against their so-called evidence (just a photograph of a girl at a protest). I was still in great distress (they used the word �distressed� to describe me so were aware) and they were patronising and untrained to deal with any kind of mental health problems or panic attacks.
Then one of them decided I should be allowed to put some joggers on. This was humiliating as I struggled, crying, to find trousers and put them on while in handcuffs and shaking from the stress and then my housemate was allowed back in to put them on for me.
The whole ordeal lasted around 20 minutes and they finished by telling me I was no longer under arrest but not apologising. They didn�t leave me any paperwork which I believe they are meant to (speaking of procedure, I was very disorientated but am fairly certain they did not read me my rights when arresting me), it is unsurprising that they didn�t want to create a paper trail of their incompetence and vile behaviour. They showed they had found a photo of someone else (a model I did not know) on my professional photography Instagram account, who had blue hair and assumed it was me as I owned the account. This is a ridiculous leap of judgement but also knowing they had my social media, it is clear that the least intelligent person ever could have taken under a minute to see that I was not that girl, just from my social media without raiding my home. I also wonder how police can easily get a warrant for the wrong person yet seem to struggle to catch the actual murderers and rapists on our streets and get justice for real victims.
I will also add one of my flatmates heard them refer to me as their �prisoner� amongst other unprofessional and offensive things they said during the ordeal. In regard to Covid-19 the officers were not wearing any form of face covering or PPE, but they crammed into my small unventilated bedroom, not respecting social distancing and touching my belongings.
It�s worrying that police can get a warrant without any grounds for it and that they proceed to terrorise innocent people. I am uncomfortable in my own home now, I can�t answer the door, even in the daytime comfortably. As well as exacerbating my anxiety to a crazy level, I feel so assaulted and victimised, I also had chest pains and a splitting headache that evening from the stress.
I know people love to have their own opinion and speculate about this kind of thing, but this is a real event that has happened to me and has traumatised me so if you want a political debate go somewhere else as I am emotionally worn down and it would be incredibly insensitive. I am sharing an account, not an opinion. I don�t have faith in the police or the British justice system so to round things off: Kill the bill; the imminent police, crime and sentencing bill will make incidents like this more frequent and intense.
I will be reaching out to press/media about this. Feel free to share but I will not tolerate hate towards me or being spoken about objectively in people�s Facebook comments.
Also, i acknowledge my privilege in this situation. This was a terrible experience for me and my household but I am also well aware of the disproportionate number of black people who have died in uk police custody and have experienced systematic police brutality. I fear for others' physical safety if the police continue doing this.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 06:35

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

There's more protests planned for Bristol and the police are being all sadly disappointed because no organisers are prepared to talk to them any more lol.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-new-kill-bill-protests-5242792

# ? Mar 30, 2021 06:45

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pistol_Pete posted:

There's more protests planned for Bristol and the police are being all sadly disappointed because no organisers are prepared to talk to them any more lol.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/two-new-kill-bill-protests-5242792

I bet they're really disappointed that they'll have to use their batons again.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 08:01

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Rarity posted:

An account of cops incorrectly arresting someone for the first Bristol protest

It would be hilarious how useless they are if it wasn't so awful and terrifying.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 08:27

Wolfsbane: Jul 29, 2009; What time is it, Eccles?

willie_dee posted:

Where’s the best place to be placing my vote as someone who wanted Corbyn to be PM but now don’t really want to reward Labour for the direction they have gone in?

I plan to vote for Arthur Pendragon, but I realise that's not an option open to everyone.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 08:44

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Darth Walrus posted:

This New Socialist article from June 2020 was impressively accurate in its predictions.

Very good article. (It's Feb 2020 btw)

TL:DR - Support RLB in the leadership election, Labour right cannot be trusted.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 08:50

Oh dear me: Aug 14, 2012; I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

willie_dee posted:

Where’s the best place to be placing my vote as someone who wanted Corbyn to be PM but now don’t really want to reward Labour for the direction they have gone in?

I would recommend voting on the basis of what the candidates are like, not their parties. If you vote for a Labour leftwinger you are not actually helping Starmer. Similarly there are very bad, and very good, Greens.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 08:51

Necrothatcher: Mar 26, 2005

Just listened to that David Lammy call on LBC and gently caress that's depressing.

Are the Nazis in this country getting more numerous or louder/more confident? Or both?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 08:58

Firos: Apr 30, 2007; Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism

Necrothatcher posted:

Just listened to that David Lammy call on LBC and gently caress that's depressing.

Are the Nazis in this country getting more numerous or louder/more confident? Or both?

LBC is a fash organisation.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:03

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
_{(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)}

Hello, dear

Necrothatcher posted:

Just listened to that David Lammy call on LBC and gently caress that's depressing.

Are the Nazis in this country getting more numerous or louder/more confident? Or both?

my experience has been a bit of both. trump and brexit made bigots think the political correctness gone mad was over and they could say whatever they liked and the kind of people who refrain from having their own opinions and go along with whatever happens to be being said the loudest in public joined in

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:08

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
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Hello, dear

that phenomenon was actually encapsulated very well in a video someone linked some months ago of a fat ginger bloke on a sofa with a woman. he was making racial slurs about priti patel and that professor van-tam who were on the television together and the woman who was on the sofa with him just kept giggling and saying "you're not allowed to say that omg!!!!!! :sissies:

like that

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:18

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Necrothatcher posted:

Just listened to that David Lammy call on LBC and gently caress that's depressing.

Are the Nazis in this country getting more numerous or louder/more confident? Or both?

Given all of the "fun" over Question Time audience selection and that LBC have already been caught out ringing up an open white supremacist and asking her to talk to Starmer, I'd say they're being deliberately amplified.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:22

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Courtesy of the nice people at r/GreenAndPleasant but lol

I thought his fate was to be trapped in pig? Or at least, inhabiting the body of a pig

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:27

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

crispix posted:

my experience has been a bit of both. trump and brexit made bigots think the political correctness gone mad was over and they could say whatever they liked and the kind of people who refrain from having their own opinions and go along with whatever happens to be being said the loudest in public joined in

A couple of days after the EU referendum I was in a minicab and the driver opened up with how great it was that we'd voted to leave and I did some mealy-mouthed "Eh you know it's gonna be complicated" (my mum was in the car too and we were going on holiday, so I didn't want to get engaged) to signal I definitely wasn't on his side, he kept escalating (even with my Mail-reading mum disagreeing with him) into straight up dropping P-bombs.

He genuinely couldn't seem to grasp that two white people could disagree with him, and even looked confused and hurt more than scared or beligerent when I, ahem, diplomatically explained what would happen if he didn't shut his loving mouth.

(In retrospect I realise I was asking for it, having shaved my head the week before, he definitely thought he had a kindred spirit)

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:34

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

quote:

“No one wanted to put themselves up for being an organiser for the fear of a £10,000 fine, and I understand that, but we can now hopefully resume that conversation, contact and cooperation.”

The commander added police have been reaching out to potential organisers since the weekend.

He said: “Absolutely we have been – especially today. We have gone through a variety of channels with organisations and individuals who could help us achieve that.”

lol

hi there is that mark? it's sergeant pigly of the Avon and Somerset police, I was just wondering if I could discuss organising an illegal protest with you

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:35

Private Speech: Mar 30, 2011; I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Didn't they say they were totally not doing that?

BBC posted:

Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said the UK would need a surplus of vaccines before it could export supplies.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:38

Borrovan: Aug 15, 2013; IT IS ME.
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I AM THERESA MAY

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Given all of the "fun" over Question Time audience selection and that LBC have already been caught out ringing up an open white supremacist and asking her to talk to Starmer, I'd say they're being deliberately amplified.

They are, & they are also stepping up their "groyping" (is that the word?) &c because broadcasters are encouraging them, so it's a bit symbiotic imo. Broadcasters love a bit of controversy, and the fash are happy to give it to them.

In my personal experience: just reflecting on people I know, there's one guy who always had some funny opinions about immigrants but has definitely been radicalised by social media over the last few years, so we've had to cut him out. Conversely though, I also know one guy who's always openly been very conservative, has been absolutely tarred and feathered for it, so he keeps his poo poo to himself these days. I've also seen a few libs getting pushed to the left, supporting antifa &c (tbf though I know a lot of libs working in higher education, & almost all have dug their heels in. I see a bit more open cop-hate though, which is nice)

Basically imo society has become so polarised that people with funny opinions have had no choice but to either double down or shut the gently caress up. I don't think the fash are getting more prominent, but there's definitely a bunch of people who were just a bit fashy before but are now singing it from the rooftops. And of course, those people are being disproportionately signal boosted to make the UK look even more right wing than it is (it is actually still pretty loving right wing)

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:39

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

According to the New Statesman, those weekend rumors about Anneliese Dodds getting the sack were Rachel Reeves (who's after the Shadow Chancellor role) deliberately stirring poo poo:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2021/03/will-keir-starmer-sack-anneliese-dodds-shadow-chancellor

The article shys away from directly accusing Reeves but I've rarely seen more obvious telegraphing of what's actually going on from an article.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 09:57

willie_dee: Jun 21, 2010; I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Rarity posted:

An account of cops incorrectly arresting someone for the first Bristol protest

Has she made a complaint to the iopc about this? Who ever authorised that based on a photo of a model on someone�s social media needs firing.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:14

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

willie_dee posted:

Has she made a complaint to the iopc about this? Who ever authorised that based on a photo of a model on someone�s social media needs firing.

It was from Facebook, not someone I know directly. If she does complain I'm sure it'll be a case of "mistakes were made, police trying to do their best under stress at a very difficult time, lessons will be learned etc etc etc"

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:16

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Failed Imagineer posted:

Courtesy of the nice people at r/GreenAndPleasant but lol

I thought his fate was to be trapped in pig? Or at least, inhabiting the body of a pig

This is the guy who was terrified of the fact that Corbyn started wearing a tie iirc

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:24

Red Oktober: May 24, 2006; wiggly eyes!

MikeCrotch posted:

This is the guy who was terrified of the fact that Corbyn started wearing a tie iirc

IT SHOWS HE CRAVES POWER.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:29

willie_dee: Jun 21, 2010; I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Miss post

# ? Mar 30, 2021 10:40

a pipe smoking dog: Jan 25, 2010; "haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Failed Imagineer posted:

Courtesy of the nice people at r/GreenAndPleasant but lol

I thought his fate was to be trapped in pig? Or at least, inhabiting the body of a pig

In my opinion wealthy people should be trapped in some sort of phantom zone instead

# ? Mar 30, 2021 11:17

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

It's alright everyone, the focus groups have told Kieth the poors like soccerball. The votes will be rolling in, reclaim the red wall.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1376645320998854658?s=20

# ? Mar 30, 2021 11:42

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
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Hello, dear

yeah those replies aren't very good for him are they

# ? Mar 30, 2021 11:50

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56574557

Report by the police on the police completely exonerates police non-shocker.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 11:57

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

crispix posted:

yeah those replies aren't very good for him are they

https://twitter.com/bodman_mike/status/1376802394143608832?s=19

Keith is a very good boy who's earned his dinner egg

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:18

mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

willie_dee posted:

Has she made a complaint to the iopc about this? Who ever authorised that based on a photo of a model on someone�s social media needs firing.

as if the IOPC is fit for any purpose other than clearing cops of wrongdoing

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:28

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Poor delivery, unwilling to run with the ball and has a habit of being miles off target, I don't rate the lad

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:29

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Dead Goon posted:

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1376645320998854658?s=20

Not pictured: the downed protestor he's giving a good kicking to.

That top looks suspiciously ref though. Even in footmans he has to be the cop!

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:33

No Dignity: Oct 15, 2007

Failed Imagineer posted:

Keith is a very good boy who's earned his dinner egg

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer incompetence to competence.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefer this country to be much poorer rather than a country that believes in shared prosperity for all

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers to look inward rather than outward at the world.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a large part of the British media are very deeply compliant with this government.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country preferred to believe the poisoned nefarious narratives about Jeremy Corbyn rather than hear about good old Boris and what he is up to.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers public services to be cut and taxes to be low rather than make sure all our public services are well funded.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers flags, populism and individualism rather than a country that is fairer for all in society.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer oven ready deals rather then trade deals with our former biggest trade partner.

For Christ sake your enemy is not Keir Starmer but those that are in power now.

Get behind him rather than repeatedly criticise him and you might be surprised.

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Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Comment Is insanely Free

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:38

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