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Speaking of the valve economy poo poo, Idle thumbs, one of the best game podcasts to ever exist, read a bunch of my emails about the tfw, dota, and csgo economies. The poo poo I experienced alone was insane, and that pales in comparison to the rampant fraud, theft, scamming and pure callousness and cruelty that occurred during my time trading. I eventually had a nervous breakdown because of just how loving evil some people could be when it came to that poo poo, and seeing more and more people I knew and associated with get exposed for sharking (tricking often literal children into trading an extremely valuable item they might have found for a handful of proverbial beans), eventually I was like "gently caress ALL of this" and got out of that poo poo entirely. If you've not seen or heard much of the whole valve economy poo poo, you may find it amusing or at least fascinating, even if it's a bit out of date now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF52sL2wi1c&hd=1
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Mar 30, 2021 05:52
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Somehow even the deepest I got into the lovely TF2 trading "community" I think the worst I ever did was get a Bill's Hat off a guy for a yellow painted Reggaelator when it was a pretty new hat, the guy seemed to know he was 'trading down' or whatever too, he just wanted some good rear end braids for Demoman, so I can't even say I feel that bad about it.
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Mar 30, 2021 06:06
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thetoughestbean posted:so does anybody know why Gita Jackson, former Kotaku employee, is getting harassed on twitter? Something to do with Cecilia D'Anastasio? there are allegations, from a victim, that Cecilia and the Kotaku editorial staff did not behave ethically in regards to reporting her story of sexual assault. the allegations seemed legitimate. how that relates to gita? well, I'm guessing it's some transitive property, "she is friends with the bad person" boilover. Captain Invictus posted:Speaking of the valve economy poo poo, Idle thumbs, one of the best game podcasts to ever exist, read a bunch of my emails about the tfw, dota, and csgo economies. The poo poo I experienced alone was insane, and that pales in comparison to the rampant fraud, theft, scamming and pure callousness and cruelty that occurred during my time trading. I eventually had a nervous breakdown because of just how loving evil some people could be when it came to that poo poo, and seeing more and more people I knew and associated with get exposed for sharking (tricking often literal children into trading an extremely valuable item they might have found for a handful of proverbial beans), eventually I was like "gently caress ALL of this" and got out of that poo poo entirely. I recently realized I had some ok items and remembered your name as someone who would help me out with getting rid of them....I'm really glad I didn't bug you! I can only imagine what you went through, and hope you are doing better now that you've excited that world.
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Mar 30, 2021 06:17
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Captain Invictus posted:Speaking of the valve economy poo poo, Idle thumbs, one of the best game podcasts to ever exist, read a bunch of my emails about the tfw, dota, and csgo economies. The poo poo I experienced alone was insane, and that pales in comparison to the rampant fraud, theft, scamming and pure callousness and cruelty that occurred during my time trading. I eventually had a nervous breakdown because of just how loving evil some people could be when it came to that poo poo, and seeing more and more people I knew and associated with get exposed for sharking (tricking often literal children into trading an extremely valuable item they might have found for a handful of proverbial beans), eventually I was like "gently caress ALL of this" and got out of that poo poo entirely. yeah, way back when, i hustled during the summer when i was 18 and traded tf2 hats like crazy. at one point i was shooting the poo poo with someone else who did the same thing and we were trading tips. he told me a great way to make money was to run the inventory checking tool on people with low hours in tf2 and try to buy unusual hats from them for dirt cheap it was at that point that i realized i may not have appreciated what i was getting into
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Mar 30, 2021 06:35
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I still help folks when I can but I don't do it as an entire secondary job like I used to. I'm super out of touch with what's worth a drat these days, but it's more that the nervous breakdown was just seeing people I thought as online friends being exposed as manipulative, greedy bastards over and over and over again. Like chat logs that are just straight up lying to people to convince them to trade a thing worth hundreds/thousands for a regular weapon (worthless) or some poo poo. I vividly remember joining a trade server where the owner(very much not a friend, think his name was jiggly or something), who clearly sounded at least 50 and audibly morbidly obese, coaxed literal children in the voice chat on the server into giving him stuff for nothing, or "server perks". Basically came across like a child kidnapper with the way he spoke to what were clearly for real young kids, it was real real bad and I can only imagine one of many such examples
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Mar 30, 2021 06:37
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A big flaming stink posted:yeah, way back when, i hustled during the summer when i was 18 and traded tf2 hats like crazy. at one point i was shooting the poo poo with someone else who did the same thing and we were trading tips. he told me a great way to make money was to run the inventory checking tool on people with low hours in tf2 and try to buy unusual hats from them for dirt cheap Hell we've had some terrible goons post about getting stuff for nothing, there has absolutely been posts during the heyday of that poo poo on this site that amounted to "there's no rule saying I cant/I'm not breaking the law" which if this poo poo was regulated, like it should be, the stuff they were doing would absolutely be fraud.
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Mar 30, 2021 06:49
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In the end, the economy should die, all the stuff should be free or buyable at set prices, and people who procedd to whine about their unique look should be shot.
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Mar 30, 2021 07:36
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Ceterum censeo Twitterinem delendam esse.
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Mar 30, 2021 08:18
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Famethrowa posted:there are allegations, from a victim, that Cecilia and the Kotaku editorial staff did not behave ethically in regards to reporting her story of sexual assault. the allegations seemed legitimate. nah gita made some annoyingly handwringy 'journalism is complicated there are Reasons that the victim's wishes aren't being complied with' tweets like shes obviously not responsible for the original incident and im sure there are people taking their backlash too far but she also couldve just, not said anything edit: https://twitter.com/xoxogossipgita/status/1375133079929507850 https://twitter.com/xoxogossipgita/status/1375504863719723018 okay i didnt see that very last tweet, im glad she said that much at least but i cant really blame people for taking her original statement the wrong way considering like every games journalist circled their wagons there
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Mar 30, 2021 08:58
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SteelMentor posted:Man I'm used to my identity being used as a football in political spheres, but being used as one in a pedantic nerd wiki slapfight hits differently. Their page on Kiss Players is one of the funniest things I have ever seen because it was very much them just throwing their hands and up and not even understanding the gently caress was happening anymore.
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Mar 30, 2021 09:17
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Testekill posted:Their page on Kiss Players is one of the funniest things I have ever seen because it was very much them just throwing their hands and up and not even understanding the gently caress was happening anymore. I'm of two minds on TFWiki sometimes because on the one hand I might want to look up an accurate and serious summary of things that happen in various incarnations of Transformers. But on the other hand, it's Transfromers and TFWiki treats it with the weight it deserves.
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Mar 30, 2021 09:43
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tfwiki has wonderful goofy pages, stuff like Dull Surprise is great "A range of emotions from horror and despair to fury and triumph is here summed up by a single, slack-jawed facial expression. Hey, even Optimus Prime can do it with his faceplate!"  Testekill posted:Their page on Kiss Players is one of the funniest things I have ever seen because it was very much them just throwing their hands and up and not even understanding the gently caress was happening anymore. 
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Mar 30, 2021 09:51
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dmboogie posted:okay i didnt see that very last tweet, im glad she said that much at least but i cant really blame people for taking her original statement the wrong way considering like every games journalist circled their wagons there basically it was a combination of people who, like dmboogie, didn't actually read the whole thread, and the fact that weird nerds are literally always trying to crawl up Gitas rear end for some reason (the reason is racism, sexism, or usually both) follow Gita Jackson and you'll see just the most disingenuous poo poo imaginable constantly! Testekill posted:Their page on Kiss Players is one of the funniest things I have ever seen because it was very much them just throwing their hands and up and not even understanding the gently caress was happening anymore. tfwiki posted:Reactions ran the gamut from outright disgust to comedic derision, with most fans agreeing that the transformation of a children's toyline into borderline pedophilia was a "bad thing". egg tats fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Mar 30, 2021 10:34
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Captain Invictus posted:tfwiki has wonderful goofy pages, stuff like Dull Surprise is great Where I come from we call that the "Pat Lee Special".
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Mar 30, 2021 11:03
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It seems to me as though Gita Jackson gets put in a completely unwinnable situation. I mean, I'm sure she had tons of people asking her for some kind of comment about this. So you comment, because to not comment may as well be to say that you think the person involved deserves it, but then no matter how carefully you word it you just get piled on anyway. Even though beyond working/having worked at Kotaku she has basically no connection to the situation and no power to change it.
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Mar 30, 2021 11:11
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Long story short is that Gita was explaining why the situation is what it is and why otherwise principled journalists would form up in a defensive line over an article that causes harm to its subject because of a catch-22, and people mistook that for endorsement of the decision rather than explanation of what is going into it.
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Mar 30, 2021 11:40
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CYBEReris posted:Long story short is that Gita was explaining why the situation is what it is and why otherwise principled journalists would form up in a defensive line over an article that causes harm to its subject because of a catch-22, and people mistook that for endorsement of the decision rather than explanation of what is going into it. and they are still mistaking it! Gita said the article should go down and the replies are full of people thinking she said the opposite!
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Mar 30, 2021 12:05
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah if you can get past the cringy/edgy poo poo. it actually explains alot of the lore and mechanics in plain speech. the issue with other wikis is you just end up in wiki tunnel trying to get a basic outline of events or characters and half the stuff is probably not even true. plus i like alot of the dumb 40k meme like Papa smurf, robot girlyman, etc. Honestly, that entire site was the bane of my existence as a game store wage slave. For all the informal information, there's also a tone of just straight up made up poo poo swimming around there. Lorewise, rules wise, in general. I could always tell when a new player had read it because they'd spout off the same dead memes, bad tactical advise and what have you without fail. I could not put enough venom in my tone telling my regulars to stop recommending the wiki that regularly plastered stolen porn all over pages to teenagers wanting to know what a T'au was.
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Mar 30, 2021 12:39
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That's extremely Twitter, yes. And now for something completely different: Dslyecxi, who usually just uploads videos of himself playing Arma, has begun making commentary and reviews of Arma operations. Specifically, things going horribly wrong during those ops. I won't ever play with such a group, but I find them fascinating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xicZ-Gs89Ps
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Mar 30, 2021 12:42
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JordanKai posted:Where I come from we call that the "Pat Lee Special". *Inexplicably appears to be dancing* There are a lot of crappy people in comics as in any industry, but Pat Lee is really a cut above. Or below.
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Mar 30, 2021 13:24
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I'm honestly looking forward to tomorrow's RetroPals stream because they're going to do ZX ports of arcade titles, and usually the US response to ZX Spectrum titles is "... wow, you euros sure put up with a lot of garbage" and as Someone of That Time™ and an Euro© I'm sometimes inclined to agree. Them usually being way nicer is going to be a treat.
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Mar 30, 2021 13:31
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I'll say this about 1d4chan, it's cringey as hell but is also a weirdly very good resource for some niche games like Team Yankee. I enjoyed their page on Ollanius Pius because it poo poo all over the dumbest retcon in any media I've ever seen.
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Mar 30, 2021 14:20
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imo (i read up on the gita/nathalie stuff just now) gita saying that "the specific article sucks and should be taken down" and "editing articles is much harder than it looks and here's why" are both good things to talk about separately, but putting those together in a very long thread means that it's just kind of confusing and subtweety about the specific, v serious details personally it would have been better to just go "yeah the article in particular sucks and should be removed" only (instead of putting it near the bottom of the long thread) and then talk about the general process of editing articles in a few months, but i guess u can't put that genie back? the whole thing kinda sucks tho cause there's a ton of harassment and abuse flying around at everyone 
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Mar 30, 2021 18:35
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So what exactly is keeping Wookiepedia from putting someone's deadname in parentheses and a "Formerly known as" and using their real name from then on out if they need to worry about authorship consistency or whatever
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Mar 30, 2021 18:44
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:So what exactly is keeping Wookiepedia from putting someone's deadname in parentheses and a "Formerly known as" and using their real name from then on out if they need to worry about authorship consistency or whatever Bigotry
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Mar 30, 2021 18:48
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:So what exactly is keeping Wookiepedia from putting someone's deadname in parentheses and a "Formerly known as" and using their real name from then on out if they need to worry about authorship consistency or whatever weird sadbrain chud bigotry and probably inflated self importance. SteelMentor posted:Honestly, that entire site was the bane of my existence as a game store wage slave. For all the informal information, there's also a tone of just straight up made up poo poo swimming around there. Lorewise, rules wise, in general. I could always tell when a new player had read it because they'd spout off the same dead memes, bad tactical advise and what have you without fail. yeah, thats understandable Groovelord Neato posted:I enjoyed their page on Ollanius Pius because it poo poo all over the dumbest retcon in any media I've ever seen. i liked angeron and lorgar pages. Angeron because it made me read that novel on him thats actually legit pretty good or at least way better then you would expect about a giant mentality disabled man with nails in his brain. .
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Mar 30, 2021 18:58
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Booky posted:personally it would have been better to just go "yeah the article in particular sucks and should be removed" only (instead of putting it near the bottom of the long thread) and then talk about the general process of editing articles in a few months, but i guess u can't put that genie back? the whole thing kinda sucks tho cause there's a ton of harassment and abuse flying around at everyone The last tweets that actually say that were also made a day later if you check the dates, which meant that people who read it when it was fresh had a thread that came of differently. If you are talking about something this sensitive, starting off by clarifying your position is probably better then waiting a day because you can off like you were defending something you don't agree with.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:00
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the wookiepedia deadnaming sucks rear end!! good on the TF wiki for supporting the editor, though. aaaagh theres a lot of terrible wiki editors out there... like this one admin on the megaten wiki who was real poo poo towards a (then thought to be trans) character in one of the dancing games a few years back and then yelled about the staff's "liberal bias" censoring them when told to knock it off (last i checked, they're still an admin too)  Hel posted:The last tweets that actually say that were also made a day later if you check the dates, which meant that people who read it when it was fresh had a thread that came of differently. it was??  yeesh, no wonder it went over like a lead balloon... yeah, i agree with you on the clarification part (and i guess it's cause i don't often make long threads but i'm struggling to see how doing a very long thread thats vaguely subtweety about a serious issue is a good idea when it could just be one tweet that's clear cut and to the point)
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Mar 30, 2021 19:05
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What a pathetic life someone must live if all the power they have in the world is over a Star Wars fan wiki.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:16
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Nothing will ever top the Silent Hill wiki circumcision guy. WHO CHOP MY DICK
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Mar 30, 2021 19:16
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Hel posted:The last tweets that actually say that were also made a day later if you check the dates, which meant that people who read it when it was fresh had a thread that came of differently. The Twitter Principle: if someone can interpret your tweet in the most uncharitable way possible to get their shouting in, that will happen.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:22
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The fact that the victim has been asking for anyone to speak to them daily for well over a year now while the people directly involved got constant praise from their peers probably didn't help the response to someome finally chiming in with "well, things are very hard" while still not directly acknowledging the actual person.
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Mar 30, 2021 19:30
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Errant Signal - Gaming In The Quarantine Years https://youtu.be/ULZquSKovR0
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Mar 30, 2021 20:03
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Some time this winter after Elliot Page came out as transgender, I came across a movie starring him while channel surfing. My cable provider’s info screen didn’t use his dead name, and I thought it was nice how it was resolved. I should have known there’d be idiot assholes waiting to stir up poo poo over this 
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Mar 30, 2021 20:12
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Dr Christmas posted:Some time this winter after Elliot Page came out as transgender, I came across a movie starring him while channel surfing. My cable provider’s info screen didn’t use his dead name, and I thought it was nice how it was resolved. I should have known there’d be idiot assholes waiting to stir up poo poo over this I'm pretty sure like 5 minutes after the press release Neflix had already changed all the credits for Umbrella Academy.
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Mar 30, 2021 21:32
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No.1 Special posted:Errant Signal - Gaming In The Quarantine Years The mention of slack notifications going off after work and gaming in the same room as working started a series of "what are you doing nooooo" for me.
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Mar 30, 2021 23:03
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hahaha buddy, I do my work on my gaming pc. and I am hosed.
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Mar 30, 2021 23:10
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Please please PLEASE tell me that's a riff on "Gaming in the Clinton Years"
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Mar 30, 2021 23:12
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Writing On Games talks about the "walking simulator" hidden inside Fight Simulator 2020: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulVfzB2tiMU
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Mar 30, 2021 23:23
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No.1 Special posted:Errant Signal - Gaming In The Quarantine Years  Antigravitas posted:The mention of slack notifications going off after work and gaming in the same room as working started a series of "what are you doing nooooo" for me. I don't have two computers and desks, but I do have one work machine and one home machine at the SAME desk and I flip some monitors to different inputs at different times of day.
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