UKMT March 2021 - Two Flags One Pole - The Something Awful Forums

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > UKMT March 2021 - Two Flags One Pole

«‹›170 »

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

Some of those points aren't completly stupid. It's just they didn't apply to Corbyn.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:40

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 23, 2024 11:30

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

multijoe posted:

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer incompetence to competence.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefer this country to be much poorer rather than a country that believes in shared prosperity for all

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers to look inward rather than outward at the world.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a large part of the British media are very deeply compliant with this government.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country preferred to believe the poisoned nefarious narratives about Jeremy Corbyn rather than hear about good old Boris and what he is up to.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers public services to be cut and taxes to be low rather than make sure all our public services are well funded.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers flags, populism and individualism rather than a country that is fairer for all in society.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer oven ready deals rather then trade deals with our former biggest trade partner.

For Christ sake your enemy is not Keir Starmer but those that are in power now.

Get behind him rather than repeatedly criticise him and you might be surprised.

[x]

Source your quotes

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:44

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Rarity posted:

Source your quotes

He did?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:47

No Dignity: Oct 15, 2007

Regarde Aduck posted:

Some of those points aren't completly stupid. It's just they didn't apply to Corbyn.

I'm not gonna lie I'm mostly just here for spite at this point and after years of smug Any Other Leader posts and then endless gloating about Finally, a Real Opposition it's incredibly cathartic to see Starmer supporters eat poo poo in exactly the same way as we did with seemingly zero self-awareness about the predicament they find themselves in

Failed Imagineer posted:

He did?

God you just can't please some people

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:48

Inexplicable Humblebrag: Sep 20, 2003

Failed Imagineer posted:

Comment Is insanely Free

freer starmer

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:49

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

Guardian comments are all made by the worst kind of Boomers: Boomers who've deluded themselves into thinking that they're 'progressive'.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:49

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Failed Imagineer posted:

He did?

Oh it just looked like it was linking to the main article :sweatdrop:

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:54

Isomermaid: Dec 3, 2019; Swish swish, like a fish

multijoe posted:

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer incompetence to competence.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefer this country to be much poorer rather than a country that believes in shared prosperity for all

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers to look inward rather than outward at the world.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a large part of the British media are very deeply compliant with this government.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country preferred to believe the poisoned nefarious narratives about Jeremy Corbyn rather than hear about good old Boris and what he is up to.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers public services to be cut and taxes to be low rather than make sure all our public services are well funded.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers flags, populism and individualism rather than a country that is fairer for all in society.

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer oven ready deals rather then trade deals with our former biggest trade partner.

For Christ sake your enemy is not Keir Starmer but those that are in power now.

Get behind him rather than repeatedly criticise him and you might be surprised.

[x]

"Keir Starmer: because it's not his fault you're gullible idiots" is a powerful campaign slogan, NGL.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:57

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Rarity posted:

Oh it just looked like it was linking to the main article

Tbf I was also hovering over the "post lmao" button , but just in time I realised the lmaos would have been at my expense

# ? Mar 30, 2021 12:58

knox_harrington: Feb 18, 2011; Running no point.

I guess this is the thing, it turns out the UK is mostly populated by cunts, so what sort of 2 party system is possible apart from very-right-wing and centre-right?

Or has the window recently jumped further right? Doesn't feel like it tbh.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:00

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

The current system is entrenched, worldwide, and self-perpetuating. Take out only a portion, and it will rebuild itself from the rest, or generate itself from new recruits. It's not just the political class(Which outsources everything including 'thinking'), it's also the businesses tied to them(Who are also outsourcing everything). You could throw out the entire political class tomorrow, both current and 'heirs' in place, and within a few months any new bunch would be as bad as the old ones.

What the hell do you even do about that?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:14

sinky: Feb 22, 2011; Slippery Tilde

quote:

A school claims to have almost eliminated bullying by banning games like football at break times.
Instead, students at Hackney New School participate in supervised quizzes, poetry recitals and other activities, including chess and choir clubs.

Pupils have memorised poems Ozymandias and The Charge of the Light Brigade and recite them as they line up for lessons or when they are eating lunch, Ms Whelan said.
x

Sounds like it's less to do with the ban on games and more that the kids don't actually get a break and have a teacher watching them in a classroom 100% of the time.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:17

namesake: Jun 19, 2006; "When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Bloodly posted:

The current system is entrenched, worldwide, and self-perpetuating. Take out only a portion, and it will rebuild itself from the rest, or generate itself from new recruits. It's not just the political class(Which outsources everything including 'thinking'), it's also the businesses tied to them(Who are also outsourcing everything). You could throw out the entire political class tomorrow, both current and 'heirs' in place, and within a few months any new bunch would be as bad as the old ones.

What the hell do you even do about that?

Initiate a socialist revolution which robs the ruling class of their economic and political power and replaces it with working class power with structures that entrench themselves just as hard as the capitalist ones did.

It's more likely to happen than voting your way to socialism.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:18

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

sinky posted:

Sounds like it's less to do with the ban on games and more that the kids don't actually get a break and have a teacher watching them in a classroom 100% of the time.

So is that one of those free schools then?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:25

Borrovan: Aug 15, 2013; IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY

multijoe posted:

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of this country prefers flags, populism and individualism rather than a country that is fairer for all in society.

This is why Keir Starmer is loving the flag, it's what the people want

multijoe posted:

Is it Keir Starmer's fault that a considerable part of the public prefer incompetence to competence.

This is why Keir Starmer is loving the Labour Party, it's what the people want

Unrelated: I got a bunch of electoral poo poo today. What are those of you who haven't quit Labour/Momentum yet voting in the Policy Primary? I'm leaning towards "power for renters" out of ~pragmatism~, but I really like "four day week" (I really like a lot of them, actually)

I'm also scratching my head a lot about the Senedd election. Plaid are asking for my second vote, because Labour always clean up on the constituencies so the D'Hondt method means they've got no chance on the regional vote, which is instead split between Plaid, Tories & open fascists. I'd like to give Starmer a bruising, but I'd also like there to not be Tories or open fascists in the Senedd, and I'm not comfortable giving my vote to transphobes. There's literally no left party on the slate to throw a protest vote to though (and the other welshnat party is even more transphobic). I'm thinking maybe protest vote for Greens on the constituency list, and tactical vote for Plaid to keep the fash out on the regional?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:29

Spangly A: May 14, 2009; God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

forkboy84 posted:

So is that one of those free schools then?

there's no mention of unqualified teachers doing poo poo to kids that would be a massive nono if done to POWs, so if its a free school its an improvement

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:34

peanut-: Feb 17, 2004; Fun Shoe

sinky posted:

Sounds like it's less to do with the ban on games and more that the kids don't actually get a break and have a teacher watching them in a classroom 100% of the time.

It's probably bollocks and they're just trying to get the OFSTED "inadequate" verdict and the murder of a student to stop being the top results when you search for the school.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:40

Bobstar: Feb 8, 2006; KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Borrovan posted:

"power for renters"

Kieth: "they got this all screwed up"

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:52

Apraxin: Feb 22, 2006; General-Admiral

https://twitter.com/VikramDodd/status/1376842676256006145

quote:

A report on the Metropolitan police�s handling of a vigil for Sarah Everard has concluded that officers acted appropriately.

The report from the official policing inspectorate was ordered by the home secretary, Priti Patel, after widespread outrage at the scenes of officers grappling with mourners at the vigil on Clapham Common, south London, on Saturday 13 March. Today the report from Her Majesty�s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire and Rescue Services (HMICFRS) was published. It concluded: �The Metropolitan police acted appropriately at the vigil held in memory of Sarah Everard on Clapham Common, a new inspection has found.�

The vigil happened with Covid restrictions in place. The report clears police of being heavy-handed and says inspectors �found that the Metropolitan police was justified in adopting the view that the risks of transmitting Covid-19 at the vigil were too great to ignore when planning for and policing the event�.

�After reviewing hundreds of documents, body-worn video from police officers at the vigil and other media, and conducting interviews with the police, vigil organisers and politicians, the inspectorate found that: police officers at the vigil did their best to peacefully disperse the crowd; police officers remained calm and professional when subjected to abuse; and police officers did not act inappropriately or in a heavy-handed manner.�

The report appears to be a significant if not total vindication of police actions at the vigil. It does say there was �insufficient communication between police commanders about changing events on the ground�.

The report appears to rebuke critics, especially those in �positions of responsibility�. Matt Parr, Her Majesty�s inspector of constabulary, who led the inspection team, said: �Condemnation of the Met�s actions within mere hours of the vigil � including from people in positions of responsibility � was unwarranted, showed a lack of respect for public servants facing a complex situation, and undermined public confidence in policing based on very limited evidence.

The report says while most at the vigil were peaceful, a small minority were hostile to officers: �The peaceful and reasonable intent of the many was overshadowed by the malign actions of a few. Although not remotely comparable with the violence of some protests � including some in the days since the Clapham Common vigil � there was still a degree of aggression, rancour and animosity directed towards officers.�

Lol, I'm so angry.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 13:59

a pipe smoking dog: Jan 25, 2010; "haha, dogs can't smoke!"

sinky posted:

Sounds like it's less to do with the ban on games and more that the kids don't actually get a break and have a teacher watching them in a classroom 100% of the time.

Yeah not letting kids play outside at all sounds like a great way to keep them all fit and healthy.

Look forward to hearing that they've all got rickets from a lack of exposure to sunlight next.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:05

peanut-: Feb 17, 2004; Fun Shoe

This is off their last OFSTED report, if they've gone from this to placid poetry recitals in a year of being open I'd be fairly surprised.

quote:

- Leaders and governors have failed to arrest the school�s decline. None of the issues raised by Ofsted during the short inspection in June 2018 have been tackled effectively.

- The school does not have an effective safeguarding culture. Record-keeping is weak, and concerns are not dealt with in a timely way. Staff have insufficient understanding of how to manage difficult behaviour.

- Frequent changes in leadership and teaching have unsettled staff and pupils. The school closed for three days at the end of June 2019 because of concerns about behaviour and safety. Staff were unable to control the situation and external intervention was needed.

- Pupils� personal development is inadequate. Not enough opportunities are given for personal, social, health and economic education. Careers guidance is inadequate. Pupils and parents have well-founded concerns about bullying. The school environment does not promote pupils� well-being.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:14

Reveilled: Apr 19, 2007; Take up your rifles

Makes sense to me, countless philosophers throughout history have determined that people are happiest when they just sit around thinking all day, and here is the absolute, definitely not fabricated, 100%-no-coverup proof of that fact. Score 1 for Plato and Big T. More

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:21

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Necrothatcher posted:

Just listened to that David Lammy call on LBC and gently caress that's depressing.

Are the Nazis in this country getting more numerous or louder/more confident? Or both?

As folk have said fascism is being amplified and sold as a product by at least half the media companies as a new flavour of the standard right wing libertarianism.

As the UK decays politically there's gonna be popular outbursts of anger and attempts to change things, usually from the left or the right.

The whole system is set up to make absolute sure that whenever this movement surges from the left its smothered as quickly as possible but when it comes from the right that's probably fine what could go wrong. Particularly when the economic populist stuff can be excised leaving only the racist pro statue social stuff which the wealthy don't care about.

It's VERY much playing with fire but the UK consistently plays with fire cause a fire could never happen here.

We do have a majority government and most of the media throwing red meat to the english fascists constantly, while to be left wing is to be a discredited racist.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:25

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Communist Thoughts posted:

It's VERY much playing with fire but the UK consistently plays with fire cause a fire could never happen here.

(Please ignore the fire that happened here a few years ago)

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:31

Miftan: Mar 31, 2012; Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Communist Thoughts posted:

It's VERY much playing with fire but the UK consistently plays with fire cause a fire could never happen here.

-Probably some baker, London, 1665.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:39

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Reveilled posted:

Makes sense to me, countless philosophers throughout history have determined that people are happiest when they just sit around thinking all day, and here is the absolute, definitely not fabricated, 100%-no-coverup proof of that fact. Score 1 for Plato and Big T. More

That's true of people who think, but there are a lot of people who've never had to have a single thought of their own who are being driven insane in lockdown.

I hate that we're all going to end up getting dragged back to meanigless bullshit busy work just so that these people can continue to never have to think about anything more meaningful than what channel to watch.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:39

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Spangly A posted:

there's no mention of unqualified teachers doing poo poo to kids that would be a massive nono if done to POWs, so if its a free school its an improvement

THEY WERE 60 dENIER TIGHTS AND SHE�S 5 FOOT TALL, WHAT DO YOU WANT THE KID TO WEAR SACKCLOTH AND ASHES?!?

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:41

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Rarity posted:

(Please ignore the fire that happened here a few years ago)

It's telling how easily the media shrugged off the assassination of a left wing mp by a fascist, and then just tried to get Corbyn killed his whole time as leader.

If the left had assassinated any mps Corbyn probably would have won imo

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:41

Oh dear me: Aug 14, 2012; I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Borrovan posted:

Unrelated: I got a bunch of electoral poo poo today. What are those of you who haven't quit Labour/Momentum yet voting in the Policy Primary? I'm leaning towards "power for renters" out of ~pragmatism~, but I really like "four day week" (I really like a lot of them, actually)

I like nearly all of them, but I prioritized narrower motions that propose a specific thing, making my intent clear, and political fudging harder. Can't remember my final order, but renter rights, the 4-day week, and UBI were definitely near the top.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:46

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Communist Thoughts posted:

It's telling how easily the media shrugged off the assassination of a left wing mp by a fascist, and then just tried to get Corbyn killed his whole time as leader.

If the left had assassinated any mps Corbyn probably would have won imo

Remember the attempted attempt on Corbyn's life, outside of a Mosque IIRC?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/30/finsbury-park-attack-darren-osborne-kill-jeremy-corbyn

Like sometimes I'm convinced I made it up because no way could that be memory holed but Haha hahaha nope

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Mar 30, 2021

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:51

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

That was just some jovial banter.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:52

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

learnincurve posted:

THEY WERE 60 dENIER TIGHTS AND SHE’S 5 FOOT TALL, WHAT DO YOU WANT THE KID TO WEAR SACKCLOTH AND ASHES?!?

Honestly one of the main reasons I do not have kids is because I don't think I could keep my poo poo together when they went through school.

I am constantly astounded by stories of rampant victim blaming like this, where middle aged men demand that their pedo urges should not be inflamed by the children supposedly under their care.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:53

Failed Imagineer: Sep 22, 2018

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Honestly one of the main reasons I do not have kids is because I don't think I could keep my poo poo together when they went through school.

I am constantly astounded by stories of rampant victim blaming like this, where middle aged men demand that their pedo urges should not be inflamed by the children supposedly under their care.

Rod Liddle is the patron saint of these people. Liddle Britain

# ? Mar 30, 2021 14:56

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

In other news:

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1376848636269768704?s=19

From the Daily Politik:

quote:

Johnson’s Chief Medical Advisor, and advocate of the ‘herd immunity’ strategy, Patrick Vallance, was GSK’s President of research and development, before he left last year to become the prime minister’s Chief Medical Advisor.

He retains 43,111 shares in GSK, currently worth over £600,000, which are set to skyrocket with this huge government contract.

Supporting the insane theory of herd immunity suddenly makes sense, when you stand to profit enormously from the development of a vaccine.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:05

learnincurve: May 15, 2014; Smoosh

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Honestly one of the main reasons I do not have kids is because I don't think I could keep my poo poo together when they went through school.

I am constantly astounded by stories of rampant victim blaming like this, where middle aged men demand that their pedo urges should not be inflamed by the children supposedly under their care.

This is a woman and she only picks the pretty girls to bully, like the other day her boss, also a woman, complimented a lass on her dress and asked where she got it. The lass walks round the corner to be yelled at by mean teacher and told �BOSS TEACHER WONT THINK IT�S APPROPRIATE�

Minicurve is leaving the school to restart her A level year (taking two A levels with her + a 2 A level equivalent engineering qualification) basically because this is a free way of getting MOAR A levels (she has all the brains I lack) She was accepted in January and they have known since then and I can see the fight starting over when she leaves already. Like gently caress is she staying on after the coursework final submission date and the year 11s and 13s have left just for their precious attendance records.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:07

peanut-: Feb 17, 2004; Fun Shoe

That seems fairly daft.

If Cummings was going to Barnard Castle to arrange domestic production of a COVID vaccine they would have said that's why he went, because it's a good reason to go.

The Barnard's Castle facility is owned by GSK, who at the time were trying to make their own vaccine so it's fairly unlikely they were secretly contracting to bottle the as-yet-undeveloped Novavax one.

Also why would any of the senior executives involved feel the need to actually travel to a small manufacturing facility in the middle of nowhere? They have phones.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 15:13

1965917: Oct 4, 2005

Guy in shops just now - "...Even if you get the jab its still a �5000 fine if you drink in pubs, so whats the point in getting it?"

I'm glad to see the governments message is getting through

# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:05

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

In other news:

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1376848636269768704?s=19

From the Daily Politik:

If your article contains the phrase "insane theory of herd immunity" it's time to take a long walk into the woods with a shotgun and not come back imo

# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:31

No Dignity: Oct 15, 2007

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

If your article contains the phrase "insane theory of herd immunity" it's time to take a long walk into the woods with a shotgun and not come back imo

Herd immunity as presented by Cummings last year (I.e. through mass exposure to the virus and not from mass vaccinations) was completely insane, would have causes hundreds of thousands of deaths in the first wave and given what we've seen from virus mutations in the last year wouldn't have even worked on its own terms

# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:45

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? May 23, 2024 11:30

Pistol_Pete: Sep 15, 2007; Oven Wrangler

Yeah, there's a reason no country with an age demographic similar to ours has sat back and let the virus rip through the population: it would have been absolute carnage.

# ? Mar 30, 2021 16:46

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > UKMT March 2021 - Two Flags One Pole

«‹›170 »