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Anyway, I think the DPP knows the consequences of what independence will mean and why everything is about pushing it to the edge but not going over it.
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Mainland can win it with a blcocade but Beijing is not going to do it only because 1 Beijing want to show Taiwanese people it can win the war convincingly and 2 it wants to show the world it can take over the island with high tech modern weapons. Look, just sit and see how many 075 China will build, you don't have to speculate on what Beijing is planning to do.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 20:32 |
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Military arms race dick-waving is a great power practice that China is indulging in. It remains to be seen if they are also going to indulge in the practice of preemptive war. The latter is costlier than the former.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 20:36 |
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A lot of it depends on how heavy the nationalists are in terms of power, or how nationalistic you feel the chinese government is
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 20:41 |
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I think the PRC is nationalistic, but not suicidally so. Their clear goal is a long range plan to supplant the US and so far it has been generally going to plan. I don't see how some "high tech war" against Taiwan fits into that plan beyond the PRC building its military up. I mean Taiwan is important, but it is really that important compared to all the other projects China has going on?
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 21:03 |
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Ukraine blocks Chinese takeover of jet engine maker on US urging So the biggest problem with China's J-20 aircraft is its engine. The first models are using Russian made engines. The same that the Su-27 use along with the older J-10. These were to be replaced with homemade Xian WS-15, but things haven't panned out with those. So the Shenyang WS-10C is currently being used to the interim. Beijing Skyrizon Aviation acquiring Motor Sich would have been a big boost in that effort, but well read the headline again. H&M shops in China forced to close amid Xinjiang backlash quote:SHANGHAI -- Some H&M outlets in China have been forced by landlords to shutter their doors, while a government official said the Swedish fashion retailer and other foreign brands should refrain from politicizing business decisions, as the backlash continued against the company over its previous comments on forced labor in Xinjiang. As ethnic armies unite against coup, war returns to Myanmar's borderlands The Karen National Union and Kachin Independence Army have resumed attacks against the army. The Arakan Army and other forces are vowing to join the fighting if the military killings do not stop. A joint resistance announcement may come on April 1st. The various ethnic armed factions are estimated to be able to rally 75,000 against the 350,000 of the Myanmar army.
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This meme that combines Chinese state TV WW2 fantasy drama and capitalist I-can't-believe-its-not-anime mobile game is for BrutalistMcDonald. https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/mgf2k2/fire_the_cannon_translated/
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OhFunny posted:Ukraine blocks Chinese takeover of jet engine maker on US urging I just looked at what Motor Sich makes and it is mostly turbofan engines for transport aircraft and helicopters. Obviously, still strategic but I don't think it much do with the J-20. As far as the J-20 goes, I think Beijing is waiting for Izdeliye 30 to finally be finished but that is still a few years away. The Izdeliye 30 would be somewhere between the performance of the engines on a F-22 versus a F-35. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 21:31 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Lol I cannot believe they restarted the civil war
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No idea how trustworthy this source is, but it's a somewhat detailed article on the acquisition from last year. https://www.mei.edu/publications/why-ukraine-secret-weapon-chinas-airpower quote:Motor Sich is the only aeroengine enterprise from the Soviet era still capable of producing an entire jet engine completely on its own. In contrast, most Russian engine firms have lost so many personnel and other assets since the fall of the USSR that they require three or more firms working cooperatively to design and build a single new engine. The argument isn't that they were making the needed engines, but that they could move the organization over to China and turn it into something that can produce the engines needed. Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 23:01 on Mar 30, 2021 |
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Yeah but that personnel doesn’t have experience with making high performance fighter engines in the first place,. I don’t know how it would seriously help them.
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 23:12 |
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https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1376321521120116737?s=20 what's a maritime militia
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 23:31 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1376321521120116737?s=20 beautiful boaters
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 23:40 |
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Probably was referring to this https://twitter.com/ckoettl/status/1375094266767290368?s=20
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# ? Mar 30, 2021 23:53 |
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Does the US think they're all Trojan Horses with PLA super soldiers on board or something, what's the problem?
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Maximo Roboto posted:Taiwan as a "rogue state" looks very different from the actual "rogue states" that great powers have been loving with since the end of the Cold War, from Iraq to Ukraine. Tbf this could change pretty quickly assuming a chinese blockade. Resource starved countries typically become "belligerent" relatively quickly.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 00:21 |
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Ardennes posted:Anyway, I think the DPP knows the consequences of what independence will mean and why everything is about pushing it to the edge but not going over it. I will say that Taiwan has emulated the US in one critical aspect. Centering the foundations of it's liberal democracy on culture war nonsense, in order to distract from the relative impotence of the state itself. Unfortunately this political strategy does not seem to have a good long term prognosis
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 00:26 |
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OhFunny posted:Ukraine blocks Chinese takeover of jet engine maker on US urging i need to get around to listening RWN's episode on myanmar's ethnic militias
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 01:34 |
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I hope China doesn’t go to war with anyone
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 01:35 |
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Not So Fast posted:Does the US think they're all Trojan Horses with PLA super soldiers on board or something, what's the problem? well usually this kind of thing is your bog standard "we're going to violate territorial waters to fish here and you can't catch us"
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1376321521120116737?s=20 Western analysts maintain a position that any and all Chinese fishing vessels are, in part or in whole, manned by Chinese "militiamen", as in trained members of the PLA/PLAN. This allows them to call fishing vessels a "maritime militia", and any presence of such fishing vessels as being a part of a plot to seize territory and/or intrude on a nation's territorial waters. Whereas if a fishing ship from Taiwan or Vietnam enters a disputed area in the South China Sea that might be waved-off as an innocuous thing where you maybe let them off with a warning for crossing some line but the Coast Guard / Navy lets them on their merry way, once a Chinese fishing vessel does it, it's the equivalent of an armed warship, since the assertion is that the fishing ship carries with it a militarized crew. It's similar to how China watchers will say that any Chinese company is necessarily a state-owned or state-controlled company, so that if Huawei is spying on you, that's not just bad on account of Huawei doing it, it's bad because the data gets passed on to Beijing. Or if it's a Chinese construction firm that's developing infrastructure, that's not just bad account of a "debt trap" accusation, it's also bad because it's a state-owned company. Another facet of this sort of thing was when a number of online gambling companies were running their operations out of the Philippines, and accusations flew about how the call center employees were either Chinese spies or members of the PLA.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 01:41 |
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honestly if I got to pick who is spying on me between Google/Apple/facebook/Samsung and the CCP, I’m rolling with Xi
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 01:47 |
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Fishing in disputed water is kind of like what China and India were doing in the disputed Pangong Lake area: each side take turn to patrol the the disputed area to make their own territorial claims but has unwritten understanding to avoid encountering each other. That is, until some other diplomatic issues raise the temperature and the soldiers start pushing each other, and then escalate to bats with barbwire.
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tbh the only thing keeping Taiwan safe right now is TSMC lol
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 02:36 |
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I'll bet SMIC's networks are under constant attack now.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 02:37 |
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what was with the sunflower movement seemed like an op
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Ardennes posted:I think the PRC is nationalistic, but not suicidally so. Their clear goal is a long range plan to supplant the US and so far it has been generally going to plan. I don't see how some "high tech war" against Taiwan fits into that plan beyond the PRC building its military up. Waging an unnecessary preemptive war spilling blood and treasure would be a very U.S. move, symbolically announcing the ascension of a new hegemon. Dreddout posted:Tbf this could change pretty quickly assuming a chinese blockade. Resource starved countries typically become "belligerent" relatively quickly. I was also referring to the high standard of living and level of development. When was the last time such a nation been threatened existentially, Kuwait? And what was anything comparable prior to that, the Iran-Iraq War? World War II?
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xi jinping teaming up on a hip-hop mixtape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C59oy6hUd4A most of these rap videos are not very good, but this kid kills it. and what's interesting to me is that he's inside a history museum ("embedded within history") next to terracotta-style red army soldiers while wearing a shirt from a petroleum engineering academy. and we're going to have an ideological new cold war? what's the U.S. ideology offering him? like... lol. wang huning knows what he's doing BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 15:04 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Anne_MarieBrady/status/1377058749005750272
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https://twitter.com/scottadamssays/status/1376924597128286210?s=21
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the military budget one in particular is lol
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amazing
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they gave us military budget
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Reuters: Database reveals secrets of China's loans to developing nations, says studyquote:DAKAR (Reuters) - The terms of China’s loan deals with developing countries are unusually secretive and require borrowers to prioritise repayment of Chinese state-owned banks ahead of other creditors, a study of a cache of such contracts showed on Wednesday. so despite how nefarious the headline makes it sound like, if you read through the article, what it actually reveals is that China's loan terms are more forgiving towards its debtors, and that it has refused to engage in the kinds of practices that would otherwise gently caress over debtors. anyway, if you look into the Center for Global Development, it was founded by Edward W Scott, who was also founder and director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics. Peterson refers to Pete Peterson, co-founder of the Blackstone Group and an entire media ecosystem designed to promote austerity and budget cuts other co-founders of the CGD include C. Fred Bergsten, who served in Nixon's National Security Council as Kissinger's economics adviser, as well as Nancy Birdsall, former director of policy research at the World Bank the current head of the Board of Directors of the CGD, elected in 2014 and has been serving since, is Lawrence Summers quote:CGD hosts about 200 public and private events a year that draw more than 7,000 participants.[51] Events have featured speakers such as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, President of Nigeria Goodluck Jonathan, economist Paul Romer, UK Secretary of State for International Development Andrew Mitchell, among many others.[52] oh yeah and I did mention CGD makes all contributions over 100k USD public? let's have a look: and that's just cuts from their 2021 data!
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's similar to how China watchers will say that any Chinese company is necessarily a state-owned or state-controlled company, so that if Huawei is spying on you, that's not just bad on account of Huawei doing it, it's bad because the data gets passed on to Beijing. but this part is entirely true. its also true in the west, we just pretend that Google and Facebook are not state controlled so that they are allowed to do censorship
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Rutibex posted:but this part is entirely true. its also true in the west, we just pretend that Google and Facebook are not state controlled so that they are allowed to do censorship “public private partnership” the extra syllables means it is different
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Maximo Roboto posted:
High standards of living are conditional on goods getting in and out of the country, something China will sooner or later be able to prevent taiwan from doing. The closest analogue would probably be the dprk, a relatively well off society suddenly finding itself without a friend in the world (that can import food and energy)
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-poo poo in my pants
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 17:04 |
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These are rough numbers but in 2017 Taiwan exports are ~28.5% china bound, and about 12.7% hong kong bound, which accounts for like 22% of Taiwan's total GDP that year. 20% of Taiwan's imports are from China. USA is only 11% of Taiwan's export economy, and you can imagine in 2021 things are leaning even more heavily toward China. https://www.trade.gov.tw/english/Pages/Detail.aspx?nodeID=94&pid=651991&dl_DateRange=all&txt_SD=&txt_ED=&txt_Keyword=&Pageid=0
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also like 2% of Taiwan's total population lives in Mainland for work reasons
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