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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

That account should have waited 32 minutes to post.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1377589198551670791

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blossommirage
Nov 7, 2012

Happy Opening Day, everybody!

habeasdorkus posted:

That account should have waited 32 minutes to post.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1377589198551670791

Had to double check and make sure this was really Pasan after that Cohen tweet.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Guys!

Guys!

There's actual baseball today!!!!

chilihead
Nov 5, 2010

Is this real life, or is this fantasy?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I'm so loving mad at labor getting paid

That's not what i'm saying, but hey let's enjoy baseball. Go braves!

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

more falafel please posted:

That's what a ++starter at a premium position with above average defense goes for. If you want to make sure he's going to play for your team for a long time, you have to pay him

I am extremely happy that there's no opt outs. I understand why players want them, it's basically all upside and they should get every last penny they can. But as a fan I like knowing there won't be any need for more contract negotiations, and that they're going to be with the club a long time.

Ogmius815 posted:

It's basically the same as the Mets offer accounting for the deferrals.

Lindor's agent doesn't understand present value vs. future value, apparently. Or maybe he does and Lindor was just holding out for "the biggest deal ever for a shortstop" or whatever.

I think Lindor actually lost $40m in NPV from the Mets offer.

The Mets 10/$325m offer was said to contain no deferrals. If the original deal was a flat $32.5m/year, with a 5% discount rate that's a Net Present Value of ~$250m.

This deal is 10/$341m, with a $21m signing bonus and a flat $32m/year - which is really $27m a year since $5m/year is deferred at apparently zero interest. That $50m deferred is to be paid at from 2032-3041. Running that through the same NPV calculator as the original offer has that total coming to ~$210m.

I'm not a math person and there's value in having a steady income past your playing days, but, uh.

e: is there a prediction thread going around or should I make one?

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

chilihead posted:

That's not what i'm saying, but hey let's enjoy baseball. Go braves!

The problem with your analysis is that no one is ever paid according to their value to the bottom line. If they were, most people would make much, much more money than they do. Compensation is determined by what the market will bear. And in the case of professional athletes, the market would bear much higher prices for their services (especially for young players) but for a CBA that intentionally favors veterans, negotiated by a union run by veterans in accord with owners eager to drive down prices.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

chilihead posted:

Baseball stars are ridiculously overpaid but this has always been a touchy subject on this forum. Yes they should all be getting real money when they are young and producing. However that doesn't mean they should be grossly overpaid later on. One or two stars cannot effect a baseball game like in basketball. See, Mike Trout. I think most of the extensions are the fair amount for players. The ones signed buying out their arbitration. Also baseball revenue is all over the place, depending on the team.

TL;DR the highest paid players in baseball are comically over paid. However, if someone can show me how Mike Trout adds tens of millions to the Angels bottom line each year, feel free.

The owners are comically overpaid.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

BigBallChunkyTime posted:

Guys!

Guys!

There's actual baseball today!!!!

No there's not, Sox/Orioles got rained out :sigh:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


howe_sam posted:

No there's not, Sox/Orioles got rained out :sigh:

AL baseball isn't real baseball though

Unlimited substitution is antithetical to baseball.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
It'll be nice to see at least *some* fans at Wrigley today. Playing in front of a bunch of empty chairs is just weird.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


BigBallChunkyTime posted:

It'll be nice to see at least *some* fans at Wrigley today. Playing in front of a bunch of empty chairs is just weird.

You know what's even weirder? Mass death from an airborne respiratory illness.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


The Nats are already eating poo poo due to covid in the active roster, anyone going to a baseball game right now is out of their loving mind.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
It's weird how the Yankees insist on hitting Aaron Hicks 3rd. Whatever, it's not like lineup order matters that much.

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

There's baseball today!

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

BASE

BALL

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


It is so loving cold today for the cubs opener, love that April baseball.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
LOL at the Red Sox and Orioles being rained out. Extremely baseball.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Ban interleague play, ban the DH.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

You know what's even weirder? Mass death from an airborne respiratory illness.

Yes, I understand that, and playing in front of no fans was the right decision. Doesn't mean it wasn't weird though.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

R.D. Mangles posted:

It is so loving cold today for the cubs opener, love that April baseball.

33 degrees, wind blowing in at 16 mph. Hendricks CGSO incoming!

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Prediction Thread posted. I'm 100% confident in all of my predictions.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Ban interleague play, ban the DH, contract the playoffs to just the championships and world series.

TwoHeadedDeer
Nov 24, 2020

I will be made a new creature, one bright day
does anyone here have the mlb.tv all teams thing? does it include all games all season long, including playoffs? because if not, gently caress that

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I only do MLB.tv audio but that's all teams through the World Series.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



DH for everyone. Yes, even you.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Unlimited substitution doesn't belong in baseball.

Catchers are defensive specialists who are usually slow as hell, why don't we have a designated runner for them?

Gerblederp
Dec 4, 2009

It’s another exciting season of listening to PFC complain about the DH endlessly

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I will never stop fighting the Designated Hitler.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


FlamingLiberal posted:

DH for everyone. Yes, even you.

:emptyquote:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Designated Runner for catchers now. There's no reason not to do it. It's boring watching catchers try to run to first. It also opens another spot on the roster so the MLBPA should be on board.

Vertical Lime
Dec 11, 2004

https://twitter.com/buster_espn/status/1377638903126065152?s=21

make your predictable mets jokes now

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Gerblederp posted:

It’s another exciting season of listening to PFC complain about the DH endlessly

only for people who don't have him on ignore :v:

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
on this day of baseball, enjoy the most baseball of baseball players, George Brett, starring in an ad for soap so dripping with sex and masculinity and baseball that you'll need to step outside to cool down afterwards

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I'm going to have to watch Jacob Stallings ground out four times today and that's boring as hell. Designated Runner now.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
gently caress off

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


By the end of his career, Carlton Fisk sounded like a bowl of rice crispies going into a crouch. It's inhumane as hell to make a guy like that run the bases.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


Baseball...is BACK
https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/1377638903126065152?s=20

elentar
Aug 26, 2002

Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.

de Grom-Scherzer nooo

edit: seriously they should have fast-tracked vaccination throughout spring training and the failure to do so will haunt this entire season.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

I'm surprised they took so long to postpone that after the Nats had all those dudes go into protocol yesterday or Tuesday or whenever.

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Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug


Motherfucker.

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