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Son of Rodney posted:Tell me. Well, I assume this is correct. When you feed an animal it'll eventually get full* and refuse to eat. At this point it's 'fed up' and just not interested in eating and will refuse to take any more. So if I'm fed up with Son of Rodney's shitposting it means I've endured as much as I can and just can't handle any more. Fed up. Sorry if this was completely obvious to everyone else but I'm delighted to understand another facet of my idiotic native language. *unless it's a labrador which will eat until it dies because they are lovely animals but dumb as rocks when it comes to gastrointestinal concerns.
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That seems pretty obvious in retrospect so I assume you're correct!
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Toxic coworker who prefers starting feuds to following procedures was in good form this morning. They had sent a request to another dept that included a requested release date of April 5th, so the other team decided to launch a personal attack by... planning to roll this out on April 5th. Well of course Toxicy didn't really mean April 5th and wanted it released immediately without telling anyone, as nobody really reads those dates (yes we do, that's why it's a mandatory part of the form) and instead of admitting an error ranted for ten minutes in a meeting that this other team hates them. Last time they went down this feud path after botching a release they tried to get the nicest person on the other team fired. I wish our management would realize this person is not good to have around and does serious damage to morale, and tell them to knock it off or find another role.
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Apr 1, 2021 16:57
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Apparently there's also a more intense version I've never heard which is "fed up to the back teeth"
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:which was more painful? Absolutely the posts. Salesforce badges are kind of a joke, there's just a lot of them.
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Animal-Mother posted:My boss decided to chew me out today and halfway through his rant I realized, "This is just bullshit. He's just wrong." Instead of arguing my case, which I suspect he would have enjoyed shooting down, I just nodded along and calmly said "Yes sir, I'll fix that, I'll take care of it." I had one boss who liked to yell at me, and eventually I figured out I could neutralize him by yelling back. He'd apologize in his own way later, after he'd calmed down. Sometimes he'd even take me out to lunch!
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Apr 1, 2021 19:08
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A high risk strategy, that.
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True, though in fairness it was a 2-person company (me and him) and I knew he couldn't afford to lose me.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:24
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poisonpill posted:“You need to let me know about this earlier in the process.” I had a boss who had his Outlook organized by name instead of date/unread. I found it to be very good as I sent him an email and called him on the phone if I wanted his input on something, but just sent him an email with no phone call if I was informing him of a screw up or didn’t want him to intervene in something. He had the policy that if something was important they’d call him on the phone.
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El Chupacabras posted:I had a boss who had his Outlook organized by name instead of date/unread. I found it to be very good as I sent him an email and called him on the phone if I wanted his input on something, but just sent him an email with no phone call if I was informing him of a screw up or didn’t want him to intervene in something. Reminds me of training my mom when she got a smart phone: Call if it's an emergency, text if it can wait. My boss has folders in her Outlook for certain employees (I'm one of them). Not sure if this is good or bad. But I doubt that she has a rule that auto-moves emails.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:16
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NapalmWeasel posted:Reminds me of training my mom when she got a smart phone: Call if it's an emergency, text if it can wait. Verbal message if you want everyone to simultaneously hate you and ignore you.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:42
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I have to code my labor on my timesheet down to 15 minute increments but no one can tell me what constitutes what. Most of my job is IT related and have a code for that but then our budget unit sends me 60+ hours of labor codes that I'm supposed to use instead but... like when and where? No one can explain what they want from me. Like so much else, we operate in this swirling game of telephone.
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Apr 1, 2021 21:56
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Sigh... the person in management that organizes all the social events for the company has got the NFT brainworms and convened an hour long meeting today to pitch the concept of NFTs to us. They explained that while proof of stake isn't on the Etherium blockchain YET, it's coming any day now and we shouldn't be worried about the dangers of NFTs and we should start doing them. Sigh.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:05
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Apr 1, 2021 22:11
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I just overheard from the hiring people "I don't seem do be able to find her on any social media platforms, that's a bit suspicious..." You've got a resume. You've interviewed them. You can look up their certs to verify them. You can call their references. You don't need to see their bikini pics from their last trip to the beach to judge them for the role for this job. Maybe they just don't want to have social media at all? Gah I hate the hellworld timeline.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:18
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goatface posted:Have you explained to him that they are silly? It wouldn’t be productive because they’ve got family members selling NFTs. They basically co-opted a half hour of each employees time, which adds up to quite a lot, to pitch us something for selfish reasons. The CEO was also in that meeting and if I were him I’d be pissed.
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The Butcher posted:I just overheard from the hiring people "I don't seem do be able to find her on any social media platforms, that's a bit suspicious..." Do you work for Amazon? No social media platforms means so officially unofficial company positive social media posts.
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NapalmWeasel posted:Reminds me of training my mom when she got a smart phone: Call if it's an emergency, text if it can wait. Made me remember, the same boss asked me to look for some files on his office PC. The first folders I saw was a very well curated porn collection, each file had a name describing the type of action to be found inside like “with a busy rear end in a top hat”. He was a very cool guy tho, the best boss I had. Let you do your thing and wouldn’t leave you alone when you screwed up and left a lot of people without power. He was as calm as a stoner when we were in really bad situations.
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The Butcher posted:I just overheard from the hiring people "I don't seem do be able to find her on any social media platforms, that's a bit suspicious..." I hope this never happens to me. Ive deleted Facebook and scrubbed any semblance to my actual identity from my Instagram.
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The social media thing reminded me of a crazy thing that happened to me at an old job. It's not really employer related, but drat it's nuts. At one of my old jobs we hired an 18 year old kid as basically the lowest level developer possible. Essentially like an intern, but directly hired on as a normal employee that we already planned to keep around and grow. Seemed mutually advantageous at the time. He was pretty good at the job, a little eccentric and very clearly a kid still, but knew enough about coding and was picking up new things pretty well. He did have the interesting personal detail of having 2 kids from 2 different mom's at that age, but whatever, not my concern. We had a pretty lenient remote work policy, and because of his long commute I basically let him remote most of the time as long as he was checking in and getting work done. After months, one day I realize he hasn't really checked in any work or messaged me on our chat software or anything for a day or two. I don't get a reply to his emails, nor will he answer his phone. At this point I'm worried something happened, so I start to figure out if we should call his emergency contact and make sure he didn't get in a crash commuting in or something. Well his emergency contact, his mom, ends up calling me before I can even figure this out. She's pretty distraught I can tell, so I instantly think the worst, but it was much weirder. Our conversation went something like this Her: "Please tell me he's been coming to work lately" Me: "Actually I haven't heard from him for a day or two and was trying to get in contact with him. I was about to contact you to make sure he wasn't hurt or something." Her: "Oh no. Are you sure?" Me: "Yeah, we haven't heard from him and it seems like he hasn't even logged in" Her: "I don't think he will be. He left a note saying he's leaving for Thailand for good and that we can find his car at the airport. I was really hoping it wasn't true." At this point I'm shocked, the rest of the conversation is basically that he seemed like a smart kid so it's really a shame he's trying to do this insane thing. Then me and one of the other developers are intensely curious so we starting combing the internet. He'd be planning this move for basically the entire time. He'd been posting on a ton of message boards and sub reddits about moving to Thailand to "start over" and be free. Specifically his plan was to get a tourist visa, head to the Chiang Mai, Thailand and just stay there indefinitely. His plan was to be a "digital nomad", working remotely or doing freelance work as long as possible, but even without work he reckoned he could last quite a while as Chiang Mai was cheap and he'd saved essentially every penny he got. He had questions about how to work the visa system and avoid being kicked out. I also remember seeing posts about trying to make sure nobody knew before he left and couldn't track him down once he did. He also at first posted a few updates, so I know he at least got to Chiang Mai and started living there, but eventually deleted all his accounts and posts that I knew of so I don't really know how his story ended. All I know is that a lot of places made it sound like Thailand is really really good at chewing up foreigners who try to move there. It's an absolutely crazy story. It's also the only time I've had to fire someone, though it was basically just mailing his parents his last check and locking out his credentials since I never heard from him again. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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The Butcher posted:I just overheard from the hiring people "I don't seem do be able to find her on any social media platforms, that's a bit suspicious..." I've got a friend with barely any social media presence at all. He has a Facebook account he probably hasn't used in over five years, and even when he did, he never posted anything or uploaded any pictures. He likes cats a lot, so I would basically just post cat memes to his wall all the time. So he goes in for an interview somewhere and they ask if they can see his social media profile. He says sure, and they're treated to nothing but dozens and dozens of pictures of cats. Guess they were trying to make sure he wasn't posting anything publicly that would make the company look bad.
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wilderthanmild posted:The social media thing reminded me of a crazy thing that happened to me at an old job. It's not really employer related, but drat it's nuts. Unironically what a loving legend. Without commenting on what happens to him afterwards, an 18 year old managing to go through with that is pretty impressive. Leaving his kids behind isn't cool at all, but it's understandable why a kid would kick out like that.
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I just finished a job that clocked a total of 250 hours of work. This was all for a 2 week lead time (lol try 6) where I got help from two other people for maybe 40 hours of that work. Most of that 250 is me. So naturally sales calls me this morning to inform me they sold two more jobs of equal size with two week lead times and they're mad that i quoted 250 hours each. "But Spaghett. There are liquidated damages for every week that we're late. 5% of total job value per week in damages. We're not gonna make any money!" I'd say that's one helluva a way to give a customer a 20% discount. On the first job. Now the second job....
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Outrail posted:Unironically what a loving legend. Meme Poker Party posted:That guy is a LEGEND in the child abandonment community lol. I don't explicitly know that he wasn't paying child support at least, but even in that scenario he'd be leaving his children without a dad. Hell, even if he was planning on getting one of the moms to come over there, I doubt he'd bring the other mom and kid too. It was really weird because he talked about how much he liked his kids a lot from what I remember, but there is no way he wasn't a dead beat to at least one of his kid in this whole Thailand scenario.
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My last company had a wonderful combo of picking the absolute worst candidates for management positions previously held by beloved colleagues and also paying outside hires insane amounts over internal applicants to jobs. The result of this was my new idiot manager, located in a different office, deciding that he would make me a team lead but without the title, pay, or perks when he assigned me to conduct interviews and choose who we'd hire for the expanded department in my office (where it was currently a department of just me). I do the interviews, having no experience and being kind of awful at it, but get through it just fine and send him and HR my top choices. They'ce make an offer to my top guy, when a few days later I'm added to an email thread about him negotiating his salary. Not only does he want more, but I can see their initial offer was 19% more than my current salary and 30% more than when I had the same job 2 years earlier. For a dude I was supposed to shadow manage for my boss. Of my top three career moments, one of them was absolutely going apeshit on my boss for his sloppiness, the gendered pay discrimination, and the balls to actually still try to hire the guy after I caught this. Luckily, dude (wisely) passed on my company and I got a raise. Best moment was when said manager broke down crying 6 months later when I told him Id accepted a better job in a different department. He was such a wired, unstable mess and maybe only 5-8 years older than me, so I think somehow he thought we were friends and took it really personally.
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Meme Poker Party posted:That guy is a LEGEND in the child abandonment community lol. Yeah I explicitly said that aspect wasn't cool at all. I was talking just about how he managed to organize and pull that off at the age of 18. It is possible to have more than one opinion of something at the same time.
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wilderthanmild posted:Then me and one of the other developers are intensely curious so we starting combing the internet. He'd be planning this move for basically the entire time. He'd been posting on a ton of message boards and sub reddits about moving to Thailand to "start over" and be free. Specifically his plan was to get a tourist visa, head to the Chiang Mai, Thailand and just stay there indefinitely. His plan was to be a "digital nomad", working remotely or doing freelance work as long as possible, but even without work he reckoned he could last quite a while as Chiang Mai was cheap and he'd saved essentially every penny he got. Was it this guy? All of the points match up lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1du4PKfMcc This dude is also a raging anti-feminist/LGBTQ/etc so that might match up with the child abandonment
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Outrail posted:Yeah I explicitly said that aspect wasn't cool at all. I was talking just about how he managed to organize and pull that off at the age of 18. It's ok, the lol was not meant to signify an attack. I was also loling at the idea of LEGENDARY child abandonment, because it's funny and I'm a bad person.
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Meme Poker Party posted:It's ok, the lol was not meant to signify an attack. I was also loling at the idea of LEGENDARY child abandonment, because it's funny and I'm a bad person. Great, now we need a new child abandonment classification system
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AHH F/UGH posted:Was it this guy? All of the points match up lmao Not him unless he completely changed appearance, name, and accent. I was actually really shocked to find out how common this whole "digital nomad" thing is either as a fantasy or a reality.
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I backpacked for two solid years, and tried the digital nomad thing briefly. It sucked trying to find a quiet place to stare at your laptop in a hostel or whatever. Also it's hard to enjoy a permanent holiday when you've got deadlines building up while everyone around you is having fun and getting hosed up. The smart move is to rent an apartment and stay in one place for a few months, then move and do it again and again. This is great in your 20's but I'm pushing 40 now and holy poo poo that sounds exhausting. I just want a garden and stability and the knowledge I'm not getting deported in three months.
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wilderthanmild posted:Not him unless he completely changed appearance, name, and accent. I was actually really shocked to find out how common this whole "digital nomad" thing is either as a fantasy or a reality. You can make it work, and you can make it work well. The same way you can go to Japan to teach english, or go to Korea to do whatever ex-pat bullshit they have a lock on. Or go to Thailand for....reasons. You can get a 40 hour a week lovely IT job paying $40k with no benefits and live fairly well in a lot of the lower cost of living areas. All you need is a laptop, internet, and the willingness to either work from 11 PM to 8 am every day, or finding a job that lets you do your computer janitoring/code touching after normal business hours. But like most of those people who post about going to Japan to teach english, they learn it sucks, it's not for them, and they quit and go back home.
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The whole Thailand digital nomad thing just makes me think of the lady who did it last year and sold an ebook about how you too could dodge paying taxes and other local laws to live like royalty. She ended up getting deported I think. edit: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55728398 nexus6 fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Apr 2, 2021 |
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zedprime posted:In a, uh fair isn't the right word, normal? effective? Capitalist society other people's pay is market info you need for effective negotiation to place your labor supply in the right place on the supply/demand chart. Companies know this and instead play every sort of awful anti labor game you can think of to try and distort even an educated person's understanding of where their labor supply line intersects the demand line. Pages back, but this is a good post that really rings especially true if you ever have the fortune/misfortune to actually grapple with a complete picture of budget/billing for a project or whatnot. Unless you're pretty senior or in accounting, you don't often get to see exactly how your contribution is being billed to a client - that's usually eye-watering enough - but further to that, the kind of spaghetti mess that goes on behind the scenes where budgeting is reallocated. Which is part and parcel of this: Inzombiac posted:I have to code my labor on my timesheet down to 15 minute increments but no one can tell me what constitutes what. Where actual work involved and timings is often just a fiction. Like a client is billed for 20 hours of X and 40 of Y, and then X overruns by like double and all the hours get shuffled into Y. It's not unusual to see situations where certain work is billed at 4-5x+ your effective hourly rate and that excess (that isn't just regular ol' profit) is skimmed off to pay for other areas where the rate is only billed at double or even close to cost. How much you actually add value is almost always completely opaque to you. wilderthanmild posted:The social media thing reminded me of a crazy thing that happened to me at an old job. It's not really employer related, but drat it's nuts. SEA is just filled to the brim with people like this (although usually a decade older or so). It's absolutely possible to subsist and even make bank due to the low cost of living, although Thailand is probably on the expensive end. Most don't end up staying for the long-term though.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Apparently there's also a more intense version I've never heard which is "fed up to the back teeth" This is a saying in french that I've heard a few times for when you're way too full
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My last company was an endless source of dysfunctional thinking. It was a ride hailing company(not that one) that kept having outages because the programmers kept deploying broken code. To fix this, the seniors decided to only allow deployments in the morning, cutting our deployment opportunities by half. Our outage rate was also cut in half. This was hailed as a great success, and made permanent. People like me who suggested that adding a testing stage between development and deployment were told that good engineers didn't need to test their code. Eventually everyone who complained was "incentivised to leave" Wish me luck, I'm starting my new life as a digital nomad in two weeks. I have to stay in a nearby timezone, so Thailand is not possible, but I prefer sex with adults anyway.
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Dongsturm posted:People like me who suggested that adding a testing stage between development and deployment were told that good engineers didn't need to test their code. Eventually everyone who complained was "incentivised to leave" I'm sorry, did you work here in the 70s?
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That sounds like the project manager who removed all the iterative design improvements following testing and proposed we just designed it right the first time. She was promoted out of the role, of course.
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