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The Oldest Man posted:https://twitter.com/meaganmday/status/1377679989252911106?s=20 Jacobin writers rule
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More like dumbfucks & Dogshit Just don't post there Let baby have their bottle I really think that the drama is bullshit and, honestly, d&d succ is just regurgitated horseshit from more primo succ sources
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who are they talking about then like, the Dem's most vocal critics online were a few months ago angry that M4A didn't get a floor vote, and today are angry about conditions at the border. Neither of those are particularly utopian outcries.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:16
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how is it utopian to abolish the border but practical to abolish the agency responsible for making the border a real thing that materially impacts peoples lives. please someone walk me through this because my brain just crashed. is she just saying we should rename ICE
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Apr 1, 2021 19:16
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I think she is saying literally nothing. just absolutely no words meaning things
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Apr 1, 2021 19:19
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https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1377680880873963530?s=20
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alarumklok posted:I think she is saying literally nothing. just absolutely no words meaning things AnimeIsTrash posted:Jacobin writers rule
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QUEER FRASIER posted:how is it utopian to abolish the border but practical to abolish the agency responsible for making the border a real thing that materially impacts peoples lives. please someone walk me through this because my brain just crashed. is she just saying we should rename ICE borders didn't exist as they do today as recently as like 150 years ago it's real easy to imagine
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Apr 1, 2021 19:23
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About time an administration had the balls to do this. Considering how they, Congress, divert the taxes the rest of us pay for their own personal reasons. Putting people back to work while helping the economy and fixing our broken parts? Yay America !
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Apr 1, 2021 19:24
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lol the American left is worthless
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Cpt_Obvious posted:But the one stipulation we have is not to touch the poop. And let's be honest, there is literally nothing to be gained from doing so. You're not going to convince anyone because they don't want to be convinced. I'm okay with having an echo chamber over there as long as we don't have to pretend it's a place for serious politics discussion.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:26
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The EU has relatively free movement across borders without an abolition of borders entirely. Historically US borders ended where armed forces stopped settlers from entering, so there wasn't much to stop people from coming in. I think trying to control people entering began with the Chinese exclusion act. The calls for abolishing police and borders does point the very broad horizon of abolishing the state. The abolition of the state is honestly a broadly popular demand in the US because neoliberalism has convinced people that it's impossible for the state to do anything that makes people's lives better.
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Apr 1, 2021 19:27
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Marjorie Taylor Green is going to assassinate him or maybe Boebert or most likely it'll be a JFK situation, Cawthorn wheeling around, tearing up the grassy knoll
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QUEER FRASIER posted:how is it utopian to abolish the border but practical to abolish the agency responsible for making the border a real thing that materially impacts peoples lives. please someone walk me through this because my brain just crashed. is she just saying we should rename ICE like there would be real value in trashing ice even if their tasks get distributed to new organs. but it’s aoc working to get either is just as fantastical
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Apr 1, 2021 19:29
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frankenfreak posted:Yeah, that is the cruz of the thing. 
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I've never been a fan of the notion of a political elite class. I think it tends to stereotype People without getting to the nuance of what they're all about. For example, the Times article leads with Cuomo. Despite whatever you want to say about his personal conduct, there is a clear difference to me between him and a Josh Holloway in terms of political agenda and how that drives his accomplishments. And that is very important. Plus, the notion of elites is tied too much to the Republican buzzword use to paint all educated liberals as elites. This encourages many Republicans to be proud of ignorance, and to despise expertise. Education is something that everyone should want to strive for. Liberals don't have an elite ruling class. We have leaders. Those leaders embody our values and work to promote and build upon them. And when they don't, we should reject them as leaders
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Apr 1, 2021 19:30
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the article..................................... the top comments.................  so seattle! (though most of these commenters prob don't even live in the city proper)
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lol everyone needs to open 'er up except the white house nursing home, way to dangerous for that still. edit: no loving way Reality Protester posted:I've never been a fan of the notion of a political elite class. I think it tends to stereotype People without getting to the nuance of what they're all about. BitcoinRockefeller has issued a correction as of 19:34 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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Apr 1, 2021 19:32
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that jayapal plan mostly just looks like its "give more money to process people faster" and a lot of words about how we need to be nicer while we do it
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Apr 1, 2021 19:33
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Shipon posted:this is low hanging fruit since it's noah but alternative take: this is stage 1 of the media campaign to get people on board with the H1B visa again
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Apr 1, 2021 19:41
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:lol everyone needs to open 'er up except the white house nursing home, way to dangerous for that still.  like fuckin' half of the progressive bubble Dem leaders are ivy league graduates who are related to each other within like three or four branches on their respective family trees and are part of generational political legacies are there any old school republican dynasties left???
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Just stop touching the poop. If you want to talk about their lovely moderation and their lovely posters, fine. But the one stipulation we have is not to touch the poop. And let's be honest, there is literally nothing to be gained from doing so. You're not going to convince anyone because they don't want to be convinced.
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Reality Protester posted:I've never been a fan of the notion of a political elite class. I think it tends to stereotype People without getting to the nuance of what they're all about. lol, that one almost got me
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Waterbed Wendy posted:I have been lurking dnd and cspam lately and every single day the thought "wow that's an unfair probe" runs through my head while reading dnd. It's really sick, tbh. These people aren't interested in any debate at all, it's a loving joke. They've basically devolved into literally just considering "this person is trying to stir poo poo up" a valid reason for a probation. They've basically come up with a justification that can be used to just probate anyone they don't like. It's a twisting of the meaning of "trolling" to extent to "literally anything that the 'thread regulars' react negatively to." It obviously looks completely insane to anyone who isn't already a part of their "community," but from their perspective anyone who comes into the forum with any sort of strong disagreement is just a troll who is trying to rile people up and "own their posting enemies." This has always been an issue, but it's even worse now (likely because they now have a Democratic administration they want to defend). In the past there were generally some threads in D&D where you get get away with actual arguments (and the worst people kept to the Trump/USPol thread), but now it's spread throughout the entire subforum. MooselanderII posted:Why not just make D&D a closed off forum at this point? There's obviously no point in posting there if you disagree with anything about the Biden administration. I've never been a consistently active poster there or here, but I don't see what there is to discuss other than for being a Q&A about what's in Biden policy proposals. You can disagree as long as you acknowledge that the person you disagree with (either the poster or politician) is a good person and their ideas aren't actually bad/harmful. So in the immigration thread if you advanced an argument like "I think it would be better if Biden did this, but Biden is doing his best" that would be acceptable, but it's unacceptable to actually argue that the Biden administration doesn't have good intentions. The way they justify this in terms of forum rules/moderation is "you should always assume other people are acting in good faith." Of course, this is inconsistently applied (they don't require this standard for either Republicans or for anyone else they don't like, like Greenwald etc), but they consider the good intentions of the Democratic Party to be an obvious truth that only a cynical lunatic would doubt. Taken to its extreme, you end up with insane poo poo like the thing joepinetree mentioned with it being unacceptable to bring up the fact that all these same people called the same camps "concentration camps" prior to Biden's inauguration.
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ram dass in hell posted:There's a terrible democrat zoo right there and it's fun to bang on the glass and rile up the libs sometimes, even if the zookeepers get mad and even if you get kicked out of the zoo That's the best excuse for toilet licking I've heard
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Ytlaya posted:
Compare and contrast where D&D was just a few years ago, when it had the "Democrats are a waste" thread that we used to post in consistently in the year or so after the 2016 election. It was easy to get probed back then, but at least there was some sense of passable "fairness" back then, JeffersonClay and Braniac_5 got banned, for example. It's breathtaking to see how far it has shifted since even then.
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Judakel posted:How likely is it that Sawant will be recalled? I have absolutely no loving clue and yet I am confident in saying 99.999%
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my bony fealty posted:DnD becoming a hugbox that squashes dissent via the heavy hand of the probe, a liberal Free Republic, is sad. or was it always that way and I was just too libbrained to see it? DnD was fine pre-trump, there was plenty of dissent, discourse frequently reached C-Spam levels of casual and we had a handful of openly conservative posters. But, after Trump made nazis feel comfortable going public, it made every conservative seem sinister and the rules of engagement for a lot of woke liberals at that point was to assume that every person who disagreed with you was a bad actor - mansplaining, sealioning, etc. You couldn't engage in a conversation anywhere with these loving people without somebody coming up with a word to explain why you shouldn't have posted at all. I think the overlap with changes in the way tumblr and twitter's filters worked, expansions of block functionality in social media, etc, greatly exacerbated the problem. The primary ways people communicate online are not conducive to a debate anymore. When you have people who immerse themselves in an environment where every controversial opinion is filtered and every challenge to their ideas is blocked, they just seem to loving shut down when they're put on the spot, made to feel awkward, or get pissed off. There's no reading the previous posts anymore, there's no researching the issue or defending your point or just calling the other guy an rear end in a top hat and moving on. In the absence of a block button, angry poster hit report. Pretty soon, you get a situation where mods are probing people just because "we got a lot of reports" and not bothering to actually see what was going on. edit: oh yeah and remember that time D&D was just probing people basically at random for not posting dogs on new pages? didn't that poo poo go on for like a loving month? it was like they couldn't decide if they wanted to be zany and fun GBS bullshit or a serious discussion forum Mirthless has issued a correction as of 20:25 on Apr 1, 2021 |
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The Oldest Man posted:https://twitter.com/meaganmday/status/1377679989252911106?s=20 gently caress it goon communist party when. we can't do a worse job than the careerists and taintrunner already doomed the human species anyway
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Raskolnikov38 posted:gently caress it goon communist party when. we can't do a worse job than the careerists and taintrunner already doomed the human species anyway goon project: quantify the harm caused by taintrunner versus that caused by thomas midgley jr
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Raskolnikov38 posted:we can't do a worse job loadbearing drywall
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MooselanderII posted:JeffersonClay good lord that's a blast from the loving past
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What the gently caress is wrong with these people. If you don't believe better things are possible and should shoot for the loving moon always then you are a liberal not a lefty.
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alarumklok posted:loadbearing drywall look either we win or we get lols to last us until the planet burns
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Raskolnikov38 posted:look either we win or we get lols to last us until the planet burns okay you're right. sign me up as treasurer or anything else responsible for lots of money
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:the article..................................... I live in her district and the people here suck but that's probably everywhere
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:lmao who bought gjb that av? What was it? They blanked it already, the cowards
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