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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Mikl posted:

Jesus christ, these two.

Your daughter is one. She doesn't understand proper etiquette, and that's perfectly fine. She's having fun. Your two other children are having fun too. Stop being such sticks in the mud.

It would've been so easy to fix this, too. Just have the parents smile in exasperation at each other or join in on the kids' laughter, and then it would look like a cute family moment. The way Foob almost always ends a punchline with the parents looking on in misery is so exhausting.

SubNat posted:

Moominposting


I thought they made a room for Little My, but seeing her sleep in Moominmama and Moominpapa's bed is so adorable. :3:

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Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.
The Far Side










Pickles


Zits

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

I always liked this one a lot.

LazyQ
Feb 22, 2011

Mämmilä (February 23, 1991)



The 90s depression is hitting Finland, mainly the result of relaxation of banking laws that allowed massive foreign loan-taking that fueled the boom years of the 80s (dubbed "casino economics"). Abetting factors include the fall of Soviet Union, Finland's main trading partner.

Isopaljo's speech has a lot going on, though much of it is depressingly familiar right-wing talking points.
"EC" is of course European Communities, one of the building blocks of EU.
"Mandatory Swedish": Finland is a bilingual country with a large Swedish-speaking minority, thanks to being part of Sweden for most of its history. Swedish language is a mandatory school subject and changing this is something that's suggested from time to time, particularly by the more nationalistic parties.
"Brother tribes": Finns are part of the Finno-Ugric peoples of the Baltic, Urals and Carpathia. However, the kind of people who take this stuff really seriously on a political level might find this group uncomfortably Slavic and would rather attach Finns to the fetchingly Aryan Scandinavia, but it is unclear what kind of ethnonationalism Isopaljo is courting here.
"Saddam and Somalis" refers to Finland's first big refugee waves from Somalia and Iraq, "Somali" becoming a derogatory catch-all name for black people in Finland.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Green Intern posted:

Like ground dog day you say?

Please do not grind dogs! They are our friends and are good for therapy!

Truly we are blessed by dogs!

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Endless Mike posted:

Please do not grind dogs! They are our friends and are good for therapy!

Truly we are blessed by dogs!

Please, tell me more.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

manero posted:

Nancy 1946



Ah! Delightful!


Powered Descent posted:

Oh god, it's all starting over again! Over and over and over like Groundhog Day! :gonk:

It's so dogdamn stupid too! Wasn't it "oh, no! A suit! My husband wore suits *sniff*"

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Meant to post this earlier

Right this minute there's a live Zoom chat with Jim Davis at HA.com

the link should work

[https://click.ems.ha.com/?qs=d7b17b...e9340fbf5aec3ee

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

LazyQ posted:

Mämmilä (February 23, 1991)



The 90s depression is hitting Finland, mainly the result of relaxation of banking laws that allowed massive foreign loan-taking that fueled the boom years of the 80s (dubbed "casino economics"). Abetting factors include the fall of Soviet Union, Finland's main trading partner.

Isopaljo's speech has a lot going on, though much of it is depressingly familiar right-wing talking points.
"EC" is of course European Communities, one of the building blocks of EU.
"Mandatory Swedish": Finland is a bilingual country with a large Swedish-speaking minority, thanks to being part of Sweden for most of its history. Swedish language is a mandatory school subject and changing this is something that's suggested from time to time, particularly by the more nationalistic parties.
"Brother tribes": Finns are part of the Finno-Ugric peoples of the Baltic, Urals and Carpathia. However, the kind of people who take this stuff really seriously on a political level might find this group uncomfortably Slavic and would rather attach Finns to the fetchingly Aryan Scandinavia, but it is unclear what kind of ethnonationalism Isopaljo is courting here.
"Saddam and Somalis" refers to Finland's first big refugee waves from Somalia and Iraq, "Somali" becoming a derogatory catch-all name for black people in Finland.

+The first panel is referring the prime minister famously saying: "I'm drinking coffee now", when he tried to avoid journalists asking inconvenient questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKSXRv8vqlc

Professor Wayne
Aug 27, 2008

So, Harvey, what became of the giant penny?

They actually let him keep it.

Parahexavoctal posted:

Meant to post this earlier

Right this minute there's a live Zoom chat with Jim Davis at HA.com

the link should work

[https://click.ems.ha.com/?qs=d7b17b...e9340fbf5aec3ee

Right now, he's talking about how much he loves Garfield Minus Garfield and how he talked his lawyers down from suing the creator to offering him a publishing contract. Really good stuff.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Surgeon's Tales



Nancy


and here's Heart:

I checked the last few weeks and while I like the art, it's still not really grabbing me. Shame.

Dustin


Mandrake

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Professor Wayne posted:

Right now, he's talking about how much he loves Garfield Minus Garfield and how he talked his lawyers down from suing the creator to offering him a publishing contract. Really good stuff.

Other interesting bits (I think the recording will be posted on Facebook, but I'm not sure):

Garfield became bipedal as a result of the first animated special. They wanted to have a bit in the opening sequence where he'd get up and dance around – they were going to have an actual dancer do the bit, and then rotoscope Garfield over her. But they couldn't make it work. Jim kept drawing and redrawing, and it didn't look right. Charles Schulz was in the building at the time, working on a Peanuts animated special, and Jim went over to talk to him about this issue, and Schulz said "give me that", and took Jim's sketch of Garfield and redrew it so that he was bipedal with huge feet (the way Snoopy is), and it worked. (Also, when animated Charlie Brown scratches his head, he does it with the arm that's away from the camera, because his arms are too short for that to work.)

Jim tries to keep the strip apolitical and pun-free so that it'll translate well to foreign markets. That said, the one where Garfield is super-depressed – "I'm feeling down. Down, down, down, down, doobie doobie down down. Down, down, comma comma doobie down" – is not only one of his favorites, it got huge amounts of fan mail.

Jim had 25 cats as a child (because he grew up on a farm). He went to the same high school as James Dean (not at the same time), and had the same drama coach.

Odie is challenging to write because he doesn't speak. He's a free spirit and loves everyone. Jim thinks of himself as, essentially, Jon.

Jim has met both Alvin Toffler and David Prowse ("the guy who did Darth Vader"), and both of them commented that it must be nice to have fans who have uniformly positive reactions to them: Toffler traveled with bodyguards, and Prowse said people would sometimes accost him with lightsabers ("swords").

He remembers most of the strips, because of the tactile memory of drawing them. Sometimes a gag seems familiar, so he'll word-search the dialogue archives and check.

The host chose not to ask about dog semen.

He did, however, ask my question: are there any strips that he'd like to revisit, any jokes that night have worked in 1982 but not today, anything that might have been less than optimal. "Yes, all of them."

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Gatto Grigio
Feb 9, 2020

Re: Intelligent Life - ironically, turning it into a talking animal strip could be an improvement. It wouldn’t be great but far better than we have now.

A monkey and a dog getting up to hijinks in the space program? That’d be a fun strip with the right creator.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011





Oh, Worubu:eng99:

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
:siren: POTLATCH RIOT OF 1913 :siren:

(previous installments: 1 2 3)

4. Judge Humpty Dumpty vs. Everybody (the aftermath)



In human costs, there have been worse riots in American history. Everything was property damage, and the only reported casualty was a Wobbly with a broken nose. But for Mayor George Cotterill, who believed (not without reason) that the Times stage managed the previous night’s pub crawl of destruction, a second round was out of the question. He took control of the police department, mobilized off-duty firemen to help keep the peace, closed the saloons and liquor stores, and suspended all street meetings and public speakers.

The Times, however, was a very special case. Cotterill ordered Police Chief Claude G. Bannick to make sure that no copy of the Times circulated in the city limits until Monday at the earliest "unless the proprietors submit to me the entire proofs of any proposed issue and that it be found and certified by me as containing nothing calculated to incite to further riot, destruction of property and danger to human life."

Bannick had his men surround the building to make sure that copies weren’t smuggled out, and then presented the mayor’s order to Alden Blethen. Once Blethen calmed down, he gave a call to his old friend Judge John Humphries, who issued bench warrants for Cotterill and Bannick.

Murray C. Morgan, in a 1960 write-up, sums up what happened next:

Murray C. Morgan posted:

It was early afternoon before the warrants were served and the officials brought before the bar. Judge Humphries, a ponderous man of profoundly conservative views, asked Cotterill what he meant by such interference with freedom of the press. The mayor, using Blethen's own favorite phrase, said that stories as inaccurate as the one that touched off the Potlatch Riot were not an exercise of liberty but of license.

The irony of Blethen's paper being suppressed on the ground that it was creating anarchy in its advocacy of suppressing anarchy was lost on Judge Humphries. He was not amused. He issued an order restraining Cotterill from interfering further with the Times. (His phrasing indicated that he considered the mayor's action to be in restraint of business rather than a violation of freedom of the press.)

But having told Cotterill to remove the police from around the Times plant immediately, Humphries proceeded to scold him for almost an hour for overstepping his authority, a lecture the mayor rather enjoyed because as long as he was in the courtroom listening the Times Building was blockaded.

The Times went out a few hours behind schedule on the 19th, but it went out, a summary of its own difficulties of the day pushing the account of the previous night’s riot to page two. The Sunday edition was when Blethen oiled up his guns for the next target: recall Cotterill.



The upcoming papers made sure to hold a few columns on the front page for the outrages of the “advocate of anarchy” in City Hall...especially once it came out he was considering reimbursing the Socialists for damages incurred during the riot. Outrageous, I tell you.

The Times, arguably having the most skin in the game, was pretty much alone in taking victory laps over the course of the weekend. The other mainstream papers treated the incident as a matter of civic embarrassment...and advocated sweeping its memory under the rug as quickly as possible. Then as now, brunch conquers all.

That was going to be tricky for the leftists who ate the brunt of the attack. For the Wobblies, who even in the pro-labor papers were the recipients of a distinct “you can dish it out, but you can’t take it” vibe, it was another in a string of hard lessons they were picking up across the country. Wells’ anti-Blethen play was cancelled by the theater management in the wake of all the violence. But an equally immediate concern was that Judge Humphries wasn’t done with them yet.



Humphries issued an injunction to prevent Millard Price and other Socialists from speaking in the vicinity of the destruction of the Little Red News Wagon. The Socialists challenged the order, but since Humphries was the one hearing the appeal, they were dipping their bucket into a dry well. A month later, the Socialists held a meeting outside of City Hall to protest Humphries’ maneuver, and he promptly cited the speakers for contempt of court. The Fifth Ward local responded with a resolution signed by 99 Socialists daring him to try that with them, too. He obliged them all with arrest warrants, which in turn inspired more Socialists and their sympathizers to sign on as well. The signature count topped out at 545.

The trials started in October, and it went about as well as expected. Humphries fined the defense attorneys $100 each and disbarred them. 97 defendants were fined for contempt and each given a six-month sentence for “disrespect”. One guy was even given eleven months for saying out loud in the courtroom that the judge “was making an rear end of himself”.

It’s possible that Governor Ernest Lister was beginning to get the same idea. At the very least he was getting an earful from an outraged public, and arranged to make the trip up from Olympia to see what the hell had crawled up Humphries’ butt. It was while he was in transit that Humphries released the prisoners and rescinded his injunction.

5. So anyway...

The Cotterill recall never gained traction, and his beef with Blethen devolved into a string of lawsuits that never went anywhere. When the next mayoral election came around, his name wasn't on the ballot. His brief stint as mayor was somewhere in the center of a long career of civil service, although he did attempt to run for high office several more times, well into the 1950s.

Judge John Humphries died on the morning of May 29, 1915. His Times eulogy singled out his conduct during the 1913 Potlatch aftermath as a career highlight. Modern historians remember him in different ways.

Humphries was followed into the great beyond by Alden Blethen on July 12th of that year. Among the eulogizing and tearing of hair on the front page of the next day's Times was a view of Blethen as a "friend, employer, patriot, benefactor of the needy, and constant advocate of Seattle's interests". It was under the byline of M.M. Mattison, the political reporter who wrote all that incendiary riot coverage. In one of the rarest things you can find in the modern media landscape, the paper has stayed in the Blethen family for well over a century, with a Blethen holding controlling interest in the Seattle Times to this day.

In the years and decades to come, Hulet Wells had a lot going on. In the not too distant future of 1917, he was tried for sedition and imprisoned for opposing the draft, and in 1931 he was one of the founders of the Unemployed Citizens' League of Seattle. He has an unpublished autobiography in one of the university archives ("I Wanted To Work"), and from the snippets that have leaked out in other peoples' research, it looks like it might be a good read.

There was a Golden Potlatch in 1914, but it was significantly smaller and the last one for a long time. Between the events of '13 and the rumbles of war in Europe, the bloom was off the rose. There was a sporadic revival in the 1930s, but another war put a damper on that, leaving it to Seafair to carry the local summer festival tradition into the present day.

Oh, and because we're still pretending this is about comic strips, here's your weather. (July 19-20, 1913)




On the run from libel charges. On that particular weekend. Just a coincidence, I'm sure...

And that concludes our presentation. Thank you for your time.

EasyEW fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Apr 1, 2021

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I really wanted someone to ask him about Lasagna cat. I think he'd get a kick out of them.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I think it's on record that he does, partly because he can get a licensing deal out of it, much like with Garfield Minus Garfield.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005


Ed bikes for exercise but can't be bothered to climb three flights of stairs?

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

B Kliban



Also, nature's suction cups!

Drimble Wedge
Mar 10, 2008

Self-contained

EBB posted:

Ed bikes for exercise but can't be bothered to climb three flights of stairs?

Never inconvenience a Boomer.

Scary Gary





My own thread favourites would definitely be Cul de Sac, A + J, Wallace, Andertoons, Ballard Street, Moomin and anything by Charles Addams. Hate-reads: Dustin, Working Daze, and I've always hated the cod-profundities of a FOOB "punchline". It's like they're meant to be cut out and pasted onto a fridge or something as a wry commentary on motherhood, because god knows there isn't enough "wah momming is hard" in the culture.

Drimble Wedge fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Apr 1, 2021

Medenmath
Jan 18, 2003

EasyEW posted:

And that concludes our presentation. Thank you for your time.

Thank you for going to the effort of writing all this up!

Vintage Valiant (Jul. 09, 1944)



The Medieval Castle (Jul. 09, 1944)


My Lovely Horse posted:

It seems like a huge oversight to have your food and water supply outside the castle walls where attackers can fling poo poo and corpses into it from a distance.

No doubt the castle has a well, but it might not be enough to supply all the cattle and extra people in this case. I was listening to a podcast about the Albigensian crusade a while back, and I recall the water supply being critical in a lot of sieges.

Medenmath fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Apr 1, 2021

Vargo
Dec 27, 2008

'Cuz it's KILLIN' ME!
BCN


Phoebe


Wallace


Curtis

Transmodiar
Jul 9, 2005

You're a terrible person, Mildred.
Modesty Blaise



Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




My Lovely Horse posted:

It seems like a huge oversight to have your food and water supply outside the castle walls where attackers can fling poo poo and corpses into it from a distance.

Fun Fact: Moats were almost never filled with water precisely because water is a precious resource during a siege.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

well I'm no marine biologist but I can tell you you're not gonna get a huge amount of fish out of that setup

dismas
Jul 31, 2008



i would gently caress up a bunch of buffalo wings rn

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


If I had to pick 3 strips that I need this thread for, it'd be Prince Valiant, old and new, Surgeon's Tales (Where the hell else am I going to find both a translation of that and someone explaining the missing stuff from a book that I'm not even sure is in English?), and a grab bag of Addams, Richard's Poor Almanac, Nekonaughey, etc.

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer

Kennel posted:

Nancy


and here's Heart:

I checked the last few weeks and while I like the art, it's still not really grabbing me. Shame.

Heh, who says you can't have continuity in a gag strip? Last April 1:

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Bad Machinery

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Sally Forth


Pearls Before Swine


Skippy (September 4, 1933)


Peanuts (April 1, 1974)


Harry Dinkle, God Among Clods


Crankshaft


Mutt and Jeff


Rip Haywire


Thimble Theater (November 1, 1937)


And now, in the spirit of the day, a random selection of Out Our Ways of Future Past.

J.R. Williams died in June of 1957. You'd think that would be the end of Out Our Way, with its major themes tied so closely to his life before cartooning, but people think a lot of silly things. Out Our Way outlived Williams by at least another decade and a half, ending the same year Star Wars began. The post-Williams feature was continued by a handful of sometimes-rotating artists, primarily Williams' longtime assistant Neg Cochran.









(Top to bottom: September 17, 1969, August 7, January 1, and February 19, 1971)

Since Cochran was part of the Williams crew, you might not notice much of a difference at first, and that might have something to do with why it just kept going. It showed up every day, looking like it always had, just with different hairstyles and cars and odd references. In the late 60s, it would've either been one of the unchanging points in a world gone mad or a corny wheeze that your grandpa read before Lawrence Welk. The parts of the culture resistant to change would either drive you mad or drive you sane.

This is all theoretical, though. "The past" is just a big undifferentiated blob until you start sorting it, and when you dig in for criticism you should start with the part that's on the page anyway. And yet, A MASSIVE BETRAYAL hides in plain sight on that page.



(December 25, 1971)

Come on. Look at it and tell me what you see.

You've been reading the old panels with me for the past five thousand years. Should the Worry Wart dress in clothes that look clean and pressed and...um...actually fit? Or should he look like a bag of dirty laundry kissed by the Blue Fairy and given life? I know what my answer is.



I can't stay mad forever, though. Boyzendorgz are eternal. :3:

(February 13, 1971)

EasyEW fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Apr 2, 2021

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

The Dinette Set is distracting.


Working Daze HA HA THE PAST WAS DIFFERENT THAN NOW


Super-Fun-Pak Comix works around the problem.


Cul De Sac is saved by the bell.

FrumpleOrz
Feb 12, 2014

Perhaps you have not been to the *Playground*.
The *Playground* is for Taalo and for Orz, but *Campers* can go.
It more fun than several.
You can go there for too much fun.
The Lockhorns


Brewster Rockit Space Guy


On The Fastrack


Safe Havens


Kevin & Kell


Mother Goose & Grimm


Hagar The Horrible


Sherman's Lagoon


Ella Cinders


Zorro


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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



FrumpleOrz posted:

Hagar The Horrible

lmao pranked again

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
Dinky Dinkerton, Flyin' Jenny, and The Red Knight Oct. 12th, 1940





Holy poo poo, Jenny!



Axa




Slammy
Mar 30, 2011

Great speech.
PPHPFT!!
And He Did! (April 20, 1918)


Outbursts of Everett True (May 29, 1918)


Banana Oil! (January 24, 1924)


Gay and Her Gang (May 14, 1929)


Oaky Doaks (October 14, 1935)


Dark Laughter (June 12, 1943)


Mopsy Sunday (June 6, 1948)


Those Were the Days (July 3, 1952)


Wee Pals (July 5, 1965)

riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
Garfield



Heathcliff



Overboard



Monty



Rae the Doe, which you can support by pledging to the author's Patreon

dismas
Jul 31, 2008


axa is teaching me that the thing I like about modest blaise is the plots and characterization, not the art

FrumpleOrz
Feb 12, 2014

Perhaps you have not been to the *Playground*.
The *Playground* is for Taalo and for Orz, but *Campers* can go.
It more fun than several.
You can go there for too much fun.
Kale is good. Why wouldn't rabbits like kale?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Cheer Up Boss Dharma

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Julet Esqu
May 6, 2007




Slammy posted:

Those Were the Days (July 3, 1952)


GOOD. Permit an old man to let his hair down, Art Beeman, you enormous crank.



I sew as a hobby and I wouldn't want to do this bullshit either, but yeesh, Gunt, what's with the angry eyebrows and shouty mouth? You can just say, "I don't have time to make these, I have some major studying to do." She's been cosplaying for the Internet for years now. She can cobble together a couple of pirate outfits from thrift stores and crap she has in her costume closet already. Pirates are like Cosplay 101.

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