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So we're currently talking about Foundation which has an interesting TOSquote:Collectors Rights quote:The Creator hereby acknowledges, understands, and agrees that launching a Digital Artwork on Foundation constitutes an express and affirmative grant to Foundation, its affiliates and successors a non-exclusive, world-wide, assignable, sublicensable, perpetual, and royalty-free license to make copies of, display, perform, reproduce, and distribute the Digital Artwork on any media whether now known or later discovered for the broad purpose of operating, promoting, sharing, developing, marketing, and advertising the Platform, or any other purpose related to Foundation, including without limitation, the express right to: (i) display or perform the Digital Artwork on the Platform, a third party platform, social media posts, blogs, editorials, advertising, market reports, virtual galleries, museums, virtual environments, editorials, or to the public; (ii) create and distribute digital or physical derivative Digital Artwork based on the Digital Artwork; (iii) indexing the Digital Artwork in electronic databases, indexes, catalogues; and (iv) hosting, storing, distributing, and reproducing one or more copies of the Digital Artwork within a distributed file keeping system, node cluster, or other database (e.g., IPFS) or causing, directing, or soliciting others to do so.
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Apr 4, 2021 19:47
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You see, there's absolutely no difference between having the original Starry Night hanging in your living room versus a grainy jpg you downloaded from wikimedia. You idiot. You imbecile. goes back to squinting at the picture on a phone Yes, truly the same.
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Apr 4, 2021 20:06
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walter benjamin already figured this out. there is no reason to have this discussion again
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Apr 4, 2021 20:08
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Take the original .PSD, zip it up and encrypt it with a password. Congrats, you now have authenticity and security for 3¢ worth of electricity, if that.
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Apr 4, 2021 20:13
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xtal posted:Given you can print it out, trace it over or anything, indirectly yes. My point is that you can go to an art museum and copy whatever you see even though it's owned by someone else. It's a nature of art whether physical or digital. One of those things is made of paint on canvas and the other one is made of data on your phone. Your copy is not the same; it is not made of the same materials, you cannot display it the same way. If you print it, you still lose the physical nature of the original being paint on canvas; your print becomes ink on canvas or more likely ink on paper. The physical art cannot be duplicated exactly. With an NFT, my copy of the data, which was downloaded by my browser in order to display the image to me, is necessarily identical to your copy of the data. Except the thing you own isn't that copy of the data, it's a hash of a text file indicating but not guaranteeing the location where it was being hosted at the time of the NFT's creation. Do you not understand this? Is it too complicated for you? E: Even if we get to the point of being able to 3d print with arbitrary materials, your set of those materials is not the same as the set used for the original; they are newer, they have not aged the same way; they were not used in the construction of the original. The inherently fungible nature of digital data means that there is no difference between the set of bits that makes up "your" copy of a piece of digital art and "my" copy of it. In order to put it onto a hosting service, it was copied to that service's storage. Somfin fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Apr 4, 2021 |
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Apr 4, 2021 21:51
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I honestly can't tell if xtal is doing a schtick of being astoundingly dumb and contrarian or if they are sincere-posting. 
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Apr 4, 2021 21:56
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Rectal Death Deft posted:been awhile since we had an art history major fist fight
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Apr 4, 2021 22:32
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I honestly can't tell if xtal is doing a schtick of being astoundingly dumb and contrarian or if they are sincere-posting.
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Apr 4, 2021 22:57
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If you post for long into an abyss, the abyss posts also into you.
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Apr 4, 2021 23:12
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I honestly can't tell if xtal is doing a schtick of being astoundingly dumb and contrarian or if they are sincere-posting. Poe's law would suggest there isn't one.
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Apr 4, 2021 23:39
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kw0134 posted:You see, there's absolutely no difference between having the original Starry Night hanging in your living room versus a grainy jpg you downloaded from wikimedia. You idiot. You imbecile. I'll have you know I actually own the Mona Lisa, a guy sold it to me for a cool hundred grand *proceeds to unfurl an aged map of the Louvre with its 1910 location circled* This constitutes ownership somehow
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Apr 4, 2021 23:55
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poo poo, I knew I was doing art wrong when I paid an artist for the canvas when I could have gotten a URL embedded into the ~*BLOCKCHAIN*~ at the low cost of burning a rain forest down tears painting off the wall and stomps on it for a while
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Apr 5, 2021 00:52
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:It hasn't crashed yet. The New York Attorney General ordered them to issue a full audit of their reserves and they haven't done that yet. They hired a company in the Cayman Islands that did an attestation on their total assets. That report doesn't specify how much liquid USD they have. In fact the total assets would include bitcoin purchased with fraudulently printed Tether so the attestation is useless. what blows me away is they did this exact. same. scam. years ago and they're just.... doing it again. and it's working
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Apr 5, 2021 02:22
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https://twitter.com/jfresshhh_/status/1378210798435061766?s=19 number go waaay down
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Apr 5, 2021 03:07
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Jose Valasquez posted:So you're argument now is that a picture of a physical object is the same as the physical object itself? But you never told us how many bitcoins you're selling it for!
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Apr 5, 2021 03:16
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notwithoutmyanus posted:But you never told us how many bitcoins you're selling it for! I mean, it's probably worth 1000 BTC worth of metal and brick even if someone has to dismantle it and then transport the parts to be melted down and re-used. Then again you're only getting a picture so... 10 BTC. But it is an NFT so let's say 100 BTC.
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Apr 5, 2021 04:08
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Three Olives posted:I've been busy trying so I haven't had time to process NFTs, but I am getting around to it... no. it's dumber than that Three Olives posted:...basically a blockchain receipt from a digital gallery that you "own" the right to display... you don't even get that. you get a json file with a url in it. that's it the best example someone gave is those calling cards that are all over the sidewalks in las vegas. that's what people are bidding hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars on. the card and that's it
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Apr 5, 2021 04:16
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" Like even in digital "art", there has always been some nominal DRM/actionable copyright mechanism and even then people didn't even really care if they had an easy way to bypass it.
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The only way NFT development hypothetically pays off is if it becomes a dominant and effective system of rights management.
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Apr 5, 2021 05:06
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Gazpacho posted:The only way NFT development hypothetically pays off is if it becomes a dominant and effective system of rights management. like any other legal realm it’s complicated for a reason it’s like when in the early 00s there were tons of paypal competitors springing up all the time because ‘it’s just numbers in a computer how hard could it be?’
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Apr 5, 2021 05:11
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Gazpacho posted:The only way NFT development hypothetically pays off is if it becomes a dominant and effective system of rights management. If it gets to the point that actual IP law gets involved most of the NFT "market" is likely going to blaze out really fast. The left-hand side of this GIF is the copyright lawyers and the right-hand side is NFT grifters. 
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Apr 5, 2021 06:18
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lmao i never noticed that in that scene they charge cavalry right into a deep formation of pikes
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Apr 5, 2021 14:15
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Gazpacho posted:The only way NFT development hypothetically pays off is if it becomes a dominant and effective system of rights management. Scams on scams on scams on scams.
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Apr 5, 2021 14:36
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I have a nature photography side business. Have I missed the NFT boat or can I still swindle some poor saps by (if I'm understanding this correctly) selling links to my digital file for huge sums of money.
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Apr 5, 2021 14:41
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:lmao i never noticed that in that scene they charge cavalry right into a deep formation of pikes The lovely tactics in the film (which made changes from the book to make them worse) have bothered me for twenty years.
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Apr 5, 2021 14:45
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Random Stranger posted:The lovely tactics in the film (which made changes from the book to make them worse) have bothered me for twenty years. "Deduct your own casualties from those of the enemy. If the answer is a positive sum, it was a glorious victory."
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Apr 5, 2021 15:21
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InternetJunky posted:I have a nature photography side business. Have I missed the NFT boat or can I still swindle some poor saps by (if I'm understanding this correctly) selling links to my digital file for huge sums of money. Your photos may already have been transacted as NFT's, so be sure say thanks if you ever catch whoever sold them.
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Apr 5, 2021 15:37
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Its Happening! posted:Your photos may already have been transacted as NFT's, so be sure say thanks if you ever catch whoever sold them. Can I sell a link to this thread?
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Apr 5, 2021 16:24
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:lmao i never noticed that in that scene they charge cavalry right into a deep formation of pikes The pikes were too short and for being an otherwise well-ordered force the Uruk Hai really messed up by not posting sentries on the one approach from which they could get absolutely demolished. What I'm saying is that any legal battle about NFTs will look real dumb regardless of the outcome.
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Apr 5, 2021 16:55
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https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1378945993681608708 Lol some rich people are so goddamn stupi E: followup lol https://twitter.com/logophobe/status/1379078371846414338 priznat fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Apr 5, 2021 |
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Apr 5, 2021 17:43
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how do NFT's deal with stuff that has that super pink color that most monitors cant even display. what about NFT's for uncomputable numbers or the concept of THE ENTIRE sequence of some irrational number?
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Apr 5, 2021 17:59
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By not encoding, representing, or indeed relating in any way to the thing they're attached to.
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Apr 5, 2021 18:09
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Wait, does Tesla really only leave their BTC request window open for 30 minutes? That is insane, given how backlogged transactions can get.
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Apr 5, 2021 19:16
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LanceHunter posted:Wait, does Tesla really only leave their BTC request window open for 30 minutes? That is insane, given how backlogged transactions can get. You don't become a captain of industry by being the last one left hodling the bag. That's what
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Apr 5, 2021 19:20
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TasogareNoKagi posted:You don't become a captain of industry by being the last one left hodling the bag. That's what Yeah, but this isn't even passing off the bag, though. This is like putting a shredder in front of your vending machine's bill acceptor.
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Apr 5, 2021 19:26
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This is good, money doesn't make you happy anyway. Actually, now that I think about it I never really wanted to have the money anyway so you could say Musk and Bitcoin did me a favor here. So, thank you
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Apr 5, 2021 19:31
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GABA ghoul posted:This is good, money doesn't make you happy anyway. Actually, now that I think about it I never really wanted to have the money anyway so you could say Musk and Bitcoin did me a favor here. So, thank you Lmao, brilliant
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Apr 5, 2021 20:05
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What does “window” mean? Does Tesla rotate its payment address or st
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Apr 5, 2021 20:09
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Gazpacho posted:What does “window” mean? Does Tesla rotate its payment address or st Bitcoin invoice addresses help a recipient know that the bitcoin they received came from a particular person (and not someone else saying that they were actually the person who sent X amount of BTC to an address). They are single-use, and very often have a time limit. Popular wallet Electrum defaults to 1 day when you create a request, but it can be as short as 10 minutes or as long as a week. Technically you can have ones that never time out, as well, though they're still only single-use. Yes, this is as stupid as it sounds.
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Apr 5, 2021 20:15
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They only allow you a certain window to complete the transaction because the Bitcorn price in real currency swings so wildly. Bitcorn payments aren't instant, they're processed about every 10 minutes. And about once a year, a new block doesn't get found for 40 minutes+. So if you're unlucky, you'll miss the payment window even doing everything right. After that, they seem to wait some additional hours to make sure the transaction wasn't included in an orphaned chain.
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Apr 5, 2021 20:19
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So this is what brings about the hyperbitcoinization, right?
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