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Mola Yam posted:I often wonder what the ones we never hear about are up to. creation of the DIA was always just stunting a fat lol on the public, check out the first vs. last sentence in the article comparing it to the CIA on Wikipedia 
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My grandfather was in the DIA for years after WWII. Retired as a colonel, and lived in all kinds of interesting places; Berlin, Tehran, Moscow, Puerto Rico etc. Wish I knew more than that but mom ain't talking (I don't think she knows much tbh), and the one reference I can find to him in online archives is about how he was grumpy that no one was reading the internal DIA newsletter in the 60s.
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Space Force service members are known as guardians. The title of guardian has a long history in space operations, tracing its heritage to Air Force Space Command's 1983 motto, Guardians of the High Frontier.[83] It was announced to commemorate the Space Force's first birthday by Vice President Mike Pence on 18 December 2020. Previously, they were referred to as space professionals.[84] guardians and space professionals both sound like poo poo
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The Puppet Master posted:Space Force service members are known as guardians. The title of guardian has a long history in space operations, tracing its heritage to Air Force Space Command's 1983 motto, Guardians of the High Frontier.[83] It was announced to commemorate the Space Force's first birthday by Vice President Mike Pence on 18 December 2020. Previously, they were referred to as space professionals.[84] This something like something out of a bad video game RPG.
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Apr 7, 2021 14:27
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Tangentially related, I dont know if there are any war nerd podcast people here but episode 2 on the national endowment for democracy just dropped
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Mola Yam posted:I often wonder what the ones we never hear about are up to. Office of Terrorism (and Financial Intelligence) is a little on the nose
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nut posted:I dont' think this is the right thread but I would love to read you explain more about this because lol if u think I grasped even a sentence from that article Sorry for continuing this derail, but this video from pbs spacetime has a great overview of the concept
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Apr 7, 2021 16:32
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full autopsies were performed on aliens during prime time in the 90s and no one wants you to talk about it any more. it's wild
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Apr 7, 2021 16:40
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imo, they want some people to talk about it still 
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veepfake posted:what was this story? got any keywords i could look up? one of the (former) mods runs bellingcat which functions as a cia cutout, pretty explicitly lol https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/17/bellingcat-can-say-what-u-s-intelligence-cant/ quote:The work of Bellingcat, an open-source investigative outfit, has been instrumental in exposing years of nefarious Russian activity. But, perhaps more importantly, it has also enabled U.S. officials and lawmakers to discuss Moscow’s skullduggery openly without revealing the sources and methods of the U.S. intelligence agencies. Bellingcat is of course not funded by the CIA, just the National Endowment for Democracy. NED of course was explicitly created as a funding cutout for the CIA: quote:In 1986, NED's President Carl Gershman said that the NED was created because "It would be terrible for democratic groups around the world to be seen as subsidized by the CIA. We saw that in the 1960's and that's why it has been discontinued".[55] Throughout the course of a 2010 investigation by ProPublica, Paul Steiger, the then editor in chief of the publication said that "those who spearheaded creation of NED have long acknowledged it was part of an effort to move from covert to overt efforts to foster democracy" and cited as evidence a 1991 interview in which then-NED president Allen Weinstein said, "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."
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Trabisnikof posted:one of the (former) mods runs bellingcat which functions as a cia cutout, pretty explicitly lol when I heard of bellingcat for the first time I instinctively thought "that has to be the CIA" and yes, it was. it's so stupid too, some guy at HQ was like. hey maybe we can get some online nerds to do our work for us, and it loving worked. dumb rear end nerds, even the name is the most obnoxiously reddit esque poo poo
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sorta missed most of the UFO chat but everyone should look at Bob Lazar and his story through the lens of this thread I used to think he was just a complete liar but at this point I think he believes what he's saying. I think he was recognized as a useful idiot and was shown some bullshit things that he really wanted to believe in, and he's been doing the feds' disinfo work completely free for decades now I guess he could just be a spook but I think his story would be a lot more coherent if he was
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Polymeropolous? That sounds like a loving Greek plastics laboratory, no loving way is that a real name handed down generationally from an ancestor who was named that.
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check out this 4chan post from January 2020
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mawarannahr posted:what the gently caress does it say paul_soccer12 posted:too small
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among other things talks about brazil mutation in particular being much more deadly
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lol I remember when the pandemic was young and people kept posting videos of Chinese people vomiting blood and staggering around on the streets, along with stories about bodies being burned by the tens of thousands and the military executing people in hospitals and poo poo i wonder who was behind that stuff 
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The Chad Jihad posted:In the early days of covid most of the conspiracies were about how it was actually much deadlier than was being reported, and then once lock downs started up it mostly shifted to how it was actually fake the dudes reading the sulfur emissions from wuhan and calculating millions of dead burnt bodies was good content
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Bip Roberts posted:the dudes reading the sulfur emissions from wuhan and calculating millions of dead burnt bodies was good content  this poo poo is so stupid
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it definitely went from "bro china is lying they have like a MILLION DEAD and aren't telling the truth it's like 10% fatality rate but super contagious too" to "OPEN ER UP" as soon as people realized it was just (mostly) brown people, old people, and very obese dying, and staying closed hurt profits bigly.
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KaptainKrunk posted:it definitely went from "bro china is lying they have like a MILLION DEAD and aren't telling the truth it's like 10% fatality rate but super contagious too" to "OPEN ER UP" as soon as people realized it was just (mostly) brown people, old people, and very obese dying, and staying closed hurt profits bigly. Now it's both simultaneously.
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Cached Money posted:when I heard of bellingcat for the first time I instinctively thought "that has to be the CIA" and yes, it was. it's so stupid too, some guy at HQ was like. hey maybe we can get some online nerds to do our work for us, and it loving worked. dumb rear end nerds, even the name is the most obnoxiously reddit esque poo poo CIA: where can we find a bunch of autistic people to do OSI for us and we don't have to pay them? brown moses: hold my beer
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The Puppet Master posted:Space Force service members are known as guardians. The title of guardian has a long history in space operations, tracing its heritage to Air Force Space Command's 1983 motto, Guardians of the High Frontier.[83] It was announced to commemorate the Space Force's first birthday by Vice President Mike Pence on 18 December 2020. Previously, they were referred to as space professionals.[84] Sounds like a cult. If Space Force was carved out of the Air Force Space Command, it's definitely weird and culty inside. Makes me wonder if Space Force was really Trump's dumb idea, or if the agencies forced it upon him in a "do this or have some problems" kind of way.
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SMDH. Newsweek, Newsweek, Newsweek... The blood of the young doesn't stop aging. You gotta gently caress the young like Jeffrey and Ghislane did. 
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The spaceforce was in the works for some years before trump came into office That the spaceforce is his baby is a fabrication
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^ ^ ^ Lol, beaten in the half hour it took to check-in a guy who doesn't speak English very well at all and whose name was hosed up on the reservation.Backweb posted:Makes me wonder if Space Force was really Trump's dumb idea I'm reasonably certain a double-digit percentage of Amerikkkans believe Trump made up Space Force from his own silly toddler mind and the rest of the government went along with it because God Emperor.
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Plausible deniability then. Cos the narrative that it's Trump's creation is gonna stick. A fighting force that actually is just a bloated MIC grift machine? Nah, orange man invented it. Haha isn't that crazy? Please ignore the spy satellites watching your daughter sunbathing. Praise Jesus.
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Backweb posted:Plausible deniability then. Cos the narrative that it's Trump's creation is gonna stick. They already have such satellites and I'd be legit shocked if they weren't already used for that, especially with everyone on social media posting entire loving dossiers on themselves. Space Force got parodied on Veep so yeah, liberals have already decided it's Trump's branch. The first supposed head honcho of Space Force is a First Nations broad, so if you laugh at Space Force, you hate women AND First Nations peoples!
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Tubgoat posted:They already have such satellites and I'd be legit shocked if they weren't already used for that, especially with everyone on social media posting entire loving dossiers on themselves. Yeah, the satellites are all doing that anyway, but now they're centralized! I like how TSA airport scanner techs have all been sharing the high res nudes amongst themselves for years. Even better is that 1/6 showed that the security state of the past 20 years has been a farcical grift for the MIC.
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Backweb posted:Yeah, the satellites are all doing that anyway, but now they're centralized! It was more like a Reichstag Firecracker; the intelligence community and media apparatus were in on it. I don't remember who said it and I wish I did because it is a brilliant quote (paraphrased because I don't remember the precise wording): "There was a fascist coup on 1/6, except it was by the media and government." You (not you, OP) gonna try and tell me that alphabet soup had no idea what was being planned when over half of their members were part of the group chat?
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The space force is not a fighting force. Actual warfare in space is handled by the joint space command, which i believe has been around for longer than I have
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Okay, according to wikipedia between 2002-2019 space warfare was actually under the joint Strategic command, but you get what I mean
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i hope the intelligence agents reading this thread get a good chuckle from our hijinks sometimes. like I know it's a meme to post about "the nsa agent reading this" but every thread on this forum has to be setting off alarm bells at some three letter agency. C-SPAM has gotta be hitting way too many key word filters for nobody to be checking on it periodically
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