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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Uthor posted:

Peoria set up like half a block where you are supposed to back into angled parking spaces.

https://www.pjstar.com/news/20160907/motorists-adjusting-to-reverse-angle-parking-in-downtown-peoria

Last time I was there, people would just pull in forward in the spots on the other side of the street and then reverse against traffic when leaving, I guess?

There's a chunk of this in Nob Hill in Albuquerque. It's actually pretty nice and was reasonable to do in my old Ranger; any vehicle with a backup camera has zero excuse for not doing it properly. People didn't seem to like it, though, which was just as well: parking can suck in Nob Hill, but these spots were always open.

As for parking "the wrong direction", yeah I got one of those tickets in ABQ. My house was on the east side of the street, so if I was coming home from the north I'd just swing over and park up against the curb. It was a quiet residential street, I was always the only car parked for like fifty yards in either direction so my vision up and down the street was always unobstructed, plus it was nice that I could step out directly onto the sidewalk. After months of doing this without knowing it wasn't allowed, I finally got a ticket. Pissed me off but I just paid the fucker and started either driving down the next street over or pulling a 2-point turn.

Of course the dickhead students at the nearby high school had a habit of shoving the side mirrors as they walked past, which was easy to fix when I parked the "wrong" way but involved leaning across the truck to roll down the window and gently caress with the mirror when I started to park correctly.

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EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
I was borrowing my mom's car that has keyless ignition not too long ago for a trip and ended up locking them inside when I stopped at a place I used to work and the wind blew the door mostly closed. It's much more difficult to remember to hold onto keys if you don't actually put them in the ignition and I cannot see any benefit of the feature of not having to physically stick your keys into the car.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

They never leave your pocket, is the point.

And it should be impossible to lock them in the car, because if they're in proximity of the sensor the doors should unlock/open.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

My first car was a hand-me-down '94 Ford Taurus and when my parents bought it new it had the coolest thing seven year old me had ever seen: a keypad for the central lock system on the driver's door.

Literally impossible to lock yourself out if you remember the code :smug:

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Elviscat posted:

They never leave your pocket, is the point.

And it should be impossible to lock them in the car, because if they're in proximity of the sensor the doors should unlock/open.

The first point is correct but the second point is not. If you leave your keys in the car with the door locked somehow, you will not be able to unlock them (otherwise random people could just open the door with you in it)

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
In every car I've had with a proximity key will just angrily beep if you hit one of the external door lock buttons with a key in the car. You can still lock it from the inside but you'd have to unlock it again to get out of the car so you can't lock it in that way either.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Guinness posted:

My first car was a hand-me-down '94 Ford Taurus and when my parents bought it new it had the coolest thing seven year old me had ever seen: a keypad for the central lock system on the driver's door.

Literally impossible to lock yourself out if you remember the code :smug:

I saw those cars as a kid on TV and thought "man it would be neat for a car with a pin pad". I did hear later on that they were really poo poo and failed?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

They put a basketball court into a car.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

I don't see any Greek or Italian marble dash accents or granite centre console covers.

This must be the plebian model rolls.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

Cars have reflectors integrated in the rear tail lights so parked vehicles are easier to see at night. The front does not. This is why we park in the correct orientation.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

dissss posted:

In every car I've had with a proximity key will just angrily beep if you hit one of the external door lock buttons with a key in the car. You can still lock it from the inside but you'd have to unlock it again to get out of the car so you can't lock it in that way either.

What is an external door lock button?

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Blue Footed Booby posted:

What is an external door lock button?

On my car each exterior door handle has a button to lock the doors when you have the key next to it. That's how I lock my doors every time before walking away. There is also a sensor on the inside of the handle that unlocks the car in the same way (so it unlocks just before you pull the handle). Key never leaves my pocket.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Humphreys posted:

I saw those cars as a kid on TV and thought "man it would be neat for a car with a pin pad". I did hear later on that they were really poo poo and failed?
I remember as a kid in the 80s a car parked next to us had one of those. Being young I started pressing buttons and the door unlocked. It was like all zeros or ones or something.

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

Humphreys posted:

I saw those cars as a kid on TV and thought "man it would be neat for a car with a pin pad". I did hear later on that they were really poo poo and failed?

Keypads rule. I would routinely put my keys in the door pocket and lock the car when I went to the gym. I wouldn't leave it overnight or anywhere I thought the window might get smashed though.

I also had a coworkers door code and for a few months I'd open her door and slide her chair back a little, and make comments about how sitting all day makes us shorter.

Dave Inc.
Nov 26, 2007
Let's have a drink!

StormDrain posted:

I also had a coworkers door code and for a few months I'd open her door and slide her chair back a little, and make comments about how sitting all day makes us shorter.

I can't tell if this is just clever or also evil but I'm okay with both.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Humphreys posted:

I saw those cars as a kid on TV and thought "man it would be neat for a car with a pin pad". I did hear later on that they were really poo poo and failed?

My dad has a recent Ford pickup with a key pad lock. When the truck is at home, he just leaves the fob in the door pocket and unlocks with the code.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Auto proximity locks caused a bit of a problem for me once. I was working out of an SUV/trailer combination in a secure facility where they had a grounds-keeper who would test your doors and snitch on you if they were unlocked. No one else gave a flying gently caress, but he would report you to the highest authority there so they didn't have a choice but to gently caress with you about it. I had to sit there with the manual and figure out how to disable that feature while backed up to a door with people waiting on me.

Amusingly, that facility poo poo-canned the guy but I ran into him in a non-secure area of another high-security location months later. He stopped to take pictures of my truck while my point of contact and I were exchanging pleasantries. I walked over and batted the phone out of his hand. He didn't say a word, while my POC just stood there and laughed at him. Don't be an dickweed to your co-workers.

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017

Elviscat posted:

They never leave your pocket, is the point.

And it should be impossible to lock them in the car, because if they're in proximity of the sensor the doors should unlock/open.

This car does not unlock unless you use the fob or pull the physical key out of the fob to unlock the door manually so in this case it does leave your pocket, and while I know this car is supposed to stop you from locking the keys in the car, in this case it didn't.

It makes a lot more sense to me for this kind of thing to exist when there are vehicles where you never have to pull your keys out of your pocket though

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Safety Dance posted:

I think the general rule in the US is that you always park on the right unless it's a one-way street. I know in the UK (and probably most of Europe), it's a free-for-all, just jam your car wherever there's a spot.

I've never experienced one of those reverse-angled spots, but I think they'd be a hoot. I've seen some videos of drivers struggling with them.

They're common in Austin, particularly around campus and just outside of downtown.

They're a pain in the rear end. It never fails, you throw on your blinker, you stop, put it in reverse, and someone in their lifted F950 climbs up your rear end laying on their horn.

Humphreys posted:

I saw those cars as a kid on TV and thought "man it would be neat for a car with a pin pad". I did hear later on that they were really poo poo and failed?

Ford still has that stuff AFAIK, it's just capacitive touch within the door/window frame now. You have no idea it's there until you touch it and it lights up.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Apr 6, 2021

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



STR posted:

Ford still has that stuff AFAIK, it's just capacitive touch within the door/window frame now. You have no idea it's there until you touch it and it lights up.

Or you look at the fingerprints on the window frame and see which buttons they're pressing. :getin:

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
I go through a car wash after every time I unlock my car

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Midjack posted:

Or you look at the fingerprints on the window frame and see which buttons they're pressing. :getin:

You press 7/8 9/0 at the same time to lock the car. That leaves 3 other buttons to use to make a 5 digit code that can't be cracked by Catherine Zeta-Jones.

:smug:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Zero One posted:

You press 7/8 9/0 at the same time to lock the car. That leaves 3 other buttons to use to make a 5 digit code that can't be cracked by Catherine Zeta-Jones.

:smug:

Catherine Zeta-Jones doesn't need a code or key for access.

...escaping on the otherhand

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

madeintaipei posted:

Auto proximity locks caused a bit of a problem for me once. I was working out of an SUV/trailer combination in a secure facility where they had a grounds-keeper who would test your doors and snitch on you if they were unlocked. No one else gave a flying gently caress, but he would report you to the highest authority there so they didn't have a choice but to gently caress with you about it. I had to sit there with the manual and figure out how to disable that feature while backed up to a door with people waiting on me.

Amusingly, that facility poo poo-canned the guy but I ran into him in a non-secure area of another high-security location months later. He stopped to take pictures of my truck while my point of contact and I were exchanging pleasantries. I walked over and batted the phone out of his hand. He didn't say a word, while my POC just stood there and laughed at him. Don't be an dickweed to your co-workers.
So he was annoying, and you got violent?

I mean, I agree, he sounds obnoxious, and don't be a dickweed to your coworkers, but ... wtf?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



madeintaipei posted:

Auto proximity locks caused a bit of a problem for me once. I was working out of an SUV/trailer combination in a secure facility where they had a grounds-keeper who would test your doors and snitch on you if they were unlocked. No one else gave a flying gently caress, but he would report you to the highest authority there so they didn't have a choice but to gently caress with you about it. I had to sit there with the manual and figure out how to disable that feature while backed up to a door with people waiting on me.

Amusingly, that facility poo poo-canned the guy but I ran into him in a non-secure area of another high-security location months later. He stopped to take pictures of my truck while my point of contact and I were exchanging pleasantries. I walked over and batted the phone out of his hand. He didn't say a word, while my POC just stood there and laughed at him. Don't be an dickweed to your co-workers.

Why the hell would a "secure facility" let some maintenance jerkoff open personal vehicles for kicks? That sounds like instafire or even jail if it was a government building.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

My best keys locked in the car story isn't even pertaining to me really. I worked at a place next to a Budget Rent-a-Car, the dude that worked as the porter (small location with only one guy) had an early 80s corolla, thing was mint. He'd always be out dusting it or wiping the wheels or what have you when I walked by for lunch. We chatted a few times, I've got an 83 Supra of which the key to is original and essentially flat on both sides due to wear, so the old Toyota connection was there. Walking to lunch one day I see him in the parking lot with a coat hanger trying to jimmy the driver door lock through the window.

Walked up, asked him how long he had been working on it, asked if I could give it a go. Took out my keys, put the Supra key in the lock and opened the door for him as easily as I would have with his own key. "This should do it", we talked a bit about the key and how it's funny how this kind of thing works sometimes. I promised I wouldn't steal it and we went about our days. The same key also works in my buddy's Starlet better than his own drat key does.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

When I had my first Civic, the keys for it worked on my roommate's Integra... and vice versa.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

To add to my keys locked in car story, this is what I looked like at the time.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Elviscat posted:

To add to my keys locked in car story, this is what I looked like at the time.



Thats a badass pic though

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

STR posted:


Ford still has that stuff AFAIK, it's just capacitive touch within the door/window frame now. You have no idea it's there until you touch it and it lights up.

On our 2017 lincoln it is still has rubber buttons that will probably rub off in a couple years since with keyless entry you still need to use the key pad. Nice work Lincoln.

That keypad did save my rear end one day though. Never would have heard the end of it from my better half.

Colostomy Bag fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Apr 8, 2021

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Colostomy Bag posted:

On our 2017 lincoln it is still has rubber buttons that will probably rub off in a couple years since with keyless entry you still need to use the key pad. Nice work Lincoln.

That keypad did save my rear end one day though. Never would have heard the end of it from my better half.

Are they user reprogrammable? And can make a longer sequence if required?

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
Since each key is for two numbers (0-1,2-3,4-5,6-7,8-9) your code is really only 5 digits deep. Also apparently, the keypads used to only look for the exact sequence of numbers it needs, and doesn't lock you out for typing junk in before it.

For example, if your code is 13531, you could type '223313531' and it would let you in. Since you don't have to hit 'enter' to submit after every unique code attempt, you can just keep rolling along trying numbers.

So, someone came up with a 350-digit (or something absurdly short) button press sequence that would encompass all possible combinations, like electronic lockpicking. Not sure if Ford has clamped down on inputs since then but... Yeah.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Those 2-numbers-per-button keypads made me lol since I first saw them as a kid in like the early 80s. They've just never changed them have they, just kept installing the c. 1977 part with a new skin on it.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Humphreys posted:

Are they user reprogrammable? And can make a longer sequence if required?

Maybe with forscan. Old days they were built into the infamous GEM.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
Speedbumps should be illegal.

Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

Colostomy Bag posted:

Maybe with forscan. Old days they were built into the infamous GEM.

No need to use forscan these days, you can set it from the infotainment system.

It has anti-scan now.

quote:

The keypad goes into an anti-scan mode
if you enter the wrong code seven times.
This mode turns off the keypad for one
minute and the keypad lamp flashes.
The anti-scan feature turns off after any
of the following occur:
• One minute of keypad inactivity.
• You press the unlock button on the
remote control.
• You switch your vehicle on.
• You unlock the vehicle using intelligent
access.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Buff Hardback posted:

No need to use forscan these days, you can set it from the infotainment system.

It has anti-scan now.

Speaking of scanning, that excerpt is almost iambic pentameter, if you squint.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Colostomy Bag posted:

On our 2017 lincoln it is still has rubber buttons that will probably rub off in a couple years since with keyless entry you still need to use the key pad. Nice work Lincoln.

That keypad did save my rear end one day though. Never would have heard the end of it from my better half.

Those Goonzquad guys are rebuilding a 2019 F150 Raptor and it still has the rubber buttons.

Raymond T. Racing
Jun 11, 2019

dissss posted:

Those Goonzquad guys are rebuilding a 2019 F150 Raptor and it still has the rubber buttons.

For some reason, Ford has decided that the "grrrrr trucks" models get the rubber keypads, not the integrated into piano black ones that aren't going to wear out.

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coupedeville
Jan 1, 2012

MY ANACONDA DOM'T WANT NONE UNLESS U GOT CUM SON!
Ford will continue to put the keypad on as long as boomers still exist because it is a feature that sells cars.

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