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catlord posted:God, I want to know the story of how they ended up with that name, it's just such a bad, dumb name that sometimes the name comes to mind, unprompted, and I can't help but laugh. The 'Batman v Superman' makes it sound like a court drama, the 'Dawn of Justice' sounds goofy as gently caress, put them together and it sounds even sillier. Please tell me, WB Execs, why did you think this title would go over swimmingly? I remember somewhere someone was defending the use of "v." instead of "vs." saying it was actually the correct abbreviation. "Dawn of Justice" just comes off as pretentious though. It's as bad as "Age of Ultron". Ultron only existed for like, what, a week? Hell of an "Age". Davros1 fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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They should have called it Batman Against the Superman
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John Wick of Dogs posted:They should have called it
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No no no! Gotta fit "Man of Steel" in there to keep your titles consistent! The Bat of Gotham Against the Superman, Who is The Man of Steel
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Davros1 posted:I remember somewhere someone was defending the use of "v." instead of "vs." saying it was actually the correct abbreviation. Considering King Kong vs Godzilla was '62, I think the ship's long sailed on "v." vs. "vs." I'm not sure where "v." has held on, outside of court cases and the like. At least Age of Ultron was named after a comic arc, what's Dawn of Justice's excuse?
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Davros1 posted:I remember somewhere someone was defending the use of "v." instead of "vs." saying it was actually the correct abbreviation. I recall one argument being "v" can also mean And.
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I actually rewatched King Kong Vs Godzilla the other day and let me tell you despite my complaints about GvK at least it's not King Kong Vs Godzilla
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That's a fascinating interview. It's hard to evaluate a writer working in blockbuster films because the end product goes through so many revisions and is touched by so many people that to make a declarative statement about the skills of a writer based entirely on the finished film is difficult. You don't know what edicts they had to stick to and how their script got changed in the process of shooting and editing and this interview provides a rare insight into that process. Chris Terrio has been credited on two films that I consider to have the among the worst writing in a blockbuster film of the last five years; Batman v Superman (and yes, I include the Ultimate Edition which is while better than the theatrical still exemplary of how not to structure character and story) and Rise of Skywalker. It does seem like being a writer on one of these films is a thankless loving task - all the people who demand changes or add dumb notes don't have to live with the reputation of the fallout. It makes me really keen to see Argo, as that's a film he clearly takes pride in and I would like to see it just to get a better appreciation of his work. But what is clear, and what stands out, is how much there just isn't a basic understanding of what drama and storytelling is at the executive level of these companies. This isn't news of course, but that interview does starkly lay it out. I don't know if Terrio is a good writer who got hosed over in the system, or a bad writer who none-the-less was cut off at the knees by the process but it is depressing how writers are often seen as essentially there to translate a bunch of notes and focus groups results into a screenplay as opposed to crafting a story. Karloff fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Blockhouse posted:I actually rewatched King Kong Vs Godzilla the other day and let me tell you despite my complaints about GvK at least it's not King Kong Vs Godzilla I don't what version you watched but I think the Japanese one is a decent film. The American re-edit is pretty bad though.
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TwoPair posted:Oh, ha, I didn't actually expect anything in the movie (nor do I want it really), I just thought you were saying it was lame when goons post about that... which it is, but it's still hilarious to me. It'll be cool to see that animation style mixed in with the others when he visits Miles' universe or whatever
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Blockhouse posted:I actually rewatched King Kong Vs Godzilla the other day and let me tell you despite my complaints about GvK at least it's not King Kong Vs Godzilla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXgDT5GMRY
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Karloff posted:I don't what version you watched but I think the Japanese one is a decent film. The American re-edit is pretty bad though. I watched the American one with the awful cut-ins that remind you that until the 70's most American sci-fi movies were just white dudes in rooms talking about the monster/alien/ghost/whatever instead of actually doing anything with it Still, even excising those from my memory the movie still ends up being mostly King Kong on a raft while Godzilla has some pretty tepid rampages compared to the prior two movies and the Kong suit looks like hot garbage no matter how you slice it One of the few great memorable bits of the movie. For people who haven't seen Kong vs Godzilla this is from the only time the two actually fight, which is the last nine minutes of the movie
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Aphrodite posted:They are doing that. I thought the sale of Fox killed the Buffy reboot.
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X-O posted:https://twitter.com/CBR/status/1379560864198623235 I have been pissed off for 25 years about that and no I'm not going to actually look up when it aired
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CapnAndy posted:FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THA'TS HOLY RESOLVE THE GOD DAMNED MOTHER loving MARY JANE CLIFFHANGER It gets revealed that Mary Jane was a mermaid all along and had to get back to the ocean.
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X-O posted:https://twitter.com/CBR/status/1379560864198623235 He is the canon Spider-man. SlimGoodbody posted:I'm reasonably ambivalent to Snyder and his Cut these days, but I am actively repulsed by everything about Joss Whedon, so now I want to get a hashtag going that makes Marvel release the Snyder cut for Age of Ultron. Just have Snyder reshoot and recut everything Whedon has done in his mediocre life and erase him from public memory. No.
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I didn't view the end of Spider-Man as a cliffhanger. Mary Jane had been lost for like half a season by then. At the end when Madame Web is like "Now let's go find her" I view that more as a statement that they WILL find her and everything will be alright, and how isn't that important.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:He's mainly happy about the ZSJL being out and the BvS: Ultimate being out because whatever problems people have with them they were actual substantive criticisms of his work instead of criticisms of what someone else mutated his work to. I keep wondering what Zack Sabre Jr. has to do with all of this.
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Don't know what made me think of this but if Green Lantern had been a successful series I guess we would have had Ryan Reynolds in Zack Snyder's Justice League? Seems like that'd be a weird fit.
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Vince MechMahon posted:If Green Lantern had been a hit we probably would never have gotten any of Snyder's stuff. Why? Snyder was already working on Man of Steel when GL came out.
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Lobok posted:Why? Snyder was already working on Man of Steel when GL came out. I don't think they would have given him the full keys to the kingdom, and I bet they would have insisted on reshoots to get it more in line with their foundational cinematic universe movie, Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. They'd make him add a bunch of fart jokes or whatever and he'd never come back.
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Vince MechMahon posted:I don't think they would have given him the full keys to the kingdom, and I bet they would have insisted on reshoots to get it more in line with their foundational cinematic universe movie, Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern. They'd make him add a bunch of fart jokes or whatever and he'd never come back. I mean, if it was DC's Iron Man in terms of success and appeal then I could see that. I wasn't really thinking of that level of success, just at least successful enough to continue instead of being a laughing stock and persona non grata in DC's other films.
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Lobok posted:I mean, if it was DC's Iron Man in terms of success and appeal then I could see that. I wasn't really thinking of that level of success, just at least successful enough to continue instead of being a laughingstock and persona non grata in DC's other films. I think it still would have gotten memory holed unless it was iron Man levels cause Reynolds also didn't really seem to like making it, by all counts. He apparently only even watched it for the first time recently.
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Davros1 posted:I remember somewhere someone was defending the use of "v." instead of "vs." saying it was actually the correct abbreviation. The Age of Ultron is actually referring to Tony’s vindication and actions influencing the ideology of his acolytes who will enforce his technological autocracy on a post-post-snap world.
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Lobok posted:Don't know what made me think of this but if Green Lantern had been a successful series I guess we would have had Ryan Reynolds in Zack Snyder's Justice League? Seems like that'd be a weird fit. We would have had Ryan Reynolds in George Miller's(yay!) Justice League starring Armie Hammer(yikes!) as Superman. But Fury Road wouldn't exist.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:We would have had Ryan Reynolds in George Miller's(yay!) Justice League starring Armie Hammer(yikes!) as Superman. Hammer was Batman. I know he had a Superman cast too, but I don't remember who it was.
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I don't know why it just hit me now but all the Ray Fisher stuff finally made me realize why War Machine and Falcon weren't on the team in Age of Ultron. It also explains why Gunn and Fred broke up on Angel and their relationship was never spoken of again.
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Ehh, characters break up all the time on TV for badly-written reasons. Fred and Gunn on the outs wasn't even the most egregious case on that show specifically, much less all the even dumber instances of awkward splits across the CW and on other networks. "This creator being bad must be the reason for this bad plot" is an understandable impression, but a sketchy one nonetheless.
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Didn’t literally every single couple on both Buffy and Angel end badly through either breakups or death? Except for Riley and his wife? Edit: I guess Kennedy and willow sort of survived the series, but honestly that’s even more of a tragedy. Old Kentucky Shark fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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Like, the Whedonverse's racial mores were periodically sketchy too but, honestly, if we're really gonna link creator and creation in that way, a much easier target is him being adamant that every single one of his couples ends up unhappy, no matter what, whether it made any sense or not, which probably says something about his own personal...relationship...inclinations. I mean. Y'know. If we're gonna do that. 
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I mean if you’re going to bag on Whedon for anything relationshipwise it should probably be Xander and Dawn canonically becoming a couple after the finale.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Didn’t literally every single couple on both Buffy and Angel end badly through either breakups or death? Got bad news about real life.
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