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MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

this is functionally indistinct from ArfJason coming into a thread and posting "CSPAM having a normal one again lmao"

I’ll come back later with 1000 words of poignant insight into what it’s like in Modern American Medicine treating people with BMIs 35-40+.

Spoiler: they’re all fuckin’ yocked, bro.

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Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
My city's whole district is moving to fully remote again for ten days and parents are freaking out because teachers are all vaccinated :lmao:

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Paradoxish posted:

My city's whole district is moving to fully remote again for ten days and parents are freaking out because teachers are all vaccinated :lmao:

America really loves alternating between calling them heroes and lazy

Forseti
May 26, 2001
To the lovenasium!

MadJackal posted:

I’ll come back later with 1000 words of poignant insight into what it’s like in Modern American Medicine treating people with BMIs 35-40+.

Spoiler: they’re all fuckin’ yocked, bro.

But if they're rich enough you can just give them a cocktail of statins to keep their numbers in the safe zone and keep them going for decades!

Ever wonder why old lovely hate monster ghouls in congress live for loving ever? You're welcome, ingrates :colbert:

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
used different them in my rectal it's 103 but also I was yelling in bed a lot moving my feet bc body pain in legs joints and chest

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Like we’re talking every day is leg day, gym is my temple and my swole spotters are my disciples jacked.

Just rippin’ skull crushers.

Just rippin' forced reps

Just rippin' anti-gravity press.

Just rippin' Advanced Kettlebell Windmill.

Just rippin' barbell half-squats.

Just rippin' drop sets.

Just rippin' Swiss ball jackknifes.

Just rippin' silly animal stacks

ALL. DAY. LONG.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

inferis posted:

America really loves alternating between calling them heroes and lazy

It's especially hilarious because the district isn't even letting them work from home. They all have to pointlessly drive into school so they can sit in classrooms by themselves and teach.

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


Paradoxish posted:

My city's whole district is moving to fully remote again for ten days and parents are freaking out because teachers are all vaccinated :lmao:

Puerto Rico just closed all of it's schools again for two weeks. I think people are taking it well so far. They were only open for kids over 6 years old for a month or so.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster
lmao wait til they get the Biden emails

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

It owns that Americans are too stupid to live

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
madjackal having a meltdown and calling goons fat.

is every doctor this big a loser?

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Iron Crowned posted:

It owns that Americans are too stupid to live

Cases have stabilized. The 7-day average has remained steady for the past two weeks despite numerous states opening up.

Hospitalizations had a small blip up but are only slightly higher than their low last October. Not exactly an alarming increase like it was in April and November last year.

Deaths are continuing to decrease and are approaching their lows of last summer.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

SKULL.GIF posted:

beloved liberal institution ProPublica brags about forcing schools to stay open

notice how the preview image prominently features people who are not white

https://twitter.com/propublica/status/1380264883170766863
oh my god gently caress this guy for real

some lines from the original article lol i'm going to end up quoting the whole absurd loving article

https://www.propublica.org/article/my-kids-school-closed-again-so-i-started-calling-experts

"The first time it happened, I didn’t wonder about the rationale. Everything has been crazy during COVID-19. And despite more than 25,000 deaths, New York City, with the country’s largest public school system by far, was way ahead of most other cities in opening up schools."

"I’m lucky enough to be able to work from home. But I couldn’t concentrate. Our kids needed help. And I just could not get my mind off the rule, which mandates closure for two cases regardless of the school’s size or if, as has happened in my school, the two cases are kids grades apart who never cross paths. What, I wondered, do people who’ve studied schools and COVID-19 think of that?

So amid meltdowns, moping (mostly mine) and minimal learning, I started reaching out to doctors and scientists suggested by my colleagues who cover COVID-19. I asked three questions: What do they think of the rule? Is there a better way? And how do the vast racial disparities in COVID-19’s impact — and in families’ willingness to send their children back into school buildings — inform their thinking about where to draw the lines?"

"So, what do scientists think of the two-case rule? “Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Wow. New York City schools are making a mistake,” said Dr. Elissa Schechter-Perkins, an epidemiologist and infectious diseases doctor at Boston University School of Medicine. Schechter-Perkins and her colleagues recently garnered epidemiological fame after finding that schools can reduce spacing in classrooms from 6 feet to 3 feet, a conclusion that caused the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to change its guidelines."
lol

"They were almost all, it should be noted, talking to me while dealing with school-age kids at home too."

"As the CDC recently summed it up, “In-person learning in schools has not been associated with substantial community transmission.”"

"After New York City, with about 1 million students in its system, took the leap last fall and reopened schools, most families kept their kids at home. A disproportionate percentage of families who have chosen to return, like mine, have been white.

The majority of students in the city’s public schools aren’t white, and with the pandemic hitting many Black, Hispanic and Asian neighborhoods especially hard, families from those communities have been less likely to opt for in-school instruction.

One of the experts I spoke to about that was Dr. Uché Blackstock, a former professor at New York University, who now runs a firm focused on addressing racial inequities in health care."

“That rule drives me crazy,” she told me. “It’s ridiculous. Obviously ridiculous. All I can say is we should use an evidence-based science and equity lens.”

"The vast majority of positive cases, she explained, get tracked to transmission outside the school. “We’ve had a couple of cases of in-school transmission,” Ciaranello said. “We investigate, sometimes close the school for a day and find, say, two people who were unmasked for a lengthy period of time together.”" lol

my name is Eric Umansky and I hate my kids (also your kids)
____________/

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

You're ignoring is that there is a real cost to staying shut down, both psychologically and materially, for millions of people. At some point the benefit of staying shut down becomes less than what it costs. I am arguing it is not a reasonable position to keep restrictions in place when vaccines are available (or will be shortly) to the vast majority of adults, and children have an incredibly low hospitalization and mortality rate.

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

“It’s ridiculous. Obviously ridiculous. All I can say is we should use an evidence-based science and equity lens.”

they really really really want non-white kids to catch covid and die god drat

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015



love 2 social distance and mask

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

inferis posted:

You're ignoring is that there is a real cost to staying shut down, both psychologically and materially, for millions of people. At some point the benefit of staying shut down becomes less than what it costs. I am arguing it is not a reasonable position to keep restrictions in place when vaccines are available (or will be shortly) to the vast majority of adults, and children have an incredibly low hospitalization and mortality rate.

get a load of this guy

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

I am saying that despite multiple states being fully open for a month, and many others easing restrictions, we are actually in a much better situation than we were this past fall. And things will continue to get better now that vaccines are going full steam ahead.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

inferis posted:

I am saying that despite multiple states being fully open for a month, and many others easing restrictions, we are actually in a much better situation than we were this past fall. And things will continue to get better now that vaccines are going full steam ahead.

Mods?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

You are right who cares about dead and maimed children

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Time for my second jab.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Bro those eggs are yolked

Stevie Lee
Oct 8, 2007

inferis posted:

I am saying that despite multiple states being fully open for a month, and many others easing restrictions, we are actually in a much better situation than we were this past fall. And things will continue to get better now that vaccines are going full steam ahead.

https://i.imgur.com/qeGT5pz.mp4

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


I think the most compelling reason I ever heard for opening schools up was a high school teacher who said two of her students committed suicide last Spring, from depression induced by the isolation. That doesn't mean Open Biden is a good strategy (it isn't), but COVID is just another manifestation of how adept this lovely country is at propagating depression and atomization.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


euphronius posted:

You are right who cares about dead and maimed children
hard to get any labor out them at that point

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

I have a solution for the cruise line industry, let's make Jeff Bezos purchase all of the massive cruise chips in existence in America and convert them to hospital ships that sail around the world providing free healthcare to anyone who needs it forever.

This would consume roughly 10-15% of Jeff Bezos' net worth.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Nichael posted:

I think the most compelling reason I ever heard for opening schools up was a high school teacher who said two of her students committed suicide last Spring, from depression induced by the isolation. That doesn't mean Open Biden is a good strategy (it isn't), but COVID is just another manifestation of how adept this lovely country is at propagating depression and atomization.

yeah even more reason to do a real lockdown back in march instead of drawing this out as long as we possibly can, just edging with the coronavirus

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

bro they are outside its fine

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Thesaurus posted:

Puerto Rico just closed all of it's schools again for two weeks. I think people are taking it well so far. They were only open for kids over 6 years old for a month or so.

Parents here really didn't take it well when we shut down for ~2 months back at the beginning of the year and they're extremely not happy now. I have a feeling we're going to follow the pattern we did back then and end up closing for a whole month or the rest of the school year.

The problem is that they did pretty much everything they could to stay open. Half of our high school has been remote for more than a month now due to rolling quarantines, and they just can't seem to get it under control. The district still insists that there's no spread occurring in schools and it makes me want to scream because maybe they could actually figure out a goddamn solution if they stopped loving sticking their heads in the sand.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

inferis posted:

You're ignoring is that there is a real cost to staying shut down, both psychologically and materially, for millions of people. At some point the benefit of staying shut down becomes less than what it costs. I am arguing it is not a reasonable position to keep restrictions in place when vaccines are available (or will be shortly) to the vast majority of adults, and children have an incredibly low hospitalization and mortality rate.

the funny thing about this is if you're going to give every parent the real chance to get a shot + followup shot + some immunity time that takes you past the end of the school year

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


SKULL.GIF posted:

beloved liberal institution ProPublica brags about forcing schools to stay open

notice how the preview image prominently features people who are not white

https://twitter.com/propublica/status/1380264883170766863

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015



missed a few


gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

SKULL.GIF posted:

Time for my second jab.

stay alive!

salient
Jan 2, 2021

Pingui posted:

Someone talked about menstruation as it relates to getting vaccinated:

i filled out the survey + i'm looking forward to seeing the results from this!!

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


inferis posted:

Cases have stabilized. The 7-day average has remained steady for the past two weeks despite numerous states opening up.

Hospitalizations had a small blip up but are only slightly higher than their low last October. Not exactly an alarming increase like it was in April and November last year.

Deaths are continuing to decrease and are approaching their lows of last summer.

please don't blind quote dnd and get this thread shut down

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

brugroffil posted:

please don't blind quote dnd and get this thread shut down

sorry

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Hexigrammus posted:

Maybe it only existed in the mind of a paleolithic pornmeister?

Well, I mean it obviously did. But there are many similar models and the striking bit is how they catch the fat distribution correctly. Were I to venture a guess, people living in the Northern hemisphere probably yo-yo'ed a fair amount in weight depending on season. Anyways, it isn't really relevant to the irrelevant BMI derail.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


i figured

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brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


I say we abandon any sense of a precautionary principle and instead embrace a nurturing principle, helping the virus to grow and truly spread its wings. Who are we to deny another life form its right to exist and prosper? Is not a virus also entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

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