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lightpole posted:You should probably read up on the US merchant marine. That reminds me of the time my dad told me a story about being at some place with his father circa 1960ish and a marine wwii vet telling my grandfather, in USAF uniform, that he wasn’t a “real” veteran and then doubled down after my grandfather said he was a glider pilot in Europe. edit: grandpa would’ve been active duty at the time so I guess “real soldier” but whatever
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Apr 9, 2021 20:13
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People just want to gatekeep. Edit: half the fun of being in your own little club is telling others they don't make the cut for X obscure reason. lightpole fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 20:24
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Campaign medal is for service in theater, not direct combat. There are a lot of other awards for that and a whole bunch of sour britches from CABs handed out in Iraq and Afghanistan a decade ago. I just learned I'm getting both OIR and Afghanistan campaign medals for... flying in vaguely the same geographical area as those places. A few times we even flew close enough to see land! I'm glad this proves to the VFW how combat experienced I am. Naturally the time we spent evacuating Somalia, which was way more along the lines of actual combat missions than anything else we did, counts for nothing.
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Apr 9, 2021 20:43
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I knew a major on deployment that I'd see monthly when he picked up or dropped off his truck. They (his E4/5 in tow) were based in Kuwait and flew into Iraq for 2-4 days a month for reasons that allowed them to be eligible for the campaign medal. They'd fly into Balad, drive around base for a few days, then fly back to kuwait for 3.5 weeks. He was in supply somewhere and could always make poo poo magically appear for us, so we took care of his truck in turn for monthly Santa visits.
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Apr 9, 2021 20:50
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Wonder if my ANG buddies who deployed to Djibouti are considered GWOT vets according to the VFW.
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Apr 9, 2021 20:53
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I think it's OCONUS service now so Germany, Japan, Korea, etc. E: their website has some expired poo poo but here's the relevant part from their own broke cookie batch quote:3: Service in a war, campaign, or expedition on foreign soil or in hostile waters*. This can be proven by any of the following: http://www.vfw.org/join/eligibility CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 9, 2021 20:54
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lightpole posted:People just want to gatekeep. merchant marines from ww2 is a completely different situation from being in the merchant marines during the wars in iraq/afghanistan unless Iraq has a submarine fleet conducting unrestricted warfare that I didn't know anything about
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Apr 9, 2021 20:59
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Like I'm not sure what you've done that makes you think you should qualify for belonging in a community for vets that fought overseas.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:01
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PookBear posted:Like I'm not sure what you've done that makes you think you should qualify for belonging in a community for vets that fought overseas. Again, my GWOT Expeditionary Medal from Kuwait qualifies.  https://i.imgur.com/0aYhB8S.mp4 🔊
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Apr 9, 2021 21:06
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lol my man if you want to join the VFW so bad just get an MOS that will deploy you overseas in support of ongoing operations
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Apr 9, 2021 21:08
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The American Legion and VFW suck, I don't see why you'd join them at this point TBH.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:09
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PookBear posted:Like I'm not sure what you've done that makes you think you should qualify for belonging in a community for vets that fought overseas. I've never claimed this? There's a line somewhere in the Persian gulf but that place is hot and I'm not bothering. WWII USMM were what I was talking about and are still excluded. I have no reason or desire.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:13
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So this is blowing up: (Carl Bildt, former PM, and former minister for foreign affairs of Sweden) April 9th is also the anniversary of Nazi-Germany invading Denmark and Norway (and Vidkun Quisling seizing power in Norway). https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1380469886007316484?s=20 He is also taking shots at the Finns in the comments. In case he deletes it: 
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Apr 9, 2021 21:19
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Stultus Maximus posted:They limit it to combat veterans only? if you have an expeditionary medal you qualify. so anyone who was on a sub and went on a westpac or whatever the east coast ones are can get in.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:22
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PookBear posted:merchant marines from ww2 is a completely different situation from being in the merchant marines during the wars in iraq/afghanistan unless Iraq has a submarine fleet conducting unrestricted warfare that I didn't know anything about Pretty sure that was in Colin Powell's briefing to the UN.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:24
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Stellar Curiosity posted:So this is blowing up: (Carl Bildt, former PM, and former minister for foreign affairs of Sweden) Must be nice being in a country where you and your neighbors have their poo poo together enough that this is what time can be put towards
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Apr 9, 2021 21:25
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:lol my man if you want to join the VFW so bad just get an MOS that will deploy you overseas in support of ongoing operations Just join the masons and have better social connects. Or do the masons not exist in the form I remember.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:26
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Just join the masons and have better social connects. Masons, Elks, Caribou, Knights of Columbus if that's your thing.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:27
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Just join the masons and have better social connects. This is the masons now. Internet foundation right here *pats thread*
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Apr 9, 2021 21:28
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Just join the masons and have better social connects. I was a mason and all I got was a secret handshake, an apron, and a bunch of volunteer hours at the local food bank. My lodge was mostly geriatric dudes hiding from their wives on a Wednesday night.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:30
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My former father-in-law was/is a mason. And he wondered why I wanted nothing to do with them. Not trying to stand around a night a week in service to the old guy who owns the dry cleaners.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:35
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lightpole posted:People just want to gatekeep. From my experiences, years ago being an OEF vet was looked down on by OIF vets. This is mostly why I don't talk to most vets, even though I don't think it's like this anymore. Everyone just wants to feel special I guess.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:43
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I'm pretty entertained that pook comes along and pulls a VFW and completely misses the joke.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:44
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https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs...ingawful.com%2F Pretty sure it's larger than any of trumps DoD budgets but sure okay
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Apr 9, 2021 21:48
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs...ingawful.com%2F 2021: the acceleration is negative! 2022: the snap is negative!! 2023: the crack is negative!!!
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Apr 9, 2021 21:51
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs...ingawful.com%2F DoD number only go up
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Apr 9, 2021 21:51
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Pretty sure it's larger than any of trumps DoD budgets but sure okay It's making everyone mad because it's a cut in the growth increase and he wants to kill off the OCO slush fund. Meanwhile, it's not a full-blown cut to the base defense budget. It at least will be entertaining as to what comes out of Congress.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:53
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lightpole posted:I've never claimed this? There's a line somewhere in the Persian gulf but that place is hot and I'm not bothering. WWII USMM were what I was talking about and are still excluded. I have no reason or desire. you never once said anything about ww2 lol
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Apr 9, 2021 21:56
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:He was in supply somewhere and could always make poo poo magically appear for us, so we took care of his truck in turn for monthly Santa visits. The magic is knowing a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy and always treating those people well. Seeing what kind of crazy poo poo you can get for people was the most fun part of having a logistics job. I'm most proud of getting a bus in less than an hour (you usually have to request them 30+ days out) and using it to get our BN's Soldiers a break from the field during several back to back training exercises.
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Apr 9, 2021 21:59
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lol imagine never serving overseas 
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Apr 9, 2021 22:04
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Stellar Curiosity posted:So this is blowing up: (Carl Bildt, former PM, and former minister for foreign affairs of Sweden) Why would Germany have invaded Sweden? They were already getting iron ore imports, allowed to move troops through Swedish territory, and Allied occupation of Sweden wasn't likely. Especially after Barbarossa I don't think Germany was eager to start another front with a peaceful trading partner.
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Apr 9, 2021 22:11
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maybe they meant russia? idk, it doesn't make sense to me either
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Apr 9, 2021 22:12
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:I think it's OCONUS service now so Germany, Japan, Korea, etc. Sweet I got a week or two of imminent danger pay. Skate on through.
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Apr 9, 2021 22:39
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lightpole posted:You should probably read up on the US merchant marine. The WWII museum in New Orleans had an amazing merchant marine exhibit when I was there a few years ago.
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Apr 9, 2021 22:41
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That'll have to go on the list if and when I ever make it back to the states.
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Apr 9, 2021 22:45
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ded posted:if you have an expeditionary medal you qualify. so anyone who was on a sub and went on a westpac or whatever the east coast ones are can get in. My comment was in response to pook saying that it's only for people who fought.
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Apr 9, 2021 22:49
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Any “club” that is catered towards military people is probably not worth visiting. Just look at gip.
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Apr 9, 2021 22:51
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boop the snoot posted:Any “club” that is catered towards military people is probably not worth visiting. And yet here we all are.
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Apr 9, 2021 23:02
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VFWs at Osan and Humphreys are pretty chill. Somehow still cheapest places to get beer and also not considered bars so they haven't been shut down due to COVID. My 11+ years of Korea time get me a cool hat.
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Apr 9, 2021 23:15
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Hekk posted:And yet here we all are. And I think we’re done talking about the VFW.
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