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genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Grapplejack posted:

Fun fact: the peace corps has an explicit rule where if you ever worked for the cia or the nsa in any capacity or had family that worked for the cia you are banned from working with them

Funnily enough this rule applies in reverse; the CIA / NSA won't take you if you worked for the peace corps

Is that the NED rule this guy came up with

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

genericnick posted:

Is that the NED rule this guy came up with


Iirc the CIA hates the peace corps for that specific policy because "it makes them look like bad guys" lol

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Grapplejack posted:

Iirc the CIA hates the peace corps for that specific policy because "it makes them look like bad guys" lol

lol everyone already knows the CIA are the bad guys outside of the us

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/1380481964805914627?s=19

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

facebook link to the photos from the official Ukranian account, since comments are calling it fake
https://www.facebook.com/pressjfo.news/photos/pcb.1094924784333470/1094915121001103

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
edit: wrong thread

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Grapplejack posted:

Fun fact: the peace corps has an explicit rule where if you ever worked for the cia or the nsa in any capacity or had family that worked for the cia you are banned from working with them

Funnily enough this rule applies in reverse; the CIA / NSA won't take you if you worked for the peace corps

:yooge: I never worked for the CIA I worked for the State Dept/Dept of Homeland Security

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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FBI as a cover is popular too if the person isn't particularly believable as a State Dept employee. The FBI is generally less than thrilled.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Cerebral Bore posted:

not like the us needs a reason to wave its dick around

The US is trying to recruit India as an ally, it doesn't seem like a particularly brilliant move.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Ardennes posted:

The US is trying to recruit India as an ally, it doesn't seem like a particularly brilliant move.

maybe it was intended to send a “this could have been China” message

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Rutibex posted:

how much freedom did they have when hong kong was a british colony? for some reason i don't think the crown would let people vote away the british governor

"Hong Kong didn't have universal suffrage under Britain either!" is a common argument, but that's only the case because the CCP repeatedly threatened to invade Hong Kong if they were ever given universal suffrage. Britain did the war math and decided they couldn't defend the city if that happened.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
The British wanted to give their imperial colony democracy and self-determination but China wouldn't let them is a good take

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

paul_soccer12 posted:

The British wanted to give their imperial colony democracy and self-determination but China wouldn't let them is a good take

Not sure if this is sarcasm, we still have the cables:

https://qz.com/279013/the-secret-history-of-hong-kongs-stillborn-democracy/

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It makes sense that the PRC probably wouldn't look kindly at Hong Kong being dominion status, since it would essentially be creating the nucleus of what would be a separate sovereign state on what the PRC considers its territory.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Ardennes posted:

The US is trying to recruit India as an ally, it doesn't seem like a particularly brilliant move.

No, this is classic example of different branches of US governments don't talk to each other. Same reason the US trade branch is threatening to label Taiwan a currency manipulator, I will burst out a lol if this happen.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

stephenthinkpad posted:

No, this is classic example of different branches of US governments don't talk to each other. Same reason the US trade branch is threatening to label Taiwan a currency manipulator, I will burst out a lol if this happen.

sorry this is the eurasia thread. we don’t need to talk about america. nice whataboutism

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


whataboutism is truly the great enemy of our times.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1380712068043603972?s=20

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Ardennes posted:

The US is trying to recruit India as an ally, it doesn't seem like a particularly brilliant move.

I don't know it was probably done to show the US is standing up for a principle of Freedom of Navigation and not just targeting it's enemies.

Some staffers in DC are probably feeling pretty smug right now, thinking they have gained some sort of moral high ground over China.

Of course India is probably pissed off and no one else in the world believes it and the American people don't care.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

did you all forget about the drama the US is making about the Indian acquisition of the S-400

https://twitter.com/BloombergQuint/status/1379460136142569473?s=20
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1350145716233134083?s=20
https://twitter.com/Geeta_Mohan/status/1379393002548781067?s=20

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

US is also trying to foist its planes on India as an alternative to European and Russian ones.

It's not that anyone forgot, it's that it doesn't make sense to use a stick instead of a carrot with India.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Southpaugh posted:

whataboutism is truly the great enemy of our times.

it’s just a fundamentally flawed concept that has the purpose to divorce context from political discussion

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
The US India relationship is basically what I call US trying to not trip over herself to court India. It doesn't mean India is close to become an US "ally". Non aligned policy is basic building block of Indian's foreign policy since the founding of the modern India, it's not about to change by one populist leader. The Indian system is setup this way. For example, India has a funny weapon aqucition system that they buy weapons from everybody (outside of China), if Modi gets too close to the US, he will face resistance inside military that buys European and Russian weapons. India buy huge amount of weapons from Russia, and the US simply doesn't have offering in the same price range. That's just one easy example.

And India joining the Quad is just India keeping the option open to keep China in check. Quad doesn't even have regular annual summit. And the US throwing the Johnson Johnson vaccine deal into the last Quad summit is a joke. It makes no sense to put it inside the Quad talk but US had to sweeten the Quad package for India. Its not like India desperately need the low tech Johnson vaccine from the US. Russia already gave the Sputnik vaccine to India to manufacture. India already manufacture the AZ vaccine and use it for her own vaccine diplomacy. So you see this is essentially how India do things, she will dance and flirt with every guy on the flood, to get the maximum amount of gifts from everybody. And the studs (US/Europe/Russia/Japan) all happy do the dance and sell India quality tech/weapon because unlike selling technology to China, selling tech to India is really at no risk of said tech being reverse engineered or copied and become your major competitor in 5 years.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 08:42 on Apr 10, 2021

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

THS posted:

it’s just a fundamentally flawed concept that has the purpose to divorce context from political discussion
people want to be a player in the game and also be a referee at the same time. it's like if the other team stopped the game and were messing with the rules, and you said "hey, you're not the referee, you're a rival team" and they went "well that's whataboutism"

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Ardennes posted:

The US is trying to recruit India as an ally, it doesn't seem like a particularly brilliant move.

have u ever taken a closer look at the people who've been running the us lately?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

people want to be a player in the game and also be a referee at the same time. it's like if the other team stopped the game and were messing with the rules, and you said "hey, you're not the referee, you're a rival team" and they went "well that's whataboutism"

well, isn’t it?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

people want to be a player in the game and also be a referee at the same time. it's like if the other team stopped the game and were messing with the rules, and you said "hey, you're not the referee, you're a rival team" and they went "well that's whataboutism"

it's like if the team you are on is openly cheating, and accusing other people of cheating, and then when someone points this out you start flipping out and accusing them of doing ad hominem attacks and "whataboutism". it's truly sick

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/27khv/status/1380595869687369735

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/ZeyiYang/status/1380567454024359937

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/johncarlbaker/status/1380570854040424449

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
from local social media:

quote:

China is your modern day Nazi

They need to be hit by earthquakes and wiped out. "Strong should not bully the weak" my rear end. Sovereignty? They only acknowledge it when convenient - you know, when it's about Taiwan and not our reefs 🙄

Take note that they are actually doing this intimidation during a pandemic, which they brought to the world. Such incredible assholes.

End of rant. Sorry, but gently caress Winnie the Pooh.

quote:

Remember that most citizens in china are also victims of the government. But when you say earthquakes I hope it hits where Pooh resides

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with their own version of manifest destiny aka new silk road initiative

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And no country bats an eye on uyghur situation.

quote:

Same thing happened during the Holocaust, nobody was taking action when the Nazis rounded up the Jews, the world only took action when Germany invaded Poland. Hope we wont end up like Poland.

quote:

Mainland chinese is the modern day equivalent of germans who believe in aryan race supremacy.

Some even believe that everything pre 1500 are made in china including the english language and that greek and roman histories are just legends.

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They are putting Uyghurs in camps, man! Holocaust survivors said it should not happen again! The Holocaust is happening again in China!

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Hitler just shaved his moustache and squinted—Xinnie the Pooh!

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I just hope we aren't modern day Czechoslovakia having no choice but to be annexed back then. Reminds me of a quote I read once: “In the 30s, the pessimists went to New York and the optimists went to Auschwitz.”

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

are they just making up the roman history thing

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth
White people comparing China to Nazi Germany is so 2021.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

This article does not include any link for any of the thing the author is talking about. How can I tell whether he is telling fact or making up poo poo like a proper Falun gong member?

Also

"In fact, according to an October 2020 post by a local court in the southwest city of Chongqing, the account of "Fanchen Jun" is operated by Lu Yang, a low-level propaganda official working at a prison in the municipality."

Somebody can figure out this sentnence? What "working at a prison?"

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Live streamer saved an Asian guy being robbed? in London. I just want to share because of Pepe.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFrea...tm_source=share

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

stephenthinkpad posted:

This article does not include any link for any of the thing the author is talking about. How can I tell whether he is telling fact or making up poo poo like a proper Falun gong member?

you can tell its a fact because he says shes being harassed why are you so sexist stephenthinkpad

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

fart simpson posted:

are they just making up the roman history thing

maybe it’s just the Chinese version of hollow earthers or Moon Landing deniers. I’d actually love to know what crazy conspiracies other cultures believe in

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

china has moon landing deniers

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
that’s not surprising but it doesn’t seem nearly as crazy as Americans denying it. at least they have ideological (and historical) reasons to disbelieve Americans

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

and theyll prove it too once china gets there

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