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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The important thing is libs could in theory get everything they want without actually having to do anything

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Raskolnikov38 posted:

yeah the big flaw of the withering away slavery plan was that southerners could read maps and then use their control of the federal government to annex more land as needed

also in the event that somehow they ran out of uses for slaves entirely, lol if you think the slave owners wouldn't just murder them

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Yinlock posted:

also in the event that somehow they ran out of uses for slaves entirely, lol if you think the slave owners wouldn't just murder them

There is always one final, profitable use for chattel slaves

quote:

The Zong massacre was a mass killing of more than 130 enslaved Africans by the crew of the British slave ship Zong on and in the days following 29 November 1781.[a] The Gregson slave-trading syndicate, based in Liverpool, owned the ship and sailed her in the Atlantic slave trade. As was common business practice, they had taken out insurance on the lives of the enslaved people as cargo. According to the crew, when the ship ran low on drinking water following navigational mistakes, the crew threw enslaved people overboard into the sea.

After the slave ship reached port at Black River, Jamaica, Zong's owners made a claim to their insurers for the loss of the enslaved people. When the insurers refused to pay, the resulting court cases (Gregson v Gilbert (1783) 3 Doug. KB 232) held that in some circumstances, the murder of enslaved people was legal and that insurers could be required to pay for those who had died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zong_massacre

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

The Oldest Man posted:

There is always one final, profitable use for chattel slaves

the court has ruled "anything's fine as long as browns die"

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

Terror Sweat posted:

Just so we're clear, doing crimes in real life gets you banned here? What are the bannable crimes

well we know which ones get you on the mod team

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



The protest movement of the Tea Party was like 30 guys in lawn chairs that the same media that is now acting like they are the greatest force against evil was taking highly selective pictures of to make look way bigger than in reality and writing endless stories about them to make it look like there it was the constant series of protests.

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

mcmagic posted:

You can just say Tucker is nazi scum and no one should go on his TV show without doing whataboutism. Everyone knows Biden sucks.

yup and no one here knows that about tucker without your brave posts. jesus loving christ mcmagic listen to yourself

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
As far as "being laughed out of academia", you're probably not going to find literal journal articles that are taking the piss out of him (it's rare because unless it's an academic text, most historians aren't going to waste their time writing journal articles tearing down every non academic work they don't like) but there's a solid reason Richard Evans, Richard Rhodes, and Timothy Snyder and the like pretty much ignored the book. And it's not because he made some ground breaking discovery they'd rather not admit to. It's because it's not very well regarded and seen as "uhhhhh, that's an awful lot of conjecture there." So I'm willing to trust that consensus.

lmao at the mod putting words into other historians mouths to defend his dumb opinion
also lmao at that list of historians, esp Rhodes whose most famous work falls into the exact same category of text as Edwin Black's

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Tim Snyder is literally a Holocaust denier

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
*Historian Hat On* Editorializing about whether one side of a conflict bears responsibility for the genocide and warcrimes of the other has no place in an academic text, regardless of the arguments merit *Historian Hat Off*
The argument also has no merit and is deeply disgusting and I can't believe the army of editors a guy like Snyder has didn't tell him to delete that poo poo.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy






lol

lmao

CHINA WATCHER CREW

COME OUT AND PLAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

lol what the heck is going on

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

well you see attacking china is racist more importantly it isnt profitable

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

lol. lmao

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012


More like Earthjuice

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
vote!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHH6Zycrg8Q


If we do have to live in a post-climate apocalypse where we will die without portable airconditioners I hope the government is at least kind enough to provide us with suitcase shrinks and enough CAN-D to deal with the fallout

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

bedpan posted:

https://twitter.com/Earthjustice/status/1380505782320562179

Yes, success is entirely dependent on telling the Black and Indigenous communities "we see you, we hear you; Vote Joe 2024 and sign up for reoccurring donations"

we see you, we hear you, get the gently caress away from our pipeline

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

People itt are more concerned about their climate apocalypse posts than
about the world post-climate apocalypse

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

Egg Moron posted:

People itt are more concerned about their climate apocalypse posts than
about the world post-climate apocalypse

No this is where the succ hangs out, friend. Nice own tho

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica

Egg Moron posted:

People itt are more concerned about their climate apocalypse posts than
about the world post-climate apocalypse

well the climate war is lost but the posting war...

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



At this point I think these people are trying to do this to avoid crack pinging themselves.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

https://twitter.com/ndncollective/status/1262528874098778112?s=19

Lol owned

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009


lol owned

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1380895075471921163?s=20

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Lostconfused posted:

Trump should have argued to block any export of vaccine from USA lmao, would have been the real harm reduction candidate then.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1379621738850422787

It occurs to me that if so many Democratic Party politicians are angry that the U.S. can break its word from one president to the next when it comes to foreign policy, all they'd have to do to solve it is be willing to submit to the authority of an international court and give it means to ensure the U.S. enforces contracts with those countries like the ones it makes with corporations -- which would never be the case because the U.S. is only willing to make concessions to international bodies when it is profitable to corporations (e.g. World Trade Organization). Democrats are also only concerned about an "equal playing field" and so-called ethics tying one hand behind your back when it comes to campaign contributions and anything that helps them secure their hold on power. I mean, not that they should do that, anyway

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 14:43 on Apr 11, 2021

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



I would agree but they knew what they were doing.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Eggplant Squire posted:

At this point I think these people are trying to do this to avoid crack pinging themselves.

it's the only explanation because the other one is they collectively live in a fantasy world populated by grinning goblins and dancing fairies and rainbow sunshine and should probably take some medication for that (the medication is a crack ping pill)

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

People itt are more concerned about their left posts than they are about the post left

Egg Moron has issued a correction as of 16:00 on Apr 11, 2021

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/hancocktom/status/1381139579030233093?s=20

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

bedpan posted:

when is there "enough" organizing? is there ever a stage two to this process?

1. Organize
2. ???
3. Abolish profit

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

People itt are too busy posting about scarcity than striving for post scarcity

Rectal Death Deft
Jan 10, 2020

by Nyc_Tattoo
People itt are too concerned with how liberals guard their posts instead of how liberals operate the guard posts

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

Egg Moron posted:

People itt are too busy posting about scarcity than striving for post scarcity

Wtf this place has been working on post scarcity since about 2010

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

Who posts the posters

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

egg moron, thank you

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

The goal of organizing is to be seen and heard by your faves, much like donating to streamers.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

is pepsi ok posted:

The goal of organizing is to be seen and heard by your faves, much like donating to streamers.

Dolphin
Dec 5, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I haven't been paying attention, what's with the new Biden student loan forgiveness thing? I'm assuming more BS fluff poo poo that doesn't affect 95% of people and then he decides to not even do

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mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Dolezal did nothing wrong and will eventually be vindicated by history

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