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https://twitter.com/gifs_baseball/status/1382149355302481921?s=19 Apparently if the glove had connected with the ball this would be a three base penalty. What a dumb rule, fielders should be allowed to throw their gloves to knock down balls.
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Chamale posted:A pitch clock would lower the strikeout rate considerably. Pitchers are able to throw harder by taking long breaks between pitches. Crowds used to boo any pitcher who took to long on the mound, but now it's expected. A pitch clock also shortens game time significantly without removing any action. If I had the money I would go to every single game I'm able to attend and heckle anyone that steps out of the box or takes a walk off the rubber for more than whatever amount of time that seems right, usually ten or fifteen seconds. If you're not at the rubber or in the box, you're not playing loving baseball, you're standing around. As it is I do that at the games I do get to go to, because gently caress that dilly-dallying. Play the loving game. We don't need clocks, we need shame. Shame.
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Nodoze posted:Moving the mound back is stupid because guys are already loving up their arms all the time as is. The game being TTO is just a thing they are going to have to deal with because 1) teams figured out efficient ways to win and thats the point of the game , and 2) at the end of the day it's on the hitters to adjust to the shift and if they don't want to then thats on them. Banning the shift is a stupid reactionary thing, like everything Manfred has done The Shift is extremely easy to pull off. Hitting to the opposite field is incredibly hard. It skews way too much toward the defense CBS posted:It's easy to sit here at a computer and say a lefty should see a wide open left side and either hit it or bunt it that way. It's quite another to face a 100-mph fastball with the possibility of seeing that pitch instead be a 93-mph slider and not only make contact but control where said contact sends the ball. Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Ban the shift, but also if a hitter complains about any call they get kicked out of the game and a 25 game suspension. Defensive players and pitchers get infinite complaining. Edit: This has the benefit of promoting hitting for average because if you're a baserunner you're allowed to be on offense AND complain to the umps about balls and strikes. rare Magic card l00k fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 21:24
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The shift is not an issue and making rules against it won't accomplish any of the stated goals. Here is league-wide BABIP by season for the entire live-ball era. The prolific shifting all happened within the last 10 years and you can't even see it in this data. The shift is not causing BABIP to fall and forcing players to sell out for power. Banning it won't increase balls in play. 
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Meanwhile, here is the actual issue: strikeouts edit: further context showing all components of TTO 
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Apr 14, 2021 21:34
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Whoa now don't bring data into it. It's about my baseball feelings, man.
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bawfuls posted:Meanwhile, here is the actual issue: strikeouts What happened in 1980-ish?
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I think part of the reason there are more K's is that pitchers are just better now too
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Slimy Hog posted:What happened in 1980-ish? My theory is that the downward trend from the mid-60's till 1980 was primarily the result of the expansion era (talent pool dilution has favored hitting generally), plus the lowered mound in 1969 and the addition of the DH in 1973. Nodoze posted:I think part of the reason there are more K's is that pitchers are just better now too The explosion of data in the past 5-10 years has been a bigger boon to pitchers than hitters, in aggregate. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Apr 14, 2021 21:43
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bawfuls posted:Meanwhile, here is the actual issue: strikeouts Thank you for this, I didn't realize that it was pretty much only strikeouts that are the problem. Homers may be up but they are such a little blip relatively.
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limit pitcher height to 6'2" Put a sign on the mound saying "you must be below this height to ride this ride"
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Yeah home run rate hit an all time high in 2019 of 3.63% compared to 2.25% in 1960 and 1.61% in 1930. So while home runs are nearly double historical rates, and that is certainly noticeable, they are as you said a blip compared to the strikeout rate, when it comes to reducing the number of balls in play. What I find interesting is how stable walk rates have been historically. Even with all these other metagame changes, walk rate just kinda hovers between 7-10%. I suspect that if they shrunk the strikezone, walk right might tick up initially but then would level out back near this historic rate.
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RIP https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1382429747641077760?s=21
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bawfuls posted:If you look at the K-only graph you can see that K% was also rising steadily from about 1930 till 1965-ish. Thanks! Where are you getting these charts?
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Am I dumb or that's gotta be a covid outbreak?
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Slimy Hog posted:Thanks!
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There's a component to reactionary rules changes that just feels...arbitrary. Like decreeing thus illegal but the only real justification you can muster is that you don't really have any idea what to actually do about it. The seven inning doubleheader seems particularly egregious to me; basically every baseball stat is predicated on nine innings or some aspect thereof but regularly shortened games becoming an accepted variance rather than a wild outlier makes this clearly a new era of stats. Hooray the guys who figure out how to compare deadball-era guys to 70's players, I guess. Same for the runner on second: one of the inviolable rules of this dumb game was that getting on base was directly attributable. Even the dropped third strike is a K and an E2, though the inconsistency in number of outs (vs Ks) always bugged me. I dunno. I'm all for a more moment-to-moment appealing game and if strikeouts are the prime culprit there maybe The Baseball Gods oughta take a glance at what's letting pitchers throw harder and with more variance longer and more regularly than shuffling the other eight guys on the field who've got little to do with it. Basically ban the DH and the relief pitcher and you'll get the baseball you want, nerds.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:limit pitcher height to 6'2" Mechanical mound that automatically raises/lowers based on the height of the pitcher.
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Your theory concerning the trend in the 60s reveals the true answer to our problem. Give us 6 (!) more teams. Dilute that talent pool baby.
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holy poo poo that's half the team
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Baseball is like the only sport that doesn't gently caress with its rules. It's just so ridiculous to me that we think it's totally fine that ballparks have different outfield dimensions and other weird quirks (there was a hill! with a flagpole on it! like 5 years ago! you can hit a 302 ft homer at Fenway! one team plays with significantly less dense air than other ones) but the location of the mound cannot be changed, ever, even if it means that the game just gets worse every year. Hitters are going to try to hit elevated line drives because that approach makes you win more baseball games. Pitchers are gonna throw harder and nastier because that makes you win baseball games. If we don't like the results of players optimizing their strategy to win as many games as possible, we can change the rules to make those strategies less effective! That's how literally every other sport does it. loving NFL football used to have final scores like 10-6, and the league decided people wanted more offense, so they *changed the rules* to make it easier to score. You can just do that, it turns out!
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The Pussy Boss posted:holy poo poo that's half the team A grand testament to the whole "full capacity, no restrictions, vaccines are a choice" system.
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Hope Manfred has been paying attention to Blaseball cause they have some good ideas. Give us big buckets. Let hitters bat again if they hit a home run. Add a base. loving murder a player every once in while to keep the team on their toes.
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STAC Goat posted:A grand testament to the whole "full capacity, no restrictions, vaccines are a choice" system. We’re going to see hospitalizations and deaths tick up in Texas in about five weeks and nothing will have been learned.
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alpha_destroy posted:Hope Manfred has been paying attention to Blaseball cause they have some good ideas. Give us big buckets. Let hitters bat again if they hit a home run. Add a base. loving murder a player every once in while to keep the team on their toes. With all the weird poo poo in Spring Training this year, they came dangerously close to inventing the Shame rule, and I definitely want that.
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more falafel please posted:With all the weird poo poo in Spring Training this year, they came dangerously close to inventing the Shame rule, and I definitely want that. OG baseball had the shame rule! I learned that from Effectively Wild. But yes, bring that poo poo back for sure.
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more falafel please posted:With all the weird poo poo in Spring Training this year, they came dangerously close to inventing the Shame rule, and I definitely want that. As much as I hate the runner on in extras rule, this would make it worth it. Maybe then the Twins would wise up some.
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https://twitter.com/alexjstumpf/status/1382438921615912964?s=21 Probably fine
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https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/1382439153229557763 I believe (that this team can grab the 2022 #1 overall pick)
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bawfuls posted:Meanwhile, here is the actual issue: strikeouts Good point on the strikeouts v shift I won’t talk about the shift anymore
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STAC Goat posted:Am I dumb or that's gotta be a covid outbreak? I can't imagine how that happened https://twitter.com/runnercece/status/1380342106749820931
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Actually, they're chanting We Want Virus
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/1382439153229557763 That Tiger's end of year batting stats are an abomination unto the LORD. _Three_ Players with OPS+ higher than average and 2 of them barely. Alex Sanchez wasting what few times he was on base getting thrown out stealing. Just amazing. adaz fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Apr 14, 2021 |
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Back when the $1,200 stimmy checks went out I made a really dumb impulse buy of a bobblehead based on this photo: It came today and I have zero regrets:  And yes, that's a real autograph, not screen printed (which tbh was probably what pushed me over the edge on buying it)
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Bawfuls you actually changed someone’s mind in the internet
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adaz posted:That Tiger's end of year batting stats are an abomination unto the LORD. _Three_ Players with OPS+ higher than average and 2 of them barely. Alex Sanchez wasting what few times he was on base getting thrown out stealing. Just amazing. well you can't bring up Dmitri Young without me longing for STEAKGROWSONDMITRI 
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euphronius posted:Bawfuls you actually changed someone’s mind in the internet 
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