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I wish there was some way to have a betting pool on what will cause Nat’s first death without turning the thread into a CIA document. (I mean, my money is on a platforming mishap at this point, but there are plenty of other plausible candidates.)
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Bug facts: It's cockroaches and termites that are quite closely related. It was abdomen you were thinking about; an insect's anatomy is typically head-thorax-abdomen. In ants, bees and wasps, the thorax is split in two and the lower thorax/abdomen combination is called the gaster. I do picture the knight being an ant of some sort. Although... the reasons why are probably spoilers, save for them being quite small. There's something about this new area that makes it a welcome reprieve from the loneliness of the rest of the game so far. After three zones of abandoned ruins and wilderness, you're here at the city, you get to rest and hang out with your friend Quirrel, and even if it's not in any better a state than the rest of the world, the architecture feels a bit more lived in.
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The Mantis Claw kicks rear end and opens up a ton of new stuff, as I'm sure you might have felt when looking at your map right after getting it. That said this area is really really cool and was the point in my first playthrough where I went from "hey this is pretty neat" to "oh wow there's something really special here", so I'm glad you went that way.
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Apr 10, 2021 01:51
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Getting flashbacks to Gate's Laboratory from X6 with all that air dashing through spikes in that last section.
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Apr 10, 2021 05:07
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I'm in on the dead pool. I'm going with a static room hazard after managing to beat yet another boss we all expect him to die on.
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Apr 10, 2021 05:28
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...I forgot what I was going to say about the Mantis Claw. Although one thing I should mention, which you might have discovered already by the time you read this, is you can dash straight out of the wall cling, which can give you better control than jumping and dashing.
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I don't know what was funniest. (nat don't read these pls) Yorkshire Tea trying his hardest to shade Natural 20 into taking on the Mantis Lords in the hopes that he'll finally see a death or Yorkshire Tea clearly biting his tongue when Natural 20 kept bringing up wanting the Mantis Tribe to be friendly. Also, this is my favourite zone in the game. The music, the rainfall, the ambience, the everything... Also also, everytime I see Quirrel on my travels it always brings a smile to my face. SirSamVimes fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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Apr 10, 2021 13:17
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OMG I just realised if someone asked me what my favourite zone in Hollow Knight was I wouldn't know what to answer. Except "marry me" but that's beside the point.
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Apr 10, 2021 13:24
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I don't know if I'd call the zone Nat's in right now my favourite, because there are so many good ones, but it's definitely up there. That music!
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Apr 10, 2021 13:49
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I'd certainly call it my favorite, and I'm holding off on saying more. But I'd call it one of the best zones in any videogame ever.
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pointlessone posted:I'm in on the dead pool. I'll one up this and predict it will specifically happen in Crystal Peaks
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Apr 12, 2021 09:06
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There's two areas and like three bosses I'm keeping my eye on as potential killers, but let's not make this thread look like a FOIA request yet.
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Nice bug, bro.
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Apr 12, 2021 23:30
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Keeping your limbs inside the lift is 50% more important when you're an insect. 
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Apr 12, 2021 23:56
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As long as you never leave the wall, you won't ever die! Deathless run complete. I'm pretty amazed something like that happened before your first death. This is wonderful. Tea comparing the nail to the sword upgrades in Majora's Mask makes me wonder if it's going to wear off after so many hits and you'll have to pay for it again.
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I hope Nat doesn't miss anything by entering a room and then immediately leaving. That still fills it out on your map, so it might not be obvious you haven't explored there.
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I think I've gotten stuck in the side AND the bottom of the elevator shafts in this area. It's a great game with bugs!
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Two comments on the last two videos: Nat's sheer happiness at getting the love of his 'vanias, the wall jump, is  Did anybody bet on Nat's first death, or rather "death", being a program bug instead of an hostile bug?
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Oh good you went back and found the Nailsmith, I definitely did a large chunk of this area without finding him and boy was that a pain!
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C-Euro posted:Oh good you went back and found the Nailsmith, I definitely did a large chunk of this area without finding him and boy was that a pain!
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For the deadpool, my guess is Nosk does him in.
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Apr 13, 2021 20:59
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I'm going to bet on the deathless run longshot. I believe in Natural 20.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UteHu-aqi_I
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This video shows my favorite little detail in Hollow Knight: the care taken with the announcements of area names. When you move around, you normally get a small title card in the corner of the screen when you cross a border and go into another area. But the first time you enter an area, that title card doesn't appear. Instead you get a fullscreen announcement of the area name, but not until you've gone deeper into the area. The hallway beyond the large gate and the building it leads into are both part of the City of Tears, but it's not until you've reached that last elevator and descended to the ground level of the City that the name appears. If you first enter the City through another route and only later pass through the gate, you get the small title card as soon as you go through the gate. You can see the same effect in video 4: the room in which you fight the Baldur is part of Greenpath, not Forgotten Crossroads, but you have to defeat the Baldur and move deeper into Greenpath before the area's name appears. Regarding the damage value of the nail upgrade: it's actually a bit tricky to figure out exactly how much it increases your damage, because some enemies have slightly lower health when you don't have a nail upgrade. This is presumably to ensure that they are not too tedious to fight if you encounter them without upgrades. The walking guards are one of these enemies, which is why they go from five hits to four rather than five to three like the flying guards. (There are no major spoilers here, just some technical details of the health-and-damage system, so it should be fine for Natural 20 to read. I just put it in a spoiler block to be on the safe side.)
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Very surprised that you stored your money instead of immediately buying the Lumafly Lantern back in town.
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In my defense I forgot it existed until I started recording again.
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Just screaming at my screen / into a pillow during the conversation about notches, get the money gathering patch, it's most useful at the start! I also like how Nat first observed that killing the balloon creatures makes adorable sound effects, but later on insisted he's murdering them because he's just suspicious of their intentions. You are murdering balloons because you like how it sounds, you monster!
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Haven't watched the video yet but at the start of this year I began another playthrough of this game and dropped it right where the previous update started, and tonight I picked it back up in part because of this LP. So thanks for that! My goal is to not just fall into the exact same route I took last time (which, based on the banner for the current update, isn't the route you're taking!)Alxprit posted:Very surprised that you stored your money instead of immediately buying the Lumafly Lantern back in town. I hesitate to call any purchase in this game mandatory, but the Lantern is awfully close to being required to beat the game. It makes a few areas much more tolerable, to the point where I can't imagine doing them sans Lantern. In fact when I started up my playthrough just now I took a detour to Dirtmouth to buy the Lantern...only to realize that I had already purchased it 
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It's entirely possible to explore the entire rest of the Waterways before finding Cornifer. It does require that you find the upgrade for breaking through that weakened floor first, then completely forget that there was a left-hand path. 
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I'm a video behind but I agree that Relic Seeker Lemm is great. edit: Cashing in trinkets should be an onscreen thing because Lemm is cool and good and his dialogue shouldn't be hoarded by the miserly Nat 20.
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C-Euro posted:I hesitate to call any upgrade in this game mandatory, but the Lantern is awfully close to being required to beat the game. It makes a few areas much more tolerable, to the point where I can't imagine doing them sans Lantern. In fact when I started up my playthrough just now I took a detour to Dirtmouth to buy the Lantern...only to realize that I had already purchased it I assume you mean store bought upgrades, because you definitely need the upgrades like the dash, wall jump, double jump, and so on. You also actually do need the Lantern - Distant Village is behind a locked gate, and you can't open it in the dark, which I learned the hard way on my first attempt to get the speedrun achievements.
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fractalairduct posted:I assume you mean store bought upgrades, because you definitely need the upgrades like the dash, wall jump, double jump, and so on. You also actually do need the Lantern - Distant Village is behind a locked gate, and you can't open it in the dark, which I learned the hard way on my first attempt to get the speedrun achievements. Oh yeah, I mean purchases specifically. And the area you mentioned was one of the last things I did in the game, though they pull that same trick elsewhere! E: oh God I forgot about those enemies who split in half once you kill them. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 15, 2021 |
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fractalairduct posted:I assume you mean store bought upgrades, because you definitely need the upgrades like the dash, wall jump, double jump, and so on. You also actually do need the Lantern - Distant Village is behind a locked gate, and you can't open it in the dark, which I learned the hard way on my first attempt to get the speedrun achievements. iirc you could make it through without the lantern early into the game release, but at some point they patched that out and made the lock non-interactive until you bought the lantern. It's funny seeing Nat saying there's no other really good 1 notch charm, while ignoring the gathering swarm charm. So much missed geo and wasted time.....
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Gathering swarm doesn't give you the geo if you leave the room before it gets to you. Much faster just to dash over the corpse real quick than stand at the exit waiting.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Gathering swarm doesn't give you the geo if you leave the room before it gets to you. Much faster just to dash over the corpse real quick than stand at the exit waiting. Still worth it for everything that falls into spike pits
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The man is mortal after all! EDIT: That really was one of the most impressive performances I've ever seen, genuinely, can't believe you did so well. Reveilled fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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Found this LP recently and almost caught up. Been pretty fun, I've gotten a lot of the way through this game, but never to the final boss. Will be curious to see if Nat ever learns how the parry works (with my reflexes, unreliably at best.) now that they've noticed it happen once. Also curious if an accidental steel soul run will happen but that is unlikely. The way the nail upgrading works, IIRC, means speedrunners intentionally don't upgrade the nail, but most normal players should. Also just to say, yes, use your spells. They are awesome. Shaman Stone is great. And while you do have to fight all the bosses at least halfway properly, there are a number where at various player skill levels you will save more health by blamming them than you would by healing and having to dodge for longer.
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