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Mr. Nice! posted:Right now the case presented against him is pretty solid. I will be completely shocked if he walks. I think it's a flex, they'll let the solid case build up and then intimidate the jury into acquitting or at least hanging in the face of overwhelming evidence.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:22
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Sidebar because Dr. Tobin just mentioned a blood gas measurement.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:25
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Mr. Nice! posted:Sidebar because Dr. Tobin just mentioned a blood gas measurement. Can we move to the Hollywood system where surprise witnesses are allowed? Because thats some bullshit
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Apr 15, 2021 16:27
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RFC2324 posted:Can we move to the Hollywood system where surprise witnesses are allowed? He didn't actually mention the CO measurement, though, so we're groovy.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:28
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Mr. Nice! posted:He didn't actually mention the CO measurement, though, so we're groovy. Yup. It was a reference to gas evidence already introduced, so everything's peachy. https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1382717547942793216?s=19 RFC2324 posted:Can we move to the Hollywood system where surprise witnesses are allowed? It's all good. The already-introduced evidence is plenty to call the defense's expert explanation bullshit refuted by already-introduced numbers.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:30
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Dr. Tobin is basically the perfect expert witness.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:32
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Mr. Nice! posted:Dr. Tobin is basically the perfect expert witness. Here's something for you that I'm weary of in the next few minutes - could the defense deliberately try to get Tobin to refer to the unintroduced test results to deliberately get a mistrial? Or would the judge squash that poo poo?
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Apr 15, 2021 16:36
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facialimpediment posted:Here's something for you that I'm weary of in the next few minutes - could the defense deliberately try to get Tobin to refer to the unintroduced test results to deliberately get a mistrial? Or would the judge squash that poo poo? Or if the cops got to him/his family.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:46
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SchnorkIes posted:Or if the cops got to him/his family. Likely not a risk in this case. The police department thoroughly underbussed Chauvin in this trial. The trial had very little thin blue line bullshit, if any. If anything, that's the big surprise of the trial, very little BACK THE BLUE poo poo.
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Apr 15, 2021 16:50
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I don’t know how you can watch the video and come away with the conclusion “idk maybe he didn’t”
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Apr 15, 2021 16:53
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facialimpediment posted:Yup. It was a reference to gas evidence already introduced, so everything's peachy. Doesn’t CO poisoning gently caress with pulse ox measurement though? I thought I remembered from like first aid or something that rosy skin + confusion + pulse ox 100% = CO poisoning
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Apr 15, 2021 17:13
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FrozenVent posted:Doesn’t CO poisoning gently caress with pulse ox measurement though? I thought I remembered from like first aid or something that rosy skin + confusion + pulse ox 100% = CO poisoning https://stormanesthesia.com/anesthe...d%20reflection. Depends on your pulse oximeter I guess.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:18
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Big update to one of the big stories of 2020 https://twitter.com/noahshachtman/status/1382713472056709123?s=21 quote:
Whoops! Honest mistakes happen. It is kind of funny how much the spy agencies hated Trump but I'm not super thrilled at the idea of them actively playing politics. Though it's not like that's their first rodeo.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:23
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facialimpediment posted:Here's something for you that I'm weary of in the next few minutes - could the defense deliberately try to get Tobin to refer to the unintroduced test results to deliberately get a mistrial? Or would the judge squash that poo poo? Nah. The judge wouldn't let that type of poo poo fly. Not like it matters since they closed and we're just awaiting closing arguments next week. Over the next afternoon and all day tomorrow the lawyers and the judge will hammer out the jury instructions.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:23
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I feel like all proving that it was CO from the car exhaust does is change the exact means, but without casting doubt on it. So the suffocation part of torturing and suffocating someone in your power to death is a little different.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:24
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CO just seems bizzare, because even if its from the exhaust, it's still dumbasses fault for not moving him.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:31
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Oh it’s a completely BS claim and everyone knows it.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:33
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FrozenVent posted:Oh it’s a completely BS claim and everyone knows it. Yeah and even if it was real, it just makes him look like an even bigger idiot who killed him in multiple ways.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:41
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"your honor, it obviously wasn't murder because while my client stabbed the alleged victim 14 times, it was actually the gunshot my client dispensed that killed him"
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Apr 15, 2021 17:41
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Hasn't it been a thing since Euro 3 emissions standards that it was all but impossible to kill yourself even in a closed garage from car exhaust?
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Apr 15, 2021 17:47
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The SUV was also a hybrid and there's no indication that it was even running at the time.
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Apr 15, 2021 17:53
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https://twitter.com/usaghawaii/status/1381795671213236225?s=19
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Apr 15, 2021 18:08
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Apr 15, 2021 18:09
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I am reminded of this picture that I took at Ft Gordon 
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Apr 15, 2021 18:14
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That's not exactly the dining facility improvements the troops are looking for. What's next month, suicide awareness month with pancakes shaped like forearms and only strawberry jam for a topping?
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Apr 15, 2021 18:14
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:That's not exactly the dining facility improvements the troops are looking for. Free rope giveaway.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:16
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Glad to see commanders keeping sexual assault response/prevention at the top of the list.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:18
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Almost like capitalism bad You think this started in the 1800s? 
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Apr 15, 2021 18:25
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Godholio posted:You think this started in the 1800s? I definitely think it was exacerbated, yes. Almost as if it leads to outcomes of increased inequality
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Apr 15, 2021 18:32
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If any of y'all haven't watched Pat Robertson play with guns, you should. https://twitter.com/ZTPetrizzo/status/1382727213448056836
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Apr 15, 2021 18:35
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Mr. Nice! posted:If any of y'all haven't watched Pat Robertson play with guns, you should. That was so weird, I never thought I’d be nodding my head in agreement with Pat Robertson.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:42
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FrozenVent posted:Oh it’s a completely BS claim and everyone knows it. Gotta go up there and say something that sounds plausible and hasn't been directly refuted at length by the experts. It only takes one full buy-in. Based on what I've seen this guy is extremely and obviously guilty though. Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 15, 2021 |
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Apr 15, 2021 18:45
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:I definitely think it was exacerbated, yes. Almost as if it leads to outcomes of increased inequality It has nothing to do with capitalism. They can both be bad, but it doesn't mean they're tied together.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:47
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Godholio posted:You think this started in the 1800s? I think that there's a lot of people that use "capitalism" as a critique of a lot of stuff that is really more the result of greed and shortsightedness, which are traits that go back to the dawn of human history. Capitalist economic systems obviously and openly reward greed and shortsightedness, but it's far from an exclusive feature of that system, and in other systems those traits often simply manifest in different ways.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:48
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Godholio posted:It has nothing to do with capitalism. They can both be bad, but it doesn't mean they're tied together. Okay, explain to me how Capital using capital to lobby in the interests of Capital has nothing to with capitalism, please, because you've lost me.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:48
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Okay, explain to me how Capital using capital to lobby in the interests of Capital has nothing to with capitalism, please, because you've lost me. It's this, friendo: Acebuckeye13 posted:I think that there's a lot of people that use "capitalism" as a critique of a lot of stuff that is really more the result of greed and shortsightedness, which are traits that go back to the dawn of human history. Capitalist economic systems obviously and openly reward greed and shortsightedness, but it's far from an exclusive feature of that system, and in other systems those traits often simply manifest in different ways.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:50
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Really diving into pedantry to give Capital a pass
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Apr 15, 2021 18:52
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Lobbying is a pretty direct byproduct of our economic system imo. At least in the form it has taken on in D.C.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:52
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Love to have a piece of unmelted butter on top of five pancakes resting on a thin layer of syrup. The breakfast from "pancakes/divorce/pancakes" looked more appealing.
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Apr 15, 2021 18:53
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Okay, explain to me how Capital using capital to lobby in the interests of Capital has nothing to with capitalism, please, because you've lost me. It's an example of an overstressed bureaucratic system only responding to those with influence and power. Capitalism just determines who has the most influence and power (i.e. those with the most money), in other systems it would be who has the most familial connections, who's highest up in the party, etc.
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