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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 minutes!
https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1380554410225451008

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1381018269692305408

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1381264455602933765?s=20
https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1381264350757945345?s=20

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


if I were Iran, I'd put every resource into developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems because that is the only way to stop this stuff

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
yeah why should Iran even consider going back to any kind of nuclear deal if this poo poo is going to happen regardless

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



gradenko_2000 posted:

yeah why should Iran even consider going back to any kind of nuclear deal if this poo poo is going to happen regardless


the need to reduce the sanctions in the short term

human garbage bag
Jan 8, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

bedpan posted:

if I were Iran, I'd put every resource into developing nuclear weapons and delivery systems because that is the only way to stop this stuff

the entire purpose of these attacks is to show iran that israel has agents deep in their nuclear program, which would deter iran from actually trying to develop a weapon because israel would know and launch a preemptive strike.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

human garbage bag posted:

the entire purpose of these attacks is to show iran that israel has agents deep in their nuclear program, which would deter iran from actually trying to develop a weapon because israel would know and launch a preemptive strike.

even more reason to expand and harden the nuclear program.

and I think the purpose of the attacks is to cause damage, not some elaborate display of deterrence

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 minutes!
https://mobile.twitter.com/Viatcheslavsos3/status/1381607030742511618

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

idk much about iran but this gave me some context.

https://www.juancole.com/2021/04/enrichment-facility-netanyah.html

These sources say that it is unlikely that the damage can be repaired in the near future, which sets Iran up for such repairs being forbidden to it if it reenters the 2015 nuclear deal.

The attack coincided with a visit to Israel by US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin. Iran had unveiled two new, more sophisticated centrifuges at Natanz on Saturday, during a visit by President Hassan Rouhani. These machines are a further violation of Iran’s treaty obligations under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), inasmuch as that document limited Iran to 6,000 unsophisticated centrifuges.

The chair of the nuclear energy committee in the Iranian parliaent, Malek Shariati, noted that the attack came on the day set aside to celebrate Iran’s nuclear technology, and it came as Iran is attempting to have the Trump maximum pressure sanctions lifted, and he called it sabotage.

Israel actually benefited from the 2015 nuclear accord, since it effectively ruled out any future decision of Iran to go for a nuclear bomb. Netanyahu is upset, however, because the deal did not push back against Iranian soft power in the Middle East or completely shut down its nuclear capacity, and wants a maximalist move against Iran. He has in the past contemplated an Israeli military strike against Natanz, and has implied that he would prefer that the United States attack Iran for him.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


quote:

"The CBS data emphasize the strategic importance of a responsible immigration policy that will safeguard Israel's interests as a Jewish and democratic state," he said.

human garbage bag
Jan 8, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

bedpan posted:

even more reason to expand and harden the nuclear program.

and I think the purpose of the attacks is to cause damage, not some elaborate display of deterrence

someone still has to clean the toilets and sweep the floors in the super secret facility

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

THS posted:

isnt there already a canal from the black sea to the mediterranean. a natural one? why would you spend shitloads of money to bypass your own strait
Yeah but they can't widen it at its shortest point because the sea border around it is the town of Istanbul. It's a huge bottle neck. You may as well try to justify destroying the town of Venice to allow oil tankers to reach the nearby Italian oil center more easily, it would be as popular. It's less expansive politically to trash a few place inland.

Toplowtech has issued a correction as of 19:18 on Apr 12, 2021

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

help we keep stealing and colonizing land that is full of non jews but we can;t ethnically cleanse them fast enough!

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

ArmZ posted:

These machines are a further violation of Iran’s treaty obligations under the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA)

The one the US already violated and trashed? lol. "Hey, just because we violated the terms of a treaty doesn't mean you get to as well!"

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1381584441991135237?s=20

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 minutes!
https://twitter.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1381707801442017287

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/LizSly/status/1382095347011444737?s=20
https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1382091790874972166?s=20

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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git r dun

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

o7

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008


narrow political objectives and regional antagonisms have really, really done a number on the legitimacy of nuclear nonproliferation. it has been made abundantly clear that if you want to protect yourself, you must develop nuclear weapons. the cost of not having nuclear weapons is far higher than having them.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Lipstick Apathy
Critical support for the Iranian nuclear program to bring cheap, non fossil fuel energy to their citizens

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

Critical support for the Iranian nuclear program to bring cheap, non fossil fuel energy to their citizens

perversely, the only way to do this is to develop nuclear weapons.

the original wager of the global nonproliferation treaties was that the signatories, of which Iran was one, would be free to construct a domestic nuclear industry complete with reprocessing as long as weapons development was foresworn. political developments however have made clear that the only way to construct a domestic nuclear industry is to first develop nuclear weapons.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It boils down to regime change and once nukes are on the table, there is simply too much on the line. Iran has been focusing on retaining “break out capacity” in order to keep the status quo in place.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Go iran

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

goy ran

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1382094998171181056?s=20
what about the CIA

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1382499511147241472
https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1382499515744321539

does anyone know what this guy's deal is? he seems to be taking a good line on Syria and gets into posting beefs with think-tank crowd

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Joshua Landis has spent a decent amount of time in Syria and I believe he has a Syrian wife. I think she's Alawite, but Landis was still kicked out of Syria prior to 2011 for being too critical of Assad.. He's not ideologically anti-imperialist or anything from what I've seen, but he's pretty clearsighted about who the rebels were.

He got a lot of flack a few years for pointing out how the number of dead in Syria Civil War was proportionally equivalent to the number of dead in the US Civil War.

He seems to fit in with the Quincy Institute crowd of people who aren't against the US empire, but wish it wasn't so stupid and bloodthirsty.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/amandaruthprice/status/1382798413679493122?s=20

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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New Starship Troopers trailer just dropped

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1382591886402142211

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


lol i thought this was large-mouth woman and she was about to eat the whole cupcake, candle and all

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 minutes!
https://twitter.com/alexisak/status/1383166492833894403

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
https://twitter.com/sotomidouble/status/1382973814766592001?s=20

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


obviously it cant be an american funded ally doing that, it must be a country we already hate

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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https://twitter.com/hannsimp/status/1381722032170209284?s=19
https://twitter.com/hannsimp/status/1381777798818332672?s=19
https://twitter.com/hannsimp/status/1381969957613932544?s=19

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Very safe, unless you get stabbed at the pride parade by a man who was just released from prison after serving a sentence for stabbing people at a pride parade.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

This person does not exist

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/waqqn/status/1383146680418234378?s=21

https://twitter.com/AsharaMedia/status/1383036189960196098

two sides of the same event

PawParole has issued a correction as of 07:36 on Apr 17, 2021

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