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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Barry Foster posted:

Hi guys, I'm sorry if this is a really common question, but I was wondering just how decent lower priced monitors really are these days. I'm getting back into home recording after a, like, 16 year hiatus. I've got a behringer UMC404HD for recording guitar/vocals/etc and a Akai MPK mini for beats and synths and things (this is new to me and a lot of fun!). However, the only way I can listen to what I'm doing is with headphones right now. I've got a pair of old AKG K270s which seem pretty good to me, but sometimes you get tired of wearing headphones after awhile.

Monitors like the IK iLoud Micro, M-Audio BX5-D3 and inevitably the KRK Rokit RP5 G4 seem to get good reviews, but then I see what Reddit has to say and as far as they're concerned anything below £500 might as well be tin cans on strings. I know that Reddit tends towards dickhead elitist audiophiles, but it's hard to know who or what to trust. I don't need ultra high quality/professional quality monitors, but I would like something better than bare minimum and that would keep me going for awhile. Any recommendations?

Adam Audio T5V/7V/8V, JBL LSR305/6/8 Mk 2, Yamaha HS5/7/8

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Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


Barry Foster posted:

Hi guys, I'm sorry if this is a really common question, but I was wondering just how decent lower priced monitors really are these days. I'm getting back into home recording after a, like, 16 year hiatus. I've got a behringer UMC404HD for recording guitar/vocals/etc and a Akai MPK mini for beats and synths and things (this is new to me and a lot of fun!). However, the only way I can listen to what I'm doing is with headphones right now. I've got a pair of old AKG K270s which seem pretty good to me, but sometimes you get tired of wearing headphones after awhile.

Monitors like the IK iLoud Micro, M-Audio BX5-D3 and inevitably the KRK Rokit RP5 G4 seem to get good reviews, but then I see what Reddit has to say and as far as they're concerned anything below £500 might as well be tin cans on strings. I know that Reddit tends towards dickhead elitist audiophiles, but it's hard to know who or what to trust. I don't need ultra high quality/professional quality monitors, but I would like something better than bare minimum and that would keep me going for awhile. Any recommendations?

Best cheap monitors out there are the Kalis. The LP series punch WAY above their price range.

Luna
May 31, 2001

A hand full of seeds and a mouthful of dirt


Barry Foster posted:

Hi guys, I'm sorry if this is a really common question, but I was wondering just how decent lower priced monitors really are these days. I'm getting back into home recording after a, like, 16 year hiatus. I've got a behringer UMC404HD for recording guitar/vocals/etc and a Akai MPK mini for beats and synths and things (this is new to me and a lot of fun!). However, the only way I can listen to what I'm doing is with headphones right now. I've got a pair of old AKG K270s which seem pretty good to me, but sometimes you get tired of wearing headphones after awhile.

Monitors like the IK iLoud Micro, M-Audio BX5-D3 and inevitably the KRK Rokit RP5 G4 seem to get good reviews, but then I see what Reddit has to say and as far as they're concerned anything below £500 might as well be tin cans on strings. I know that Reddit tends towards dickhead elitist audiophiles, but it's hard to know who or what to trust. I don't need ultra high quality/professional quality monitors, but I would like something better than bare minimum and that would keep me going for awhile. Any recommendations?

I got a pair of Kalis for xmas. My opinion, they are the biggest bang for the buck.

https://www.amazon.com/Kali-Audio-LP-6-Studio-Monitor/dp/B07NWBSJ11?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Fats
Oct 14, 2006

What I cannot create, I do not understand
Fun Shoe
I've got the JBL LSR305Ps, and the matching subwoofer (LSR310?), and they sound great. Those Kalis look really nice though, and you get a bigger speaker for the same price.

Preggo My Eggo!
Jun 17, 2010
I have no prior experience with monitors so take this with a grain of salt, but I love my Yamaha HS5s. To me they sound great and give me a good-enough reference. I do a lot of bass also, and don't feel the need for larger drivers.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I really like my Presonus Eris E5s however wish I'd gotten the E8s now. It's rare I crank it but sometimes I feel like bigger speakers would be nice, if only for the better/bigger bass response.
I think 'studio' space and neighbours/others in your house are the main things to consider, my 5 inch speakers are great all things considered and strike a good balance, just sometimes it would be nice to have more oomph.

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Another thing is the 8 inch monitors are freakin huge. I actually am running the jbl 104s in two rooms now and as long as you pull em away from the wall a bit you can get full enough sound for an apartment no problem

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Luna posted:

I got a pair of Kalis for xmas. My opinion, they are the biggest bang for the buck.

https://www.amazon.com/Kali-Audio-LP-6-Studio-Monitor/dp/B07NWBSJ11?ref_=ast_sto_dp

well this is rather interesting and something I might have to check out real real soon...

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Thanks for all the recs, guys - what you've mentioned (bar the Kalis) I've come across on the review sites, so I guess I'm good to trust 'em in general.

Cheers!

guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob
I think I'd like to take a deeper dive on recording technique. Any recommendations on a good book on the subject? I'm interested in details like mic placement etc. as well as mixing. I have my eye on either Modern Recording Techniques or The Recording Engineer's Handbook, but I'm open to other suggestions too.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

So got my ipad running. Got my akai professional ready to roll. Downloaded Cubase AND Korg Gadget. Got my guitars and pedals ready to go. And I've been spending the last few days running around like their head is cut off trying to figure out how to use it.

Already been hosed over buying the right cables that accept a usb c type ipad. And now Im willing to throw the big bucks at an interface that'll hopefully solve anything.

What do you think of this type of IRig? https://www.guitarcenter.com/IK-Mul...KBoCRCoQAvD_BwE

The internet is also telling me to buy an apple camera connector but I'm hoping this makes that unnecessary.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Shageletic posted:

So got my ipad running. Got my akai professional ready to roll. Downloaded Cubase AND Korg Gadget. Got my guitars and pedals ready to go. And I've been spending the last few days running around like their head is cut off trying to figure out how to use it.

Already been hosed over buying the right cables that accept a usb c type ipad. And now Im willing to throw the big bucks at an interface that'll hopefully solve anything.

What do you think of this type of IRig? https://www.guitarcenter.com/IK-Mul...KBoCRCoQAvD_BwE

The internet is also telling me to buy an apple camera connector but I'm hoping this makes that unnecessary.

Do not get an iRig, do not get any piece of gear that works only with your iPad and nothing else due to bespoke connector bullshit, unless it truly is the best piece of gear for your purpose (like if you need something ultra portable).

iPad is USB class-compliant so practically everything USB can talk to it- including lots of poo poo that didn’t before. My Soundcraft Signature 12MTK mixer/interface works a treat with my iPad. Lots of usb mics, interfaces, keyboards, etc, will do the same.

If it’s a Lightning connector iPad, just get the camera dongle- it’s great, it lets you charge your iPad at the same time as plugging poo poo into it.

If it’s a USB-C iPad just get a USB-C hub, or a matching USB cable. Then plug whatever interface/mixer (get a mixer) you want into it

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Its a 4th generation Ipad Air that only allows Usb C type cables to connect to it. That lightning connector sounds cool as hell.

Ive also looked at Shure's 129 dollar interface that supposedly works with ipads. Just dont wanna buy something that yet again doesnt work for this insanely annoying bespoke piece of machinery

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Nothing worked with my iPad till I got the connector that charges since a lot of devices need more power than the iPad alone can deliver.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Shageletic posted:

Its a 4th generation Ipad Air that only allows Usb C type cables to connect to it. That lightning connector sounds cool as hell.

Ive also looked at Shure's 129 dollar interface that supposedly works with ipads. Just dont wanna buy something that yet again doesnt work for this insanely annoying bespoke piece of machinery

dude, I just finished telling you in like three decently sized paragraphs that basically any USB interface will work with a recent gen iPad. Just try it with a bog-standard focusrite or mackie or yamaha or soundcraft or tascam or behringer, and if it doesn’t work just return it (but it will probably work). A USB C-to-USB A hub is like $15 (get a powered one for best results, but a portable one will be fine for running a bunch of stuff)

or you could drop three bills on a piece of kit made for an older type of connector that your iPad doesn’t even have, and marketed to a super-niche corner of music hobbyists. Also like 90% of those products are like 5+ years old. That category of “made for iPad” device (which was made for shittier, less powerful iPads) doesn’t exist anymore because iPad went USB class-compliant and Apple (smartly) began to chase more general/powerful computing roles for iPad.

also why in the world would you think that lightning is better than USB-C? Is this your first iOS device?

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 7, 2021

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


Ok Comboomer posted:

dude, I just finished telling you in like three decently sized paragraphs that basically any USB interface will work with a recent gen iPad. Just try it with a bog-standard focusrite or mackie or yamaha or soundcraft or tascam or behringer, and if it doesn’t work just return it (but it will probably work). A USB C-to-USB A hub is like $15 (get a powered one for best results, but a portable one will be fine for running a bunch of stuff)

The powered hub part is not gonna be optional for bus powered interfaces.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Gramps posted:

The powered hub part is not gonna be optional for bus powered interfaces.

This is true. My interface isn’t bus powered so I overlooked that

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Ok Comboomer posted:

dude, I just finished telling you in like three decently sized paragraphs that basically any USB interface will work with a recent gen iPad. Just try it with a bog-standard focusrite or mackie or yamaha or soundcraft or tascam or behringer, and if it doesn’t work just return it (but it will probably work). A USB C-to-USB A hub is like $15 (get a powered one for best results, but a portable one will be fine for running a bunch of stuff)

or you could drop three bills on a piece of kit made for an older type of connector that your iPad doesn’t even have, and marketed to a super-niche corner of music hobbyists. Also like 90% of those products are like 5+ years old. That category of “made for iPad” device (which was made for shittier, less powerful iPads) doesn’t exist anymore because iPad went USB class-compliant and Apple (smartly) began to chase more general/powerful computing roles for iPad.

also why in the world would you think that lightning is better than USB-C? Is this your first iOS device?

Yeah this is my first iOS device. You mentioned a Soundcraft Signature 12MTK mixer/interface and I was trying to find a cheaper alternative. My ignorance is showing.

Dug into my musical equipment and guess what just found an M-Audio interface. And I'll get my hands on a powered USB C to USB A hub to connect to the Ipad.

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it!!!

e: I mean not find a powered hub ^^^^

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Shageletic posted:

Yeah this is my first iOS device. You mentioned a Soundcraft Signature 12MTK mixer/interface and I was trying to find a cheaper alternative. My ignorance is showing.

Dug into my musical equipment and guess what just found an M-Audio interface. And I'll get my hands on a powered USB C to USB A hub to connect to the Ipad.

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it!!!

e: I mean not find a powered hub ^^^^

no worries, it just used to be much muuuuch worse to try to make music with an iPad in the past, USB C and universal compliance are major improvements over a few years ago

If your m-Audio interface has its own plug then you may not need a powered hub, but get one anyway if you have a bunch of gear to plug in

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Anyone have a recommendation for a good workstation desk in the $300-$400 range? I'd been using an ikea Linnmon that has completely deteriorated. Also they've discontinued the model and what they've replaced it with isn't as deep.

I love the Output Platform desks, just don't wanna drop $700 on one.

Bonus points if it has a tray for a midi keyboard.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
I get crazy hum/buzzing from my electric guitar (humbuckers) when I'm playing through my interface. It gets better/worse depending on where I am in the room and my orientation. Does anyone have tips on reducing it? Is it just something everyone deals with?

Guitar is a new Ibanez JSM20, cables are new.

ashgromnies fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Apr 17, 2021

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Sep 18, 2012

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"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Have you ruled out the guitar and the cable? (Ie tested that you don't get this with a different cable or with an amp)?

Otherwise maybe it's a grounding problem with your computer/interface?

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010

ashgromnies posted:

I get crazy hum/buzzing from my electric guitar (humbuckers) when I'm playing through my interface. It gets better/worse depending on where I am in the room and my orientation. Does anyone have tips on reducing it? Is it just something everyone deals with?

Guitar is a new Ibanez JSM20, cables are new.

Was having a similar issue and it solved itself when I had to move my computer and plug things into different outlets/power strips. So you could try experimenting with that variable.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Before I got an interface with balanced outs my setup was buzz city, could hear the GPU spooning up and and down through it.
I was having some buzzing the other day which was really irritating and I thought it was because I was using my synth just off USB power rather than PSU but it turned out one of my speaker cables had come out a little bit, fiddling with that and putting it back in properly solved the problem.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

does anyone use an ipad with a midi controller in a live setting? I may need to go beyond my usual sound palate of Nord Electro patches for a gig pretty soon and I'm trying to figure out the most economical way of doing it. I've used a laptop with Logic in the past, and could go that route again, but I hate bringing my laptop to gigs. Also I have a newer iPad Air with just a USB C port, so I'm guessing I'd need some sort of ridiculous chain of splitters and dongles to plug in a USB keyboard, power the iPad, and get sound out of it ... poo poo, is it even possible?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Puppy Galaxy posted:

does anyone use an ipad with a midi controller in a live setting? I may need to go beyond my usual sound palate of Nord Electro patches for a gig pretty soon and I'm trying to figure out the most economical way of doing it. I've used a laptop with Logic in the past, and could go that route again, but I hate bringing my laptop to gigs. Also I have a newer iPad Air with just a USB C port, so I'm guessing I'd need some sort of ridiculous chain of splitters and dongles to plug in a USB keyboard, power the iPad, and get sound out of it ... poo poo, is it even possible?

nah, it’ll work just fine with pretty much any USB interface/converter/mixer/whatever you got, or a USB C dongle/hub with power-in port (which most have) if you want to power the iPad.

If your controller has Bluetooth, or you have a Bluetooth MIDI adapter plug, it’ll also work with that just fine.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Puppy Galaxy posted:

does anyone use an ipad with a midi controller in a live setting? I may need to go beyond my usual sound palate of Nord Electro patches for a gig pretty soon and I'm trying to figure out the most economical way of doing it. I've used a laptop with Logic in the past, and could go that route again, but I hate bringing my laptop to gigs. Also I have a newer iPad Air with just a USB C port, so I'm guessing I'd need some sort of ridiculous chain of splitters and dongles to plug in a USB keyboard, power the iPad, and get sound out of it ... poo poo, is it even possible?

I have seen a handful of (fd videos of) people use iPads running bias amp/fx with a midi controller and guitar for live stuff in churches or whatever and it seemed to work well

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

ashgromnies posted:

I get crazy hum/buzzing from my electric guitar (humbuckers) when I'm playing through my interface. It gets better/worse depending on where I am in the room and my orientation. Does anyone have tips on reducing it? Is it just something everyone deals with?


Not accidentally using a speaker cable instead of an instrument cable are you? That can cause interference.

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Time for a little porn-eroony

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Basic Poster posted:

Time for a little porn-eroony



I see a room full of gear and exactly zero genitals, 0/10

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

gotta keep the nord covered

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Does anyone know of a good way to rackmount a desktop audio interface? I have a 2nd gen Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 and my new desk has rackmount space and I'd like to make use of it to maximize my desktop space.

Any kind of universal ears/brackets that I can install?

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

if there aren't rack ears available for it you could just buy a rack tray/shelf and let it sit in there on the shelf (https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UTR1--middle-atlantic-products-utr1-1u-utility-rack-shelf)

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Puppy Galaxy posted:

does anyone use an ipad with a midi controller in a live setting? I may need to go beyond my usual sound palate of Nord Electro patches for a gig pretty soon and I'm trying to figure out the most economical way of doing it. I've used a laptop with Logic in the past, and could go that route again, but I hate bringing my laptop to gigs. Also I have a newer iPad Air with just a USB C port, so I'm guessing I'd need some sort of ridiculous chain of splitters and dongles to plug in a USB keyboard, power the iPad, and get sound out of it ... poo poo, is it even possible?

You'll need whatever the adaptor is that has power in to the iPad plus an out for USB, since the iPad alone likely won't be sending enough power to the keyboard. At least that's the case for my lightning one. When its all hooked up though its pretty simple. Power charger from wall into splitter, one cable to iPad, one cable to the USB device. Whatever the USB C version is should work the same.

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Not sure if this is the appropriate thread to ask this question, but I'm looking to record myself playing some instruments for the purpose of self critique and collaboration.

I've taken the first step and recorded myself with my phone...and that sucks.

Mainly because all the audio is coming thru the phone mic which sounds exactly how you would expect. Room noise and all.


So for thes guys that do play along videos on YouTube to published tunes, is there a good method to capture video and have the audio source be something inside the computer or say a USB sound card? Or is this all synched in post?

Tia!

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight

Basic Poster posted:

Not sure if this is the appropriate thread to ask this question, but I'm looking to record myself playing some instruments for the purpose of self critique and collaboration.

I've taken the first step and recorded myself with my phone...and that sucks.

Mainly because all the audio is coming thru the phone mic which sounds exactly how you would expect. Room noise and all.


So for thes guys that do play along videos on YouTube to published tunes, is there a good method to capture video and have the audio source be something inside the computer or say a USB sound card? Or is this all synched in post?

Tia!

Youll want to grab an audio interface, Focusrite's Scarlett line is great and pretty affordable. They usually package them with a free version of Ableton and/or ProTools. From there you can use your webcam to record the video. Then you can use a free vid editing software like Filmora or something of the like to sync up the vid/audio.

Basic Poster
May 11, 2015

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Scarf posted:

Youll want to grab an audio interface, Focusrite's Scarlett line is great and pretty affordable. They usually package them with a free version of Ableton and/or ProTools. From there you can use your webcam to record the video. Then you can use a free vid editing software like Filmora or something of the like to sync up the vid/audio.

Gotcha. I have a scarlett 18i20 and an octopre.
And a bunch of other stuff



I've just never messed with video. What I am hearing is there isn't an all in one audio source selectable video capture software...sounds like I'd need to record video and overlay the audio. Cool that Ableton supports light video editing.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


Basic Poster posted:

Gotcha. I have a scarlett 18i20 and an octopre.
And a bunch of other stuff



I've just never messed with video. What I am hearing is there isn't an all in one audio source selectable video capture software...sounds like I'd need to record video and overlay the audio. Cool that Ableton supports light video editing.

Do a bit of post editing. Record your guitar in your DAW and record the video however. You want OBS for capture if you're using a computer connected cam and DaVinci Resolve for editing. Both free.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Basic Poster posted:

So for thes guys that do play along videos on YouTube to published tunes, is there a good method to capture video and have the audio source be something inside the computer or say a USB sound card? Or is this all synched in post?

synced in post

I did most of my stuff with a gopro/dslr/phone for video and the audio was all into Reaper via old presonuses (presonusi?) - did the mix and bounced it to a stereo track - then combined audio and video (throwing away any audio from the camera) via adobe premiere or davinci resolve or whatever video editor you can get your hands on.

this was the last thing I did on all that ^^^ before I moved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzzzjpaPu90

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Krustic
Mar 28, 2010

Everything I say draws controversy. It's kinda like the abortion issue.
I want to add another mic to my setup but I really have no idea what mic or type of mic to buy. I have a sm57 already and I mostly just use it on my amp or an occasional acoustic guitar. Any cheap reccomendations?

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