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hmmm I wonder what else those people who declared the Bolsheviks not 'representing' them declared at that parliament, could that have played into why party leadership decided 'nah you don't get to throw this all off the rails'??? 
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spacetoaster posted:Because of my military experience I tend to really hate military stuff in movies because none of it ever makes sense. Yeah it's almost like leadership means getting your underlings to trust you, rather than being the smartest person in the room ordained from on high to be in charge and demanding blind obedience based on that, y'know, like Rian Johnson being put in charge of Star Wars oh snap
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Also the big issue in early 1918 was that the remaining SRs wanted to continue fighting the war, which was suicidal at that point.
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Yinlock posted:lest we get too deep into trump thread delusion, let's not forget that hero of the common man donald j trump renovated the white house to line everything with eye-searing gold while that would've been really funny it seems you're already a victim of this sickness, because this didn't actually happen he mostly just swapped back in clinton's mustard oval office curtains and bought a couple gold eagle statues and poo poo, and replaced the HVAC
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loquacius posted:Yeah it's almost like leadership means getting your underlings to trust you, rather than being the smartest person in the room ordained from on high to be in charge and demanding blind obedience based on that, y'know, like Rian Johnson being put in charge of Star Wars oh snap It makes sense when you realise she's actually just Hillary Clinton
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I would say as far as contemporary media goes, i don’t think isn’t possible to write decent fiction without gray areas and that isn’t possible in the increasing Cold War-seque milieu of present day America. There is a reason that comic book films are dominate, it is just cutting to the chase.
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gradenko_2000 posted:They should let Rian Johnson do a recut of ROS They should let rainn wilson do one Then let Wilson phillips do one
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loquacius posted:I loving hated everything about purple lady They should have mutinied and she was a garbage tier captain
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spacemang_spliff posted:They should have mutinied and she was a garbage tier captain the problem that Admiral Halsey ran into was that any legitimate criticism of her was buried in all the misogyny weird how liberals figured out that you can start leveraging that deliberately!
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WorkerThread posted:we should bring back fragging It was essentially a labor action when you think about it
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sexpig by night posted:My beef with Lenin always was how he was so certain he was right about his interpretation of Marxism that he could brook no challengers to his party's ideals. When there was an actual parliament established with different parties representing the actual people which then decided that the Bolsheviks didn't represent their ideals or what they wanted, he and the Bolsheviks declared them counterrevolutionary, purged quite a few of them and declared that any congress only existed at the behest of and to support the politburo, which was the True Party of The People. Lenin let the left-SRs in the government for a while but who else was there to make a government with? kerensky was a right-SR and the menshikviks split over joining the reds or the whites
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Hey I said I had beef with Lenin because he was a "my version of Marxism is right and no one else's is" antidemocratic rear end in a top hat. I do not have a beef Marxism. You make the government the people want, you don't foist your high minded ideas on them and when they disagree say they aren't doing it right. The Reds won the war but plenty of people thought it would mean real representation as well as mutual economic benefit and freedom from oppression. The got more oppression.
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you were, comrade.
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Lol, lmao. loving hell. Imagine thinking the peasants gave a gently caress about voting or democracy. They just wanted the guys hoarding the land to piss off.
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The people wanted peace, land, and bread. Who else was going to give them that? Even the "peace" part was something that any possible coalition government split over.
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Yeah the largest party was the right SRs who basically had no structure and couldn’t agree on anything beyond some vague concept of land reform. Also, yeah the war was a bit of an issue.
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Also you can look up what Marx thought about peasants. You don't have to do any guessing on his account or argue about interpretation.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Abrams tries to make everything exciting, which makes nothing exciting, which makes nothing in the film memorable because all of that excitement is just artificially manufactured with music and swooping visuals. I think there's also something formulaic, though I couldn't tell you exactly what the details of the formula in question are. It just feels like his movies seamlessly transition from scene to scene without you ever "digesting" anything. The second Star Wars sequel movie is the only one that I got anything out of. I don't think it was good exactly, but I can at least remember its events and it wasn't predictable 100% of the time. KaptainKrunk posted:he's not actually good at anything. you could take your average film school student and drop them in JJ's shoes, with the same support around him, and probably have a 50-50 shot of making something better I'm pretty sure that if an average film school student made something, it would at least have some kind of "texture" to it, even if it was bad. Abrams makes things uncannily smooth and featureless. Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 04:49 on Apr 18, 2021 |
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i thought TFA and TLJ were fine. nothing id go out of my way to see again but i didnt regret paying money to see them ROS was something i thought was impossible - a boring star wars film
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like boring to the point where i was checking my phone every ten minutes. nothing means anything and stupid poo poo assails you from every angle. MASSIVE STAR DESTROYER FLEET OUT OF NOWHERE! SOME BOUNTY HUNTER CHICK WHO APPEARS FOR TEN MINUTES AND KNOWS ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS AND IS NEVER SEEN AGAIN! SOY BANTER!
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^TFA was decent, but TLJ sucked and I stopped watching^ Not saying the peasants did. But plenty of other groups did. Yea, the other parties wanted to fight the Bolshiveks and start a new assembly. When they got spanked they bitched that the Bolshiveks and their allies illegally seized power. nothing bad ever happened when someone declared that they represented what the people REALLY wanted/needed and started making decisions based on their own beliefs because of it. I disagree with what Lenin did with his power and that he wouldn't compromise whatsoever.
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paranoid randroid posted:SOY BANTER! Only recently (like within the last couple months or so) did I encounter the term "soy banter" to refer to this specific sort of thing, but it's a genuinely strange cultural affect that seems to be the result of wealthy Hollywood/media people incestuously creating some sort of cultural abomination. Like people set out to create "witty banter" and then it evolved into this sort of thing over time.
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lightfoot might be resigning? https://twitter.com/catlynsavado/status/1383622943150727174?s=21
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lightfoot might be resigning? If there's one thing we've learned recently it's that dem leaders can ride out literally anything by saying some nice words and sitting tight for 2 weeks. I would not place a bet on her resigning lol
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Taffer posted:If there's one thing we've learned recently it's that dem leaders can ride out literally anything by saying some nice words and sitting tight for 2 weeks. I would not place a bet on her resigning lol lots of rumors going around about something coming out tomorrow, maybe it’s bullshit...... https://twitter.com/soit_goes/status/1383631250523529228?s=21 https://twitter.com/jaymalgreen/status/1383624759150202884?s=21
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would be pretty funny for lightfoot to resign after loving up chicago as bad as she did and then get a position in the biden admin
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:lots of rumors going around about something coming out tomorrow, maybe it’s bullshit...... Wait how does I'm going to retract it work you just said it Maybe that's the joke and it's late and I'm not getting it
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U-DO Burger posted:would be pretty funny for lightfoot to resign after loving up chicago as bad as she did and then get a position in the biden admin DHS
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Hey if theyre collecting lovely dem mayors they should snap up "teargas jenny" durkan of seattle
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Ytlaya posted:Only recently (like within the last couple months or so) did I encounter the term "soy banter" to refer to this specific sort of thing, but it's a genuinely strange cultural affect that seems to be the result of wealthy Hollywood/media people incestuously creating some sort of cultural abomination. Like people set out to create "witty banter" and then it evolved into this sort of thing over time. its likely joss whedons fault
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all the freaks and perverts that liked whedon in the 90s got jobs in the film industry and ruined everything forever, yeah
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this is Lightfoot's biggest city council ally https://twitter.com/RLopez15thWard/status/1383425339200720903?s=20 https://twitter.com/RLopez15thWard/status/1383426743541800968?s=20 https://twitter.com/RLopez15thWard/status/1383392726687772680?s=20
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Ytlaya posted:Only recently (like within the last couple months or so) did I encounter the term "soy banter" to refer to this specific sort of thing, but it's a genuinely strange cultural affect that seems to be the result of wealthy Hollywood/media people incestuously creating some sort of cultural abomination. Like people set out to create "witty banter" and then it evolved into this sort of thing over time. i googled this term and there's one relevant link to a matt christman tweet and the rest is just candles lol
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https://twitter.com/cholent_lover/status/1383611050415706116?s=20 https://twitter.com/RLopez15thWard/status/1383236634720702474?s=20 cops are upset they have to protect Lightfoot (who they hate) from protestors (who they also hate), so they're are trying to oust Lightfoot with a sex scandal?
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