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Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014

KaptainKrunk posted:

if you want your standard, academic left-libbish take, can't go wrong with Oxford's A History of Russia (2018) or Cambridge's 3 volume History of Russia or the shorter Concise History of Russia. Just as always have to grain of salt things especially when it comes to the Soviet era and the Cold War

Thanks! Would you recommend Trotsky's account of the Revolution? I've heard it's very well written

THS
Sep 15, 2017

iirc one of the advantages of buying a minsk tractor is that unlike john deer if you try to repair it yourself, they wont send assassins to kill you

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

THS posted:

iirc one of the advantages of buying a minsk tractor is that unlike john deer if you try to repair it yourself, they wont send assassins to kill you

a killswitch that disables the combine if it detects monsanto crops

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

ToxicAcne posted:

Anyone have a good overview of Russian History? This could be more than one book.

here's some soviet books

* https://archive.org/details/shorthistoryussrpart1 (covers the history of Soviet territory from antiquity to 1917)
* https://archive.org/details/shorthistoryussrpart2 (continuation of the above, covering Soviet history from 1917 to the first half of the 1960s)
* https://archive.org/details/HistoryUSSREraSocialism (covers Soviet history from 1917-1980)
* https://archive.org/details/TheUSSRAShortHistory (covers Soviet history from 1917-1975)

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Gorman Thomas
Jul 24, 2007

ToxicAcne posted:

Thanks! Would you recommend Trotsky's account of the Revolution? I've heard it's very well written

Yes but just keep in mind he does have an axe to grind with, well, everyone involved.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

ToxicAcne posted:

Thanks! Would you recommend Trotsky's account of the Revolution? I've heard it's very well written

It’s self aggrandizing and hysterical, so I consider it the opposite, but it is a unique primary account.

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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Just keep in mind it's a primary source, and remember to lol at Trotsky for being a ridiculous little lord Fauntleroy who wanted to pull a Bonapartist coup but got beaten to the punch and you're good.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

:ironicat:

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Greg12 posted:

Is Belarus still the one former SSR that never the Larry Summers gang in to cart everything of value away?

As I understand it, Lukashenko was elected on a platform of "what if we stop selling off all the state assets" and as a result Belarus has GPD per capita and Human Development Index than Ukraine.

Lukashenko's big propaganda win during the big upsurge in protests was telling people to read the opposition candidate's policy page, which included a bunch delusional neoliberal economic policy.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1383807181229740035

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Atrocious Joe posted:

As I understand it, Lukashenko was elected on a platform of "what if we stop selling off all the state assets" and as a result Belarus has GPD per capita and Human Development Index than Ukraine.

Lukashenko's big propaganda win during the big upsurge in protests was telling people to read the opposition candidate's policy page, which included a bunch delusional neoliberal economic policy.

You could just tell after that site was discovered that the protests seriously started to wane. Up until that point it was ambiguous enough that it was difficult to tell then the mask accidentally dropped off.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
What's stopping a left wing opposition from arising instead of a neolib one in opposition to Lukashenko, PiS, Orban etc. Is that just not possible in eastern europe these days

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

isn’t Lukashenko economically leftist to the extent that he’s a Soviet relic?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Maximo Roboto posted:

isn’t Lukashenko economically leftist to the extent that he’s a Soviet relic?

That was the impression I got from Moderate Rebels's take on the protests

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Maximo Roboto posted:

isn’t Lukashenko economically leftist to the extent that he’s a Soviet relic?

I think only in comparison to the shitshows in the rest of the post soviet states, he's kept some state owned assets unprivatized, provides pensions to olds that comprise his support base, etc.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

quote:

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Lukashenko stated that concerns about the pandemic were a "frenzy and a psychosis" and that working the tractors, drinking vodka and going to saunas could prevent people from infection from the virus. "People are working in tractors. No one is talking about the virus", Lukashenko said on 16 March 2020. "There, the tractor will heal everyone. The fields heal everyone". He also said: "I don’t drink, but recently I’ve been saying that people should not only wash their hands with vodka, but also poison the virus with it. You should drink the equivalent of 40–50 milliliters of rectified spirit daily", but he advised against doing so while at work.[177][178] By early May, Belarus was reported to have 15,000 diagnosed cases, one of the highest per capita rates of infection in Eastern Europe.[179]

this guy loving rules

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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zardoz voice: the tractor is good!

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
I mean I imagine working in a tractor would be pretty safe? Pretty sure that's not where the transmission was happening. I don't know much about Belarus but I suspect it's not all tractors all the time.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Mantis42 posted:

this guy loving rules

Is any of this wrong?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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the reason belarus is better than russia is because steven seagal went to russia to do promotions and pig out like an old clown, whereas dolph lundgren -- who was always way better than steven seagal -- went to belarus to drive world war II tanks around for the world of tanks game



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myc5Puci2aE

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fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/XisMoments/status/1383601179888955392?s=20

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

the reason belarus is better than russia is because steven seagal went to russia to do promotions and pig out like an old clown, whereas dolph lundgren -- who was always way better than steven seagal -- went to belarus to drive world war II tanks around for the world of tanks game

let's not get too far ahead of ourselves

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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i say swears online posted:

let's not get too far ahead of ourselves


this is devastating

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

i say swears online posted:

let's not get too far ahead of ourselves



batka :3:

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

https://twitter.com/Policy/status/1379982393671442433?s=19

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

If it's anything like the first two hashtags, they will say it but never actually do anything about it.

Who am I kidding, there's money in this one.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/MilkTeaAlliance/status/1253276905106636801?s=19

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth
Lol what the gently caress is this astroturfed poo poo.

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

paperwind posted:

Lol what the gently caress is this astroturfed poo poo.

Companies and probably CIA-funded groups trying to strongarm China because their GDP is too close to ours.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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"Milk Tea Alliance" has also been described as "boba liberalism", as originating from the Hong Kong protests being largely depicted as a pro-Western youth movement, and therefore kids drinking milk tea

it's turned into an "alliance" because they've been trying to link the Thailand protests and the Myanmar protests to it

it's akin to calling it "The Asian Spring", except even cringier

that Twitter is boosting it definitely means it's backed by the Deep State though

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

gradenko_2000 posted:

"Milk Tea Alliance" has also been described as "boba liberalism", as originating from the Hong Kong protests being largely depicted as a pro-Western youth movement, and therefore kids drinking milk tea

it's turned into an "alliance" because they've been trying to link the Thailand protests and the Myanmar protests to it

it's akin to calling it "The Asian Spring", except even cringier

that Twitter is boosting it definitely means it's backed by the Deep State though

Strife in Asia is a hot iron to strike for America to grandstand about western democracy whether or not they directly support a country in this so-called alliance.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

good news everyone

https://twitter.com/AlexSaundersAU/status/1384026506993704964

chinas refusal to ban btc is actually part of a fourth dimensional chess move that will eventually manifest as their commitment to socialism

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

from the same article

quote:

About 65 per cent of all bitcoin mining in April 2020 happened in China, according to figures from the Cambridge Centre for Alternative Finance.

Of those figures, 36 per cent takes place in Xinjiang, the province where the Muslim minority Uighurs are subject to what the US considers to be genocide. Bitcoin mining is the energy-intensive process in which networked computers verify the cryptographic puzzle of the digital coin, earning a portion of the token’s value.

chinas gone high tech with their genocide angle working all the ughyurs to death in bitcoin mines

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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That's an incredible way to stretch Chinese bitcoin mining as being related to the Xinjiang allegations

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

The re-education camps are actually mines.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

dying for xis bitcoin profits

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Bitcoin as safety valve to prevent the bourgeoisie from getting too overtly hostile?

One that can coincidentally gently caress a small but significant segment of the US financial sector (and Nvidia and AMD?) when it's shut down.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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