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I haven't deleted my vaccine appointment confirmation emails simply for an additional layer of proof.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:21
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Defenestrategy posted:I don't see how this matters? It's supremely stupid, but the cards shouldn't be used by any organization or event as a means of verifying vaccine status in the first place. Even if the cards where somehow strictly controlled and forgery proof, you'd still have shitheads borrowing other peoples cards or outright stealing them. It matters because having bad data about who has been vaccinated will impede the efforts of people doing contact tracing or tracking the spread of variants, which could lead to a misdirection of resources or misapplication of measures. My absolute biggest fear is that the pace of mutations will eclipse the glacial pace at which the world at large is vaccinating its residents. It’d be absolutely hilarious and horrifying if the first variant to really defeat the current vaccines originated in the US.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:22
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I, uh...have a quite different understanding of "hilarious".
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Apr 19, 2021 04:25
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Hillorifying.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:33
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For now though, the vaccines that we have are absurdly effective. Out of 75 million fully vaccinated so far, the CDC is aware of 5,814 breakthrough infections. https://twitter.com/DocJeffD/status/1383950294917160962 29% of those were asymptomatic, 7% hospitalized, 1% dead. Humans got profoundly lucky on the efficacy of these vaccines.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:46
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:It's honestly shocking how rarely cops, prosecutors, and judges are actually targeted in the US. With so many lives and families destroyed, you would expect more people taking that personally. To be fair cops make up for it by terrorizing their own families.
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Apr 19, 2021 04:59
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At the least, in Washington state, there is an online database to look up your vaccine record. Now, this isn’t foolproof - you may have to contact your doctor to ask for your vaccine record (as I did), and they may not have your covid vaccines on it (as they did not mine. But, county health directors keep a record of vaccinations, and generally that is uploaded into the state database where you can access it. https://myirmobile.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm8_J1LWJ8AIV_T6tBh2HYQ_-EAAYASAAEgLodfD_BwE In addition to that, my department is running vaccine clinics. They look you up in that database before giving the vaccine, and have already identified people who they classify as, “vaccine tourists.” That is, there are literally people out there who seek to get every shot possible as often as possible. So, there is already a system in place, in short. Edit: And yes, at least in WA, you can contact your doctor to ask for your vaccine record. I’m in my 30’s, and my infant vaccines were done in a different state, so I couldn’t get those. But, everything from middle school on was on there. Edit 2: I mean, obviously this doesn’t count for every state or, I dunno, whatever but... stop the hysteria? I can only speak to what I know, though, and not BFE, AL. windshipper fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Apr 19, 2021 05:01
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Traditionally, the way to deal with not having documentation of vaccines, for people who needed them to travel or work in childcare or whatever, was “go get jabbed again and get a record of it this time”. These vaccines are exceptional in two major ways. Supply of them is limited and we don’t have a long history showing that repeated vaccination is well-tolerated, so we don’t necessarily want people to go out and get more. We have been revaccinating people in some edge cases. quote:The Colorado Department of Health and Environment is advising individuals who received vaccines at Colorado Springs-based Dr. Moma Health and Wellness Clinic to consider the vaccination invalid, according to an April 13 news release. Pfizer’s also running a trial of third shots in case that provides even more protection, especially against potential escape variants.
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Apr 19, 2021 05:14
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:It's honestly shocking how rarely cops, prosecutors, and judges are actually targeted in the US. With so many lives and families destroyed, you would expect more people taking that personally. I just read Mississippi Mud, non-fiction about a circuit judge and his wife who were slain in 1987 by a hitman at home, and it took years to solve. turns out the judge’s former law partner had stolen lots of money from an imprisoned crime boss and convinced the guy it had been the judge. I had a buddy who worked as an assistant DA for a while and got the occasional death threat. Not fun and scary. He’s in private practice now.
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Apr 19, 2021 05:48
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I haven't deleted my vaccine appointment confirmation emails simply for an additional layer of proof. I hadn't thought of this, but it's a good idea.
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Apr 19, 2021 07:49
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https://twitter.com/Crimealytics/status/1383787550679072775
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Apr 19, 2021 08:06
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pantslesswithwolves posted:I wonder what’s going to happen when the statewide moratorium on evictions expires 45-60 days after the pandemic “ends.” That kind of seems like the “Wiley E. Coyote running off the edge of the cliff but not falling until he looks down” moment except with people shooting at sheriffs deputies coming to evict them. I don't think it'll happen
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Apr 19, 2021 08:43
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For those interested: he’s a boomer.
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Apr 19, 2021 12:28
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facialimpediment posted:For now though, the vaccines that we have are absurdly effective. Out of 75 million fully vaccinated so far, the CDC is aware of 5,814 breakthrough infections. I think that the qualifier here is “for now though.” The pace of vaccination in the rest of the world is super slow with some countries not expected to reach a level comparable to the US until 2023. I am concerned that this could allow the virus to continue spreading and mutating as it interacts with people who have been vaccinated. I just don’t think we’re out of the woods with this thing yet, and what’s happening in places like India and Bangladesh is pretty frightening.
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Apr 19, 2021 13:51
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pantslesswithwolves posted:I think that the qualifier here is “for now though.” The pace of vaccination in the rest of the world is super slow with some countries not expected to reach a level comparable to the US until 2023. I am concerned that this could allow the virus to continue spreading and mutating as it interacts with people who have been vaccinated. Both of those countries have deeply poor mega-urban centers with a human population per area that makes my head swim. You're right to be concerned, I agree we're not out of any woods, but comparing the US to India and Bangladesh necessitates glossing over some pretty major lifestyle differences that would have a major impact on the covid outcomes
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Apr 19, 2021 14:22
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We got insanely lucky that the mRNA vaccines became available when they did. They're a quantum leap that happened to land at the right time. And not the Scott Bakula kind of quantum leap.
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Apr 19, 2021 14:25
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https://twitter.com/thenewarea51/status/1383610098098970624?s=19
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Apr 19, 2021 14:26
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Why can’t the EU and Canada and all these counties with real functional healthcare systems not vaccinate at the same rate at as the US with our god awful lay-down-in-the-street-and-die “healthcare” system? This honestly makes no sense to me. The UK is doing well but France and Germany are barley at 20%. The USA even with a year of anti-vax hysteria from half the political system is at 40%.
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Apr 19, 2021 14:30
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davecrazy posted:Why can’t the EU and Canada and all these counties with real functional healthcare systems not vaccinate at the same rate at as the US with our god awful lay-down-in-the-street-and-die “healthcare” system? For Canada/Ontario, it was supply for a long time. We're actually vaccinating at a rate about equal to the US based on population (over 100k daily in a province of 13m). We're still being dicked over by Moderna but we got a bunch of extra doses from Pfizer, borrowed AZ from the US and JJ should be rolling out very soon. The messaging about AstraZeneca has been incredibly harmful. Lots of boomers are refusing a same day shot of AZ to wait for Pfizer/Moderna which delays younger people being eligible. It turned into a minor crisis over the weekend when pharmacies were making it known that AZ shots were going to expire because the 55+ crowd didnt want them. So they dropped the age to 40+ starting Tuesday.
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Apr 19, 2021 14:34
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davecrazy posted:Why can’t the EU and Canada and all these counties with real functional healthcare systems not vaccinate at the same rate at as the US with our god awful lay-down-in-the-street-and-die “healthcare” system? The short answer is that we did the opposite of everything that makes most healthcare in the US a nightmare. The government basically strongarmed vaccine manufacturers while throwing piles of money at them to secure a supply, and there's no up front cost to people getting the vaccine.
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Apr 19, 2021 14:46
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Closing arguments in the Chauvin trial, if you are so inclined: https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1384142806600404999?s=19
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Apr 19, 2021 15:08
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There really is no reforming this system https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1383731276193009672?s=20 https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/1383960517853646852?s=20 CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Apr 19, 2021 15:10
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CommieGIR posted:There really is no reforming this system Shocked, truly
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Apr 19, 2021 15:34
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CommieGIR posted:There really is no reforming this system "Active Duty" law enforcement?
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Apr 19, 2021 15:41
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PeterCat posted:"Active Duty" law enforcement? Yeah, it's fairly common here in the US to use militarized language while discussing the police, wouldn't you know?
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Apr 19, 2021 15:43
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:Yeah, it's fairly common here in the US to use militarized language while discussing the police, wouldn't you know? There are reserve police programs too. They are pretty common in the south to have reserve sheriff deputies. It’s all held up in racism of course, it’s how sheriffs could build a posey legally.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:08
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Ya every podunk two stop light down will have some small reserve force made up of geriatric old coots. or sometimes they have volunteers, even, that do traffic control type stuff It’s weird, and of course much more common with fire departments and such, where it actually makes sense
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Apr 19, 2021 16:17
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PeterCat posted:"Active Duty" law enforcement? American institutions tremble at the thought of a mobilized community of Oath Keepers in the street trained to the hawkeye accuracy and rigid discipline of the average American policeman.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:21
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Is being trained by a cop them just making sure you are as hair trigger and rage addicted as possible?
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Apr 19, 2021 16:27
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:Ya every podunk two stop light down will have some small reserve force made up of geriatric old coots. A lot of reserve officers do things like security at football games and such as well.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:27
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RFC2324 posted:Is being trained by a cop them just making sure you are as hair trigger and rage addicted as possible? The most "useful" things they could show extremist groups are how to stay off the radar of the wider police, and common police security measures for events to circumvent them.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:31
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Weird, I started googling Oath Keepers and how to join so I could get some law enforcement training to help defend my community, and all I keep finding is stuff about how they are aligned with hate groups and white nationalism and that a bunch of their members are catchin cases for the capitol riot why would the police want to be involved with this???
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Apr 19, 2021 16:37
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US Berder Patrol posted:Weird, I started googling Oath Keepers and how to join so I could get some law enforcement training to help defend my community, and all I keep finding is stuff about how they are aligned with hate groups and white nationalism and that a bunch of their members are catchin cases for the capitol riot Some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:38
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The guy that used to manage my storage unit is/was an Oathkeeper. Old as gently caress and used to walk around in cargo shorts with a lovely moto t-shirt and an open carry handgun in a holster year-round. I was cleaning some poo poo our one day, and went to use the restroom, and on the back of the toilet was his lovely Taurus or Ruger, just hanging out waiting for someone to steal it. Against my better judgement, I went to the office to let him know that he forgot his lovely gun, he was embarrassed to say the least. In hindsight I should have reported it as an abandoned weapon or something. Anyhow thats the kind of idiots that think they are the only thing standing between us and the Chinese.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:38
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Never mind, I finally found their website. All I have to do is send them a copy of my DD-214, and a $50 annual or $1000 lifetime for dues. Do you think I should use copy Member 1? unfortunately oathkeepergearstore.com is down
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Apr 19, 2021 16:42
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https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1384160036910292998?s=19 I mostly just linked this because it's a short story in perfect form. Covid vaccines gave me blood clots and I felt like I was miscarrying. Except I didn't get the vaccine, I'm not pregnant, so maybe they adjusted the chemtrails to give me 5G hormones.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:45
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bengy81 posted:The guy that used to manage my storage unit is/was an Oathkeeper. Old as gently caress and used to walk around in cargo shorts with a lovely moto t-shirt and an open carry handgun in a holster year-round. I was cleaning some poo poo our one day, and went to use the restroom, and on the back of the toilet was his lovely Taurus or Ruger, just hanging out waiting for someone to steal it. Against my better judgement, I went to the office to let him know that he forgot his lovely gun, he was embarrassed to say the least. In hindsight I should have reported it as an abandoned weapon or something. Should've dropped it in the toilet and taken a dump on it.
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Apr 19, 2021 16:47
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davecrazy posted:Why can’t the EU and Canada and all these counties with real functional healthcare systems not vaccinate at the same rate at as the US with our god awful lay-down-in-the-street-and-die “healthcare” system? The UK and the US reserved the bulk of their vaccine production for domestic use, seems kind of gauche to look down at the rest of us for not getting it when you are literally keeping it for yourselves
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Apr 19, 2021 16:58
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not caring here posted:Should've dropped it in the toilet and taken a dump on it. "Someone didn't flush and it won't go down"
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Apr 19, 2021 17:11
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Eej posted:The UK and the US reserved the bulk of their vaccine production for domestic use, seems kind of gauche to look down at the rest of us for not getting it when you are literally keeping it for yourselves Willing to bet most Americans don't know this tho. Despite hearing it on the news it wouldn't have really registered with me if it hadn't been for people bitching about it in this thread, hearing it on the news consisted of one or two sentences on NPR, I can't imagine if more mainstream poo poo is mentioning it at all
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