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Wonder what kind of legal battleground this will lead to. Would it be completely out of the question, that some players can just terminate their contracts, if they face being expelled from their national team and so on? Either way, not a fan of this. At all. CL is already leaning so loving hard into the big clubs in the big leagues, that if they dont make CL it's because they are proper poo poo. Respect to loving Arsenal and Spurs for somehow getting into that group of clubs lol
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Woodenlung posted:Wonder what kind of legal battleground this will lead to. Would it be completely out of the question, that some players can just terminate their contracts, if they face being expelled from their national team and so on? bc it's nothing to do with form and everything to do with cash
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FullLeatherJacket posted:glazers bad but also sky bad and lol forever at them openly propagandizing against someone else doing the thing that they did and killing their business model
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I'm out of the loop but is the idea behind the super league just a way for the rich clubs to still have tv revenue coming in when they're not good enough in the CL etc?
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Empress Brosephine posted:I'm out of the loop but is the idea behind the super league just a way for the rich clubs to still have tv revenue coming in when they're not good enough in the CL etc? The idea is the rich clubs just get more revenue, period.
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Why would a broadcast company want to pay more for a comp with less interesting games?? Absolutely baffling. The CL was already too much ffs.
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https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=20 Well I guess that is one way of making Qatar 2022 more of a farce.
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Jose posted:Fully relegate all of them now for bringing the game.into disrepute for maximum lols Newcastle fans getting desperate.
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military cervix posted:https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=20 Well there it is. Now things get interesting. Wonder how much of that JPMC money will be for stuffing in suitcases for cash bribes.
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military cervix posted:https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384126392623714310?s=20 Hahahaha. This is becoming a bigger shitfest by the hour. Clubs that are publicly listed all rallied today on this ESL news, aka more investors buying. I mean business wise it makes sense unless the fans really follow through with their backlash which they often don't. Ulio fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Bape Culture posted:Why would a broadcast company want to pay more for a comp with less interesting games?? Absolutely baffling. The CL was already too much ffs.
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Just make it all home and home knockouts, random draw. Or at least that's what the Europa league should've done instead of following the champions league bloat strategy
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It’s impressively extra evil that they chose this moment to announce this as teams are trying to finish out their season without making GBS threads the bed, Champions/Europa League finals, playoffs of all sorts, etc Maximum chaos
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Empress Brosephine posted:I'm out of the loop but is the idea behind the super league just a way for the rich clubs to still have tv revenue coming in when they're not good enough in the CL etc? They get 1) up front investment capital from JP Morgan, 2) a larger share of a larger tv money pot than the CL offers because it's more games, split between fewer teams, and 3) less potential volatility as that lion's share of their revenue isn't dependent on performance (which means they have less incentive to bring in the best possible players, managers etc.). From an investor standpoint it's a fantastic idea as long as you don't believe that domestic competitions will have the balls to remove those clubs, or that customers will find it boring and the super league will see dwindling tv and sponsorship deals over time.
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I mean from a business perspective it is not hard to understand that top teams would prefer to play against Arsenal rather than Shakhtar Donetsk every year. Edit: Removed "other" from "other top teams", so as to not imply anything about Arsenal. military cervix fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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That's extra funny as Ceferin is the godfather to Agenllis child
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ilmucche posted:Just make it all home and home knockouts, random draw. This is one of my dumb hobby-horses that no-one likes or cares about (like all of my posting), but the old European Cup format was bad then and would be worse now despite old men's nostalgia. Brian Clough won two of them essentially by battering teams from countries that don't exist any more and then beating Malmo (which I think still exists, but I'm not going there to check) in the final. The Champions League format isn't inherently bad, it just needs to be balanced and weighted sensibly.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:This is one of my dumb hobby-horses that no-one likes or cares about (like all of my posting), but the old European Cup format was bad then and would be worse now despite old men's nostalgia. Brian Clough won two of them essentially by battering teams from countries that don't exist any more and then beating Malmo (which I think still exists, but I'm not going there to check) in the final. I think the champions league can stay as it is, but europa league is a joke anyway so let it be chaos.
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ilmucche posted:Just make it all home and home knockouts, random draw. This already got removed because of the big clubs crying that they wouldn't get a second chance after a freak result against a bunch of Norwegians, no way would they let it back. The 'shitload of boring mismatched games' problem is a direct result of the 'give us more shots to qualify to the latter stages' requests of the larger clubs, it's incredibly loving hypocritical of them to use that as a reason the competition is bad now.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:Malmo (which I think still exists, but I'm not going there to check) in the final. All I know is that it's where Zlatan got his start.
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CAZZIDIS!!!!! Also I know we’re all in agreement here but can we appreciate the irony of a UEFA executive calling someone else a snake and a liar
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Vando posted:This already got removed because of the big clubs crying that they wouldn't get a second chance after a freak result against a bunch of Norwegians, no way would they let it back. The 'shitload of boring mismatched games' problem is a direct result of the 'give us more shots to qualify to the latter stages' requests of the larger clubs, it's incredibly loving hypocritical of them to use that as a reason the competition is bad now. Didn’t the CL start because one year Napoli drew Real Madrid in the very first round, which pissed off Florentino Perez even though Madrid won that tie? Also I’m not saying, but I’m just saying, that people from my city warned you about how horrible Stan Kroenke is and that he would ruin everything you love for the chance to make a dollar
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Extremely casual Premier League follower here: does this mean the teams from each of these leagues (PL, etc.) are splintering off to form their own international league or are Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, etc. staying put and this is just another international tournament which grinds the PL season to a halt for a couple weeks each season?
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I'm assuming European Super League! will be out on all platforms but I can't seem to find a pre-order anywhere.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Extremely casual Premier League follower here: does this mean the teams from each of these leagues (PL, etc.) are splintering off to form their own international league or are Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, etc. staying put and this is just another international tournament which grinds the PL season to a halt for a couple weeks each season? this just replaces the weekday matches they'd spend getting knocked out of the EL and CL they will(hope to) stay in their domestic leagues
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CBJSprague24 posted:Extremely casual Premier League follower here: does this mean the teams from each of these leagues (PL, etc.) are splintering off to form their own international league or are Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, etc. staying put and this is just another international tournament which grinds the PL season to a halt for a couple weeks each season? its like a replacement for the champions league, except the member clubs cannot be excluded from it ever, and probably get a much bigger share of the revenue pie. what'll be interesting is if the current corrupt powers go through with their threats and kick the member clubs out of all the other leagues and competitions as punishment for starting their own corrupt thing, thus winning, but ending football
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I'd bet a lot the staying in domestic leagues thing is a ~5 year plan while the super league gets established though. After that it will be a move to a fully walled-off European franchise league.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Extremely casual Premier League follower here: does this mean the teams from each of these leagues (PL, etc.) are splintering off to form their own international league or are Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, etc. staying put and this is just another international tournament which grinds the PL season to a halt for a couple weeks each season? their preference is for it to replace the existing midweek Champions League (essentially a Champions League but certain teams are guaranteed a place), but as an inevitability everyone else has basically said that the door will be closed behind them and it'll be treated as a full breakaway from existing competitions including for FIFA national team eligibility how much of that will hold and how much of that is executives playing chicken with one another is a separate question
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Weedle posted:how many seasons until esl introduces ad breaks every quarter hour Ad breaks every ten minutes, and the NFL innovation of constantly showing the team ownership during the game while praising them will be introduced as well.
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Gigi Galli posted:CAZZIDIS!!!!! He's the godfather of Agnellis kid too. This poo poo is an hbo drama
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The Premier League is stuck because they're just as greedy and corrupt as the breakaways and don't actually want to do what's "good for the game/fans", their main interest is in trying to protect their current revenue which means keeping the breakaways in the league, likely with even more concessions down the road. Clean break needed. Fingers crossed some fiery Euro nutters escalate the drama further.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:This is one of my dumb hobby-horses that no-one likes or cares about (like all of my posting), but the old European Cup format was bad then and would be worse now despite old men's nostalgia. Brian Clough won two of them essentially by battering teams from countries that don't exist any more and then beating Malmo (which I think still exists, but I'm not going there to check) in the final.
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Flayer posted:48 team world cup The what now? Next you will be tell me the Euro finals are now 32 teams. I honestly think Uefa are shooting themselves by offering to ban players from internationals. The owners are probably delighted at this outcome.
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Collateral posted:The what now? Next you will be tell me the Euro finals are now 32 teams. Its to force the Players Union to take action likely
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FullLeatherJacket posted:their preference is for it to replace the existing midweek Champions League (essentially a Champions League but certain teams are guaranteed a place), but as an inevitability everyone else has basically said that the door will be closed behind them and it'll be treated as a full breakaway from existing competitions including for FIFA national team eligibility It's a shame that scheduling midweek league games for the same weeks this trash is supposed to be played would punish non-breakaway clubs as well
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