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Vegetable posted:The ESL is a bad idea for reasons of fairness, but those people thinking its matches would be boring are crazy. They would absolutely be more entertaining than watching Slavia Prague or Zenit get thumped for the umpteenth time. I admit that watching Arsenal get thumped for the umpteenth time instead will be more entertaining.
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Pook Good Mook posted:It would transform a CL quarterfinal matchup between Man City vs. Inter from a once in a decade thing to the equivalent of the Miami Dolphins vs. the Buffalo Bills in the middle of the NFL season when the Patriots have already qualified for the playoffs. Quality of play aside, who the gently caress cares. The NFL intentionally schedules the worst games possible for Monday Night Football as punishment for ESPN and they still outdraw pretty much everything else, to the point where networks actively try not to compete with it.
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HMS Beagle posted:I'll watch it if they call it soccer and let the New York Red Bulls join. It's a battle of the royal heavyweights as Real Madrid visit Real Salt Lake! We're live in Sandy, Utah, only on Fox Sports! Alexi, what's your take on tonight's game?
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Jamie Carragher getting way to excited about the power of fans and expecting "godlike" Klopp to put a stop to everything.
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peanut- posted:I admit that watching Arsenal get thumped for the umpteenth time instead will be more entertaining.
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oliwan posted:I can recommend listening to the first part of todays football weekly which is about the european super league Guardian Football Weekly is a great podcast, especially when Barry is cackling at an England loss
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oliwan posted:jonathan Wilson's take that the super league teams could actually join the football league and then rule over the premier league is actually quite good loving bizarre timeline So this is all poo poo and bollocks obviously but I'm having a hard time with all the sanctimony as if it's not actually a bunch of billionaire cunts betraying a different other bunch of billionaire cunts. Sky and governing bodies allowed/enabled the Premier League, the Champions League, the Glazers, FSG, Abramovich, whole single ownership of clubs, the Mansours, debt and all the other poo poo that's brought football to this point. The talk as if football was great and fine and didn't have massive wealth gaps before this came along is loving tiresome. Despite how public it all is now I'll still be amazed if by next season UEFA haven't made sufficient kissy noises and made the CL and even bigger and better cash cow and this all goes away again.
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greazeball posted:will the ESL have VAR? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/19/revealed-unpublished-super-league-document-justifying-breakaway quote:“The Super League ownership and governance structure is designed to allow us to rapidly adopt and incorporate new ideas into the competition. Whether it’s changes in live match distribution formats, technology-enhanced rule implementation or player development, we can no longer rely on external bodies to drive progress in these areas.” Super VAR
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When you think about it, the super league would be a competition where arsenal and spurs would be continually humiliated, their delusional aspirations finally stamped into the ground for good as they are forever in last place, the laughing stock of the league
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rear end cobra posted:love the american takes getting really tired of these racist takes that boil down to "asian and african fans are just inherently different from european fans"
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oliwan posted:When you think about it, the super league would be a competition where arsenal and spurs would be continually humiliated, their delusional aspirations finally stamped into the ground for good as they are forever in last place, the laughing stock of the league  It is the one thing in the "pro" column thus far
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Apr 19, 2021 23:10
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Vegetable posted:The ESL is a bad idea for reasons of fairness, but those people thinking its matches would be boring are crazy. They would absolutely be more entertaining than watching Slavia Prague or Zenit get thumped for the umpteenth time. Inter and United didn't make it out of their groups this year, and it's a million times more fun as a neutral to support Atalanta or Ajax making it far than watching the 9th Chelsea vs City match in a calendar year
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oliwan posted:jonathan Wilson's take that the super league teams could actually join the football league and then rule over the premier league is actually quite good
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Vegetable posted:The ESL is a bad idea for reasons of fairness, but those people thinking its matches would be boring are crazy. They would absolutely be more entertaining than watching Slavia Prague or Zenit get thumped for the umpteenth time. The games would be boring because there's effectively nothing at stake, not because the teams are bad
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oliwan posted:When you think about it, the super league would be a competition where arsenal and spurs would be continually humiliated, their delusional aspirations finally stamped into the ground for good as they are forever in last place, the laughing stock of the league this is why they will have 5 whipping boy teams promoted "on merit" each year so none of the world's "legacy fans" will have to suffer the disgrace of a bottom finish
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greazeball posted:this is why they will have 5 whipping boy teams promoted "on merit" each year so none of the world's "legacy fans" will have to suffer the disgrace of a bottom finish they'll dick spurs and arsenal over as well
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Bundy posted:It is the one thing in the "pro" column thus far Do me a favor and stop posting this meme please, it’s gross. E: not you specifically, everyone.
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oliwan posted:When you think about it, the super league would be a competition where arsenal and spurs would be continually humiliated, their delusional aspirations finally stamped into the ground for good as they are forever in last place, the laughing stock of the league it might make the owners a tidy sum though idk i get the impression that people are legitimately pissed enough about this to stop buying merch/subscriptions. it may still end up in the black for a good while but i can see european fans actually managing to boycott this nonsense in a meaningful way and at least costing a bank with infinite money some money
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oliwan posted:When you think about it, the super league would be a competition where arsenal and spurs would be continually humiliated, their delusional aspirations finally stamped into the ground for good as they are forever in last place, the laughing stock of the league may i remind you that they invited arsenal, a team whose last adventure in top-level european competition ended up with the score not fitting on the tv graphic Bundy posted:So this is all poo poo and bollocks obviously but I'm having a hard time with all the sanctimony as if it's not actually a bunch of billionaire cunts betraying a different other bunch of billionaire cunts. yeah, I mentioned this earlier on, but Sky's incredibly transparent editorial line where they definitely heard from an unnamed source that the super league owners are planning on digging up Bobby Moore's corpse and grinding his bones with chisels and hammers like biblical kings is pretty much the only thing I've seen so far that can go in the "pro" column a bloo bloo bloo you can't do a breakaway league and take football away from the fans; how will they keep paying us £60 a month to watch the breakaway league we financed and put behind a paywall
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greazeball posted:this is why they will have 5 whipping boy teams promoted "on merit" each year so none of the world's "legacy fans" will have to suffer the disgrace of a bottom finish implying those 5 won't still beat arsenal/spurs
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Surely this will mark the point where 'legacy' fans finally give up on the travesty that international club football has become and retreat back into domestic leagues leaving this capitalism driven wasteland of a competition behind. That being said, millions will still tune in to the Super League and it will be hugely successful in a commercial sense
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Pook Good Mook posted:It would transform a CL quarterfinal matchup between Man City vs. Inter from a once in a decade thing to the equivalent of the Miami Dolphins vs. the Buffalo Bills in the middle of the NFL season when the Patriots have already qualified for the playoffs. Quality of play aside, who the gently caress cares. the dolphins vs bills game still dominates from a ratings perspective against anything else on tv
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what does the super league look like if it expands to the size of an american league? the nfl has 32 teams. the mlb has 30. who is in and who is out if the super league has 30ish clubs?
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lol thats the first ex-player ive seen make postive sentiments towards this in any way, what a total oval office. Are there any others??? Jozy quite rightly re-tweeted this https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/1384252327691898886 and Micah Richards made a similar point about uefa on the radio before the game 
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cadfael posted:lol thats the first ex-player ive seen make postive sentiments towards this in any way, what a total oval office. Are there any others??? Jozy quite rightly re-tweeted this https://twitter.com/MelissaReddy_/status/1384252327691898886 and Micah Richards made a similar point about uefa on the radio before the game I assume Philip Lahm is for it because he wrote an entire article less than a week ago about how a super league was a wonderful idea and we should all welcome it as the future in football-related brand content.
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i have a feeling that the super league will use periodic expansion team spots as a way to seduce decent/mid-level clubs into siding with the super league founders on the domestic league front, until the super league hits some arbitrary number of clubs and then bounces itself from domestic competition completely. i think the current structure of football will be permanently hosed
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like do you guys really think leicester or everton would say no to a spot in an expanded super league?
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i'm a pretty casual european football fan, but i've followed everton for a few years now and at this point my greatest fear is that they'll be permanently left behind because they're just beyond the cutoff line of big money clubs.
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sudo rm -rf posted:like do you guys really think leicester or everton would say no to a spot in an expanded super league? are we assuming jp morgan will cough up as much as they did now in that future when it very well might not be going as well as they predicted?
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sudo rm -rf posted:like do you guys really think leicester or everton would say no to a spot in an expanded super league? Depends if the super league is a success or not at that point, and if JP Morgan is offering more bribes like the founders are getting.
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sudo rm -rf posted:what does the super league look like if it expands to the size of an american league? the nfl has 32 teams. the mlb has 30. who is in and who is out if the super league has 30ish clubs? The current lot plus a bunch of mls and chinese shithouses rounded out by Dubai and Qatar FC
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I dont see how this would financially save leagues/clubs, is he having a laff? https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano this guy kindly did some transcipts of that interview
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Karl Sharks posted:are we assuming jp morgan will cough up as much as they did now in that future when it very well might not be going as well as they predicted? yeah i'm assuming the super league does very well i think that's part of my cynicism
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sudo rm -rf posted:yeah i'm assuming the super league does very well i think idiots with too much money right now will not make good decisions for long term success on another note, from someone's point itc, has anything been mentioned yet about how they're going to cater to both north american and asian audiences w/r/t match times?
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cadfael posted:I dont see how this would financially save leagues/clubs, is he having a laff? https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano this guy kindly did some transcipts of that interview
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Not that this year has been terribly exciting, but imagine the Premier League if this shite was already in place for this year. City have had the league sewn up for ages, leaving themselves, United, Pool, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal with nothing to play for for the past couple of months (not that Arsenal's had anything to play for since then anyway). Leicester and West Ham have 2 of the CL spots cemented with the only thing left to figure out is which 2 of Everton, Leeds and Villa fill in the other 2 spots. People would have stopped caring completely long ago.
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cadfael posted:I dont see how this would financially save leagues/clubs, is he having a laff? https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano this guy kindly did some transcipts of that interview https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384276887761940489?s=20 lmao football would DIE if jp morgan didn't give a few clubs a bunch of money
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Karl Sharks posted:https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1384276887761940489?s=20 was just about to post this same one, this poo poo is ludicrous
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