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Velocity Raptor posted:I never said that what she said was wrong. In fact, I literally said the opposite. It's a factor because of racism, not because what she said was wrong or the timing of what she said. I realize you don't think she was wrong. You're still buying into her having done anything wrong at all.
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Piell posted:Verdict incoming in the next hour and a half This is central time, correct?
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Apr 20, 2021 20:35
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Piell posted:Verdict incoming in the next hour and a half Quick is usually a conviction but all bets are off since this is a cop.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:37
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Velocity Raptor posted:This is central time, correct? Correct
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Apr 20, 2021 20:37
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Jaxyon posted:Quick is usually a conviction but all bets are off since this is a cop. OJ Simpson would like a word with you.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:38
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I expected them to get hung up on the murder 3 charge for a few days so I'm expecting a full acquittal disaster or they actually stuck the murder 3.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:40
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Piell posted:Verdict incoming in the next hour and a half they say you can't predict based on timing, but this feels like it has to be guilty on at least one charge. this wasn't enough time to be a hung jury and i pray to all merciful god that they can't possibly unanimously acquit
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IT BURNS posted:OJ Simpson would like a word with you. Hopefully that word is 'usually' and we can talk about how you don't understand what it means. But I'm prepared to eat my words I have always thought a Chauvin acquittal was at least 50% likely. Also apparently the data doesn't back me up.
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That's not a good sign.  Hopefully that's just a general precaution and not a precaution of "people are gonna riot because Chauvin has been acquitted."E: Link to live stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm48swwALnc vv That's good to hear. Velocity Raptor fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Apr 20, 2021 20:42
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Velocity Raptor posted:That's not a good sign. It’s normal. They do not know the verdict, but they are taking precautions. We have seen courthouses do similar things around the country for less high-profile cases where they thought there might be riots.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:44
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Velocity Raptor posted:That's not a good sign. I’d be genuinely shocked if he was acquitted. The prosecution did a mostly great job and had the cops testifying against him.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:44
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Definitely a precaution, my office is doing it too
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Apr 20, 2021 20:44
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I’d be genuinely shocked if he was acquitted. The prosecution did a mostly great job and had the cops testifying against him. Yea, I agree with this. The biggest question is the murder 2 charge. But even that, I feel like was covered well enough by the state to have everyone say "nope" this quickly.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:46
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I mean given what CNN said of the makeup of the trial, that the jury had at least a few medical professionals on it, you'd figure that the defense's "don't trust the medical professionals" defense kind of fell flat on its face. I think we were all expecting a hung jury, for there to at least be one "well my brother's a cop and Blue Lives Matter" types and one "George Floyd could have been me or my brother" person, for them to never be able to form a unanimous agreement.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:46
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The tension is horrible. Please, please, please convict. Please convict on at least one charge; a man was murdered in broad daylight, on camera, in front of a crowd. He cannot be acquitted.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:47
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Do we want to set up a pool to see how long it takes chuds to wail about decorum if a guilty verdict is reached and people are happy about it?
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Apr 20, 2021 20:49
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They'll find him super-innocent and declare him King Cop. Parade soon to follow.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:50
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There will definitely be a parade that's for sure
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Apr 20, 2021 20:53
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Jaxyon posted:When was a "good time" for her to express her feelings about oppression and death she lives with every single day?
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Apr 20, 2021 20:57
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Jaxyon posted:Hopefully that word is 'usually' and we can talk about how you don't understand what it means. Hopefully you can maybe...chill at an innocuous post on the internet? My prediction is that he's more likely to be convicted of manslaughter and acquitted on the other two charges than convicted of all three or acquitted of all three.
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Apr 20, 2021 20:58
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Gaupo Guacho posted:literally the instant the verdict is delivered lol. absolutely no one ITT is objecting to the content of what she said Nah they're buying into the racist framing that she somehow did anything wrong. Which is super loving dumb. Gaupo Guacho posted:maxine waters is a loving dumbass o rly
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Apr 20, 2021 20:59
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Jaxyon posted:Nah they're buying into the racist framing that she somehow did anything wrong.
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I don't think there would have ever been a 'good time' for Waters to opine on Chauvin without racists* screeching about "adding fuel to the fire". The right-wing hate-o-sphere has already spun them up to have a knee jerk reaction to anything she says and does. * I'm specifically referring to people like Mike Lester, Michael Ramirez, Boebert, etc. and not anyone ITT.
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Gaupo Guacho posted:I can call whomever I want to a dumbass without your insinuations that im a racist lmao. im not even white I said, flat out, that you're buying racist framings. Maybe deal with that instead of spending so much time explaining how you're very not racist and nobody can tell you what to say. Waters isn't a dumbass and she said a completely OK thing at a completely OK time and literally every word that comes out of her mouth is made into a problem by a vast white supremacist media machine.
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Apr 20, 2021 21:04
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Jaxyon posted:I said, flat out, that you're buying racist framings. How does someone win this argument with you in a way that isn't "you're so right Jaxyon, I guess I'll go inspect my biases now. Thanks for being right!"?
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Apr 20, 2021 21:07
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Jaxyon posted:I said, flat out, that you're buying racist framings. I think Maxine Waters made a remark that could inflame the situation and was dumb considering the circumstances, even if I agree with the message. And that doesn't make me or anyone else a racist or buying into right wing propaganda.
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Gumball Gumption posted:How does someone win this argument with you in a way that isn't "you're so right Jaxyon, I guess I'll go inspect my biases now. Thanks for being right!"? It's not about winning arguments and the fact that you see it this way is pretty telling. But I can tell you that explaining how ridiculous it is that anyone could possible see anything you did as wrong or racist sure isn't going to do it. Nelson Mandingo posted:I think Maxine Waters made a remark that could inflame the situation and was dumb considering the circumstances, even if I agree with the message. And that doesn't make me or anyone else a racist or buying into right wing propaganda. Opening her mouth at all inflames the situation because racists are ready to go off no matter what she says.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I think Maxine Waters made a remark that could inflame the situation and was dumb considering the circumstances, even if I agree with the message. And that doesn't make me or anyone else a racist or buying into right wing propaganda. Maxine Waters is the members of the people who are the victims. We really gotta stop giving weight to the "Well the victims are angry there's been absolutely no consequences so we need to give leniency to the perpetrator" crap. That is a problem. Regardless of her timing, her message was valid, but it was a message that was only just an echo of messages already prevalent in the very community around this miscarriage of justice. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 20, 2021 |
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Apr 20, 2021 21:14
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If he is found guilty today, will he also be sentenced today? I don't know how this works.
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Apr 20, 2021 21:16
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Skyarb posted:If he is found guilty today, will he also be sentenced today? I don't know how this works. Within 90 days, typically, according to google. quote:Typically, sentencing will take place ninety days after a guilty plea or guilty verdict. Prior to sentencing, the judge must calculate the applicable guidelines range. The Sentencing Guidelines are a set of rules which apply in federal sentencing.
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Apr 20, 2021 21:18
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Skyarb posted:If he is found guilty today, will he also be sentenced today? I don't know how this works. No, sentencing is usually at a later date.
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Apr 20, 2021 21:20
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So I'm not sure if I'm messing up time zones, but the verdict should be read in about 5 minutes right?
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ryde posted:So I'm not sure if I'm messing up time zones, but the verdict should be read in about 5 minutes right? Nope, you've got it right. Starting in a couple of minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm48swwALnc
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maxine was wrong because she was way too soft by just saying take it to the streets if chauvin is acquitted we need to 1968 this shithole country and then keep going
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Apr 20, 2021 21:28
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ryde posted:So I'm not sure if I'm messing up time zones, but the verdict should be read in about 5 minutes right? Any time in the next 30 minutes.
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Apr 20, 2021 21:30
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"Hey we need to interview someone about how they feel about this verdict, who should we get?" "I know, I'll interview this random white girl who will talk about how the real victim of this verdict could be tourism".
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Apr 20, 2021 21:38
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So I just heard that the juror's names will eventually be released? I thought they were kept anonymous in perpetuity. Is this normal? I'm kind of worried, assuming they convict - especially of the more appropriate crimes - that the pigs might retaliate.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:maxine was wrong because she was way too soft by just saying take it to the streets I'd rather not go back to Nixon again. 
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Skyarb posted:"Hey we need to interview someone about how they feel about this verdict, who should we get?"  I stopped listening after about 5 seconds, so I didn't even know that's what she was talking about.E: RoboChrist 9000 posted:So I just heard that the juror's names will eventually be released? I thought they were kept anonymous in perpetuity.
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