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mediaphage posted:it gets used for modelling massive data sets Understood but...why? Are you using something that requires Metal or?...
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Crunchy Black posted:Understood but...why? Are you using something that requires Metal or?... i’m not using it my so is, i just found and bought the ram for it and helped diagnose the problem it’s ml research and easier to get ram to install in a work computer at home than to get a ram upgrade to the server somewhere in a maze on campus during a pandemic otherwise prolly wouldn’t have gone above 32
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njsykora posted:Is USB 3.1 gen 2 the one that's red on USB-A connectors or is that one of the other dozen USB 3 standards? You mean USB 3.2 gen 2? Afaik all USB 3 derivatives USB-A connectors should be blue, some OEMs use different colors but I don't think any of them are a standard.
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Apr 21, 2021 05:41
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I wonder if apple putting Ethernet on MagSafe is a trial for a magnetic dock/docking standard for MacBook in the future Like, power over MagSafe sounds good enough but imagine Thunderbolt over MagSafe
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Apr 21, 2021 05:46
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Ok Comboomer posted:I wonder if apple putting Ethernet on MagSafe is a trial for a magnetic dock/docking standard for MacBook in the future This would be my hope. I'm totally okay with losing USB-C "standard-tivity" with chargers if it means MagSafe comes back and they can incorporate an OcuLink or TB4/USB connection to the brick...would open the door for 3rd parties to make compatible "charging docks" etc...
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Apr 21, 2021 05:52
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My understanding from articles I've read is that the magnetic power cable for the new iMac is a thunderbolt cable - that's why it does power and ethernet.
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Apr 21, 2021 05:53
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I didn't know desktops would have magnetic power plugs but now I kind of want one in everything. I'm assuming it will be compatible with future laptops as well.
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Apr 21, 2021 06:05
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Nice. Now if they could give the full Shortbread recipe....
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Mu Zeta posted:I didn't know desktops would have magnetic power plugs but now I kind of want one in everything. I'm assuming it will be compatible with future laptops as well.
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Apr 21, 2021 06:38
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I haven’t had an iMac since 2016 when I finally quit using my then decade old intel model. Today’s presentation has made me want the M1 iMac a whole lot.
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Apr 21, 2021 06:56
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Why are you all so riled up about the chin, the new iMac is literally so small
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Apr 21, 2021 07:08
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Nicest looking desktop I’ve ever seen tbqh
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Honj Steak posted:This way you effectively just limit your battery capacity earlier in the lifespan of the device rather than later. Batteries are degrading no matter what you do and companies should be compelled to make it affordable and accessible to switch an old battery out. I'll never understand why apple make this so hard. I get theres ergnomic factors. But a lot of countries, including Australia, have laws that require apple to make the process as cheap as possible for the consumer, or make it abundantly clear at purchase that the mac isnt a purchase that will last more than a few years (which apple dont). Cos replacing half the mac cos the batteries are physically melded with the case or motherboard cant be cheapWorse, Lithium batteries innevitably become hazardous after a while (Likely some time after they stop holding charge), and that becomes a mandatory free repair in Australia and parts of the EU. If this is costing Apple big money, why not just change strategy and figure out how to make the batteries easily replaceable.
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Apr 21, 2021 07:20
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I think the iMac looks awesome. I don't have a need for one, but I sure do like them more than the older one's. Red wunzz go fasta!
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duck monster posted:I'll never understand why apple make this so hard. I get theres ergnomic factors. But a lot of countries, including Australia, have laws that require apple to make the process as cheap as possible for the consumer, or make it abundantly clear at purchase that the mac isnt a purchase that will last more than a few years (which apple dont). Cos replacing half the mac cos the batteries are physically melded with the case or motherboard cant be cheapWorse, Lithium batteries innevitably become hazardous after a while (Likely some time after they stop holding charge), and that becomes a mandatory free repair in Australia and parts of the EU. If this is costing Apple big money, why not just change strategy and figure out how to make the batteries easily replaceable. They must make up for it with massive sales in the US and China and other places that don't care about consumers/environment. Being able to make thin computers is pretty cool and nobody else is really doing it to this extent. In some ways I wish it was easier to swap batteries but I'm glad someone out there is pushing designs as far as they can go.
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Apr 21, 2021 07:34
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99% of people who ever buy a laptop aren’t going to replace the battery by themselves so why does it matter if it’s not user replaceable. Users don’t do that. They user researched this already
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Apr 21, 2021 07:37
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I bet a lot of people would replace their batteries if they were user replaceable.
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Apr 21, 2021 07:39
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The question is how much money it costs apple in parts and labor to replace the battery and if it's cost efficient. Looking at iFixit's tutorial it looks pretty hard and I bet they hate doing it. But I think they hardly get battery replacement requests in the first place even in Australia.
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Apr 21, 2021 07:42
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All I want is for the iMac to sell unbelievably well so that the next MBA/MBP refresh gets the fun colors and I can finally upgrade from the mid 2015 MBP, aka the best laptop Apple ever made.
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Apr 21, 2021 07:44
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American McGay posted:I bet a lot of people would replace their batteries if they were user replaceable. They absolutely would. They would also use the cheapest Chinese knock off they could find and then the poo poo explodes.
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Apr 21, 2021 08:28
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AverySpecialfriend posted:99% of people who ever buy a laptop aren’t going to replace the battery by themselves so why does it matter if it’s not user replaceable. Users don’t do that. They user researched this already Any link to this study? Laptop batteries are (or at least once were) insanely easy to change and they sold laptop batteries in stores.
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mediaphage posted:yeah all ports on the new imacs will be usb-c. of those, two will be usb-3. two will be tbolt/usb-4. if you only get two ports on your model, they will both be the latter.
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TACD posted:Is there a technical reason / benefit for this or is it just cost saving? Would things break if all four were Thunderbolt / USB4? they could have had the ports share a bus if they wanted, i guess, like on intel macs and say they had four ports. thus far m1 macs have shipped with two separate thunderbolt buses; it will be interesting to see whether each of these ports has their own, or if they share one and a second is taken by the power/networking cable as referenced above. either way it’s not a huge deal because thunderbolt 4 supports thunderbolt hubs which allow for up to three devices to be connected to a single port without needing to daisy chain.
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Apr 21, 2021 12:33
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Noted once more that the M1 iMac only has support for one external display, 6K @ 60 Hz. As if I would buy an iMac, then pay 3x the price for a supplemental monitor..
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Apr 21, 2021 13:01
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I would be fully into the new iMac design if the color on the face and stand was solid like the back, rather than pale. They almost had a bold look but pulled back.
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TACD posted:Is there a technical reason / benefit for this or is it just cost saving? Would things break if all four were Thunderbolt / USB4? I think the current M1 only supports two, and they are just using the same chip in everything. Which is technically just “cost savings” but pretty justifiable.
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:I would be fully into the new iMac design if the color on the face and stand was solid like the back, rather than pale. They almost had a bold look but pulled back. i think they look pretty bold. i said this somewhere else but i think it’s because having a bright non-neutral colour directly next to the display probably makes colours on the display look weird
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Apr 21, 2021 13:42
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This is the dumbest looking Mac ever. Why do people like this stupid thing.
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Bob Morales posted:This is the dumbest looking Mac ever. Why do people like this stupid thing. I think we’re just gonna have to chalk it up to one of those things that you just don’t and won’t understand, Bob, like police brutality and how viruses work
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Bob Morales posted:MOUSE
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Bob Morales posted:This is the dumbest looking Mac ever. Why do people like this stupid thing. Honestly, I don’t think it’s aging particular well. Those old plastics are starting to feel cheap when every $10 decide now uses better ones.
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Ok Comboomer posted:I think we’re just gonna have to chalk it up to one of those things that you just don’t and won’t understand, Bob, like police brutality and how viruses work I'm not going to say whether I like it or not because this is the first time I've seen it and it lacks context.
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Khorne posted:It looks like a thermostat screen from a wall panel from the 80s paired with a coffee maker. bruh everything in the 90s that tried to be futuristic looked like that....until G3 iMac and PowerMac came out
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Apr 21, 2021 14:55
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Painted plastic is bad, anything that involves a soft-touch coating is bad because it's going to degrade over time. Everything plastic should be made like a power tool - with glass reinforcing and bold dyes, I want all my computers to look like a Milwaukee drill.
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Apr 21, 2021 14:58
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American McGay posted:I bet a lot of people would replace their batteries if they were user replaceable. Have you actually met the average laptop user or are you just basing this on... What are you basing this on exactly?
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when i was doing tech writing for websites one day we got a box. i opened it up expecting to see some loaner review units or something. inside was a ton of bubble wrap, covering two muddy acer laptops. they didn’t have batteries. there was a hand-written note on notebook paper asking us to please add batteries or upgrade them or something, i can’t remember. attached to the note was a check for like $200. i managed to track down their phone number and gave them a call to explain that we weren’t in that sort of business and shipped it back to them for free.
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AverySpecialfriend posted:Have you actually met the average laptop user or are you just basing this on... What are you basing this on exactly? Average users' batteries are dead or last less than 30 minutes
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At a guess Apple has enough information to know what the expected life of their products are in the wild and that almost all of them will be in a landfill before the battery needs servicing. From a logistics stand point it's probably cheaper for them to ship the few thousand products a year that they are required to support to a service location have them serviced and ship them back than to make any changes to the design to support lower tier centers doing the work. Especially once you understand that the bulk shipping deals the big multinationals have with the shippers is that it costs a few cents a kilo to overnight something across a country.
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