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ReidRansom posted:OTOH, it has only been 3 months since he left office. I think he'll start losing relevance soon enough. But then I'm frequently wrong. I was going to say "I hope so [that he will lose influence]" but I'm not sure now. Trump's influence isn't making the GOP much eviler, but it's making them a lot more stupid. One might also ask, what's the GOP's relevance to Trump, and how does that influence him? The man goes where he needs to go, and says what he needs to say, to get applause and attention. If the GOP and Fox told him to gently caress off, he'd focus in on OANN and the Proud Boys, and say what he thinks they want to hear, and that could actually be a lot more dangerous. Civilized Fishbot fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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ReidRansom posted:OTOH, it has only been 3 months since he left office. I think he'll start losing relevance soon enough. But then I'm frequently wrong. "Surely Trump will become less influential soon" says increasingly worried man for the fourth time.
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Josef bugman posted:Yes, the most recent one rested on the laurels of losing back in 2008? Like, this was in response to Chris Christy failing to do something he wanted to, right? It was a bit different with Clinton, though. Obama basically gave her the keys to the entire Democratic party apparatus to buy her cooperation. Christie doesn't have that.
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ReidRansom posted:It was a bit different with Clinton, though. Obama basically gave her the keys to the entire Democratic party apparatus to buy her cooperation. Christie doesn't have that. God what a mess that turned out to be didn't it. And true on the second point.
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Josef bugman posted:"Surely Trump will become less influential soon" says increasingly worried man for the fourth time. He became a lot less influential almost exactly three months ago and also became a lot less influential about two and a half months before that.
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Slowpoke! posted:Amazing how running a failed campaign is seen as a positive.  Chris Christie."Fresh and without the stink of failure" tends to come into conflict with "Untested and unproven". Good candidates, generally those who are charismatic and great in individual/small settings with competent staff, can lean heavily into the former in a way that defangs the latter. From the politico piece I linked upthread, though: His own staff! posted:DeSantis loyalists acknowledge that even in 2018, in the midst of a messy primary fight, they were aware of their candidate’s higher aspirations—and the long-term work required to mold a gaffe-prone congressman with a notable lack of people skills into the national candidate he already thought he was. Again, his own staff posted:But DeSantis’ success with Adelson is a conspicuous exception in his fundraising. He is notorious for his poor skills tending to the run-of-the-mill millionaires who populate the national fundraising circuit. Multiple people who spoke to POLITICO said DeSantis lacks what is known in campaign parlance as “donor maintenance”—knowing something about your donors, calling them on their birthdays, sending them a note when their kid graduates from college. Space Gopher posted:I don't think DeSantis is going to be the guy, but "everyone has their knives out for him already" doesn't mean he's doomed. Everybody in the 2016 Republican primaries went hard after Trump from the minute he rode down that escalator, and, welp fool of sound posted:Hey fishbot and paracaidas can you please take your local dsa drama argument to pms or something  noted
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fool of sound posted:Hey fishbot and paracaidas can you please take your local dsa drama argument to pms or something Whoops, noted
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The way they tried to knock him out was to say he is right but he is saying it wrong. They all wanted his policy goals, he was just so starkly and transparently bigoted and fascist they didn't realize that it was their base now. Coupled with the free media he was getting, no Republican knew how to actually dislodge him.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:"We rise from the ashes" is a badass thing to say on your city flag. Boston's is some bullshit about loving god. I just like how Detroit invented the Drake no/yes meme 70 years ago
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Space Gopher posted:I don't think DeSantis is going to be the guy, but "everyone has their knives out for him already" doesn't mean he's doomed. Everybody in the 2016 Republican primaries went hard after Trump from the minute he rode down that escalator, and, welp Thats true but theres a big time difference between the two. Having knives out for you 3 years ahead of time is probably the textbook definition of peaking too early.
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I feel like we never bring up that desantis won his house seat using the same stolen information about Florida that trump got.
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Skippy McPants posted:Not while Florida still exists as a much better target. Sell Florida to Cuba (and give Guantanamo Bay as a bonus)
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1384887094259032064 Is it really teeing off if he keeps swinging and missing
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Space Gopher posted:I don't think DeSantis is going to be the guy, but "everyone has their knives out for him already" doesn't mean he's doomed. Everybody in the 2016 Republican primaries went hard after Trump from the minute he rode down that escalator, and, welp That’s literally the opposite of what happened, though. Trump came down the escalator and literally all his opponents said “this guy’s a clown, there’s no need to give a poo poo about him” and kept going after each other, with a Walker being the first target and then Jeb! after. Even after Trump won NH, Rubio and Christie were still fighting each other more than Trump. The actual “oh poo poo we need to stop Trump” didn’t come until after Super Tuesday and people dropped to let Cruz be the sole alternate, and it was too late.
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Some wag on twitter said that the journalistic marveling at DeSantis' political acumen reminds them of all the Scott Walker hype, and I tend to agree.
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zoux posted:Some wag on twitter said that the journalistic marveling at DeSantis' political acumen reminds them of all the Scott Walker hype, and I tend to agree. I mean, clearly the media is trying to set someone up to be the front runner so they know where to direct their attention. DeSantis's media team knows this and they play the national media like a fiddle.
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ReidRansom posted:It was a bit different with Clinton, though. Obama basically gave her the keys to the entire Democratic party apparatus to buy her cooperation. Christie doesn't have that. Losing a primary is also very different than losing the general. Your typical low information voter doesn’t give a dB about primaries, but they will absolutely remember who lost the general.
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lol you know what also never builds back never? never bringing your own bill even when they controlled 2.9999999.......999999999 branches of gov. loving christ you stupid tortoise. e: reminder that Scott Walker got married on Regans birthday so when he and his wife do the christian ritual of procreation for Jesus, he could think of Regan. also his choice of lunch sandwiches and his bald spot from hitting himself with a hammer. e2: Christie's Obama hug is going to kill his chances. I hope chuds remember that. PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Apr 21, 2021 |
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Slowpoke! posted:Amazing how running a failed campaign is seen as a positive. Wait, which wing is the diseased one? Or rather, which is healthy?
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I feel like Trump would kill Christie’s campaign on purpose if only because of how much he liked to humiliate him.
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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1384882691838025732?s=21 Tucker is going to invoke the twinkie defense on air for his college faux pas, calling it now.
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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1384882691838025732?s=21 I dunno, the amount of explaining you'd have to do to get the average American to understand this as a scandal...well it's not a blackface frat party
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zoux posted:I dunno, the amount of explaining you'd have to do to get the average American to understand this as a scandal...well it's not a blackface frat party His base is actually going to like it once they have it explained to them. "Tucker founded a society which appreciated a man that shot liberal San Francisco mayor and uppity gay man". Everyone else that cares already thinks he's a jerk.
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Is he the Swanson frozen dinner heir, or is that the other one?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Is he the Swanson frozen dinner heir, or is that the other one? He’s the one! Single funniest fact about Tucker. It’s so perfect. A loving TV dinner heir turned into a prep school white supremacist. He is like the distilled story of the American elite.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Is he the Swanson frozen dinner heir, or is that the other one? Swanson! I'm also a sicko so I'll be interseted to see how Glenn Greenwald ignores this in favor of the greater fascism project they're both working on.
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I'm gonna register as a republican and just scream wildly racist poo poo all the way to the oval. Kneel peasants
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FizFashizzle posted:https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1384882691838025732?s=21 He's been wearing those dumb bowties since College? I thought he only wore them on TV to make him stand out.
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Monaghan posted:He's been wearing those dumb bowties since College? I thought he only wore them on TV to make him stand out. I think they come in the College Republican Dipshit starter pack with boat shoes and khaki shorts.
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the_steve posted:It's very good, but now I'm hoping they don't find some way to low-ball the actual sentence. My expectations are pretty well expressed by this Onion headline, but sometimes I start to get optimistic and feel like something's actually changing. 
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Monaghan posted:He's been wearing those dumb bowties since College? I thought he only wore them on TV to make him stand out. He finally stopped when he got his Fox show.
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zoux posted:Some wag on twitter said that the journalistic marveling at DeSantis' political acumen reminds them of all the Scott Walker hype, and I tend to agree. DeSantis is a fuckng idiot criminal who has actively killed Floridans with his belligerent dumbass COVID ignoring policies, and then fuckers go there on vacation, catch it and spread it to the states like mine. I can't believe the media is trying to play up DeSantis as some genius politician and not a loving joke and a negligent killer. Wh as t the actual gently caress is wrong with journalism in this country? 
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1384887094259032064 What bugs me about this is that it seems likely the GOP will win back the house and possibly the senate in 2022 because voters are loving dumb. They'll psych themselves out into somehow believing their GOP representatives who voted against Covid Relief and Infrastructure actually supported it all along and pull that lever for the Rs. I'm sick of this tribalism stopping us from achieving the necessary progress to put this country back on the right footing. Like the infrastructure bill will probably pass but it'll take years for the effects to be felt. Won't a GOP house/senate in 2022 or 2024 simply repeal everything?
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Kraftwerk posted:Won't a GOP house/senate in 2022 or 2024 simply repeal everything? They would need the Senate, the House, and the Presidency to do this. Possible sure, but even if they get it, as with the ACA repeal, the GOP has shown an inability to do much other than tax cuts via legislation.
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In case any of you were wondering when the next randomly targeted shooting would occur, here you are: https://twitter.com/KellyRuleTV/status/1384883999802286089 quote:Investigators said just before 5 a.m. Lian was behind the wheel of a white Toyota Carolla when fired a single gunshot at another vehicle driven by a woman on Route 22 near Cedar Crest Boulevard. The woman was not injured and did not even realize her car had been hit until she pulled into the Wawa on Route 100 and Schantz Road, Martin said. loving ban all guns.
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Yeah, they're utter power hungry ghouls, but part of that is getting re-elected and you can't do that if you start stripping away poo poo people have had for years and enjoy. Yes, repeal universal pre-K from a people that have gotten used to it and a job market that now runs on the knowledge that folks have it. I loving dare them.
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zoux posted:I dunno, the amount of explaining you'd have to do to get the average American to understand this as a scandal...well it's not a blackface frat party Eh, it's pretty easy. "It's a shout-out to a guy who assassinated a famous gay rights activist". Bing bong
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