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Heresy. The final 2 books are necessary. The unfinished book would have been nice, but we follow the rule of the knife here. Heretics and Chapterhouse aren't even the worst books. The worst book is Children, and if you don't believe me I have an adult beefswelling to sell you.
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exmachina posted:Heresy. The final 2 books are necessary. The unfinished book would have been nice, but we follow the rule of the knife here. If you consider Dune and Messiah to be one book (they basically are) then when you cut out your one bad book there are four books.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:If you consider Dune and Messiah to be one book (they basically are) then when you cut out your one bad book there are four books. I never said it was bad. I reserve that term for pablum written by failsons and sci-fi hacks I said it was the worst. It is still good. Edit: By your logic there are only 3 books. Dune, Messiah, Children; GEoD; Heretics, CH:D and the unfinished book. exmachina fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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I was going to read a different book or two between Heretics and Chapterhouse, but I'm like 93% of the way through Heretics and this poo poo is so buck wild I think I gotta just finish the series.
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Someone posted earlier that Dune's first publisher generally dealt with maintenance manuals for industrial and domestic air-conditioning units, or something. Did they also end up publishing the later weirder books too?
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Twitch posted:I was going to read a different book or two between Heretics and Chapterhouse, but I'm like 93% of the way through Heretics and this poo poo is so buck wild I think I gotta just finish the series. I honestly don't understand why people hate the last 2. In many ways they are my favorites to reread because they are not so plot-driven. Yes there is pussy magic, but the POV characters are constantly questioning themselves and their organisation. It's fine. The absolute worst scene is well-agreed upon. But throughout that scene, and preceding it, the characters are saying "woah this is some hosed up poo poo". Nothing is glorified.
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Tree Bucket posted:Someone posted earlier that Dune's first publisher generally dealt with maintenance manuals for industrial and domestic air-conditioning units, or something. Did they also end up publishing the later weirder books too? i think they just did the first book. the rest were published by Putnam which is owned by Penguin these days.
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pnumoman posted:Imagine hating on tiny super Teg That one kinda bugs me because I'm pretty sure he's like 10 when the book starts, and it seems like at least a few years pass during the course of the book, so he should be a teenager or close to it by the end. Like, yeah he'd be a little shorter than a full grown adult but he'd still be able to get around under his own power. I can't tell if the whole "riding on someone's shoulders" bit was the Sisterhood being intentionally emasculating, if there's some other symbolic reason for it, or if Frank just got tweens and toddlers mixed up.
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exmachina posted:I never said it was bad. I reserve that term for pablum written by failsons and sci-fi hacks I say Dune and Dune Messiah are one book because Frank Herbert literally wrote them as one book.
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Galewolf posted:Was there any Dune Author apologists here anyway? It was us, all along, fought invisible enemies and wasted precious water over it. I wouldn't call myself an "apologist" but, even though I acknowledge they are goofy trash, I enjoyed the Butlerian Jihad books enough to finish them. I think it's a case of, their reputation is so bad, that I was pleasantly surprised when I tried one and found it more engaging than I expected.
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Children of Dune owns what are y'all talking about.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I say Dune and Dune Messiah are one book because Frank Herbert literally wrote them as one book. God, cutting from the end of dune to 12 YEARS LATER would have been incredible
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exmachina posted:Heretics and Chapterhouse aren't even the worst books. The worst book is Children, and if you don't believe me I have an adult beefswelling to sell you. Children does have a scene where three women (Irulan, Ghanima, Alia) discuss affairs of state which to me seems far ahead of other SF or fantasy books of the time. (Yes one of them is possessed by her evil uncle but surely that happens to the best of us)
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I struggled with Children to start with but wound up quite enjoying it as it picked up. It's too long for what it is, though. About a third of the way into God Emperor and I'm really enjoying it. The book itself is less weird and difficult than I was led to believe, but it does a good job of evoking a very weird and distant society, even compared to the Paul era empire
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Colonel Cancer posted:Children of Dune owns what are y'all talking about. Fuckin A well told. I think maybe it's harder to digest since Messiah is so much more of an adventure story and Children goes back to being dense and filled with mysticism. exmachina posted:In This Thread, There Are Six Books.  There is no Herbert but Frank and Paul is his Prophet.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:That one kinda bugs me because I'm pretty sure he's like 10 when the book starts, and it seems like at least a few years pass during the course of the book, so he should be a teenager or close to it by the end. Like, yeah he'd be a little shorter than a full grown adult but he'd still be able to get around under his own power. I can't tell if the whole "riding on someone's shoulders" bit was the Sisterhood being intentionally emasculating, if there's some other symbolic reason for it, or if Frank just got tweens and toddlers mixed up. after the worm's millenia of careful selection, all reverend mothers of the bene gesserit are 9ft tall giant big tiddyed goth girlfriends 
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Bubblyblubber posted:after the worm's millenia of careful selection, all reverend mothers of the bene gesserit are 9ft tall giant big tiddyed goth girlfriends "It kills only animals, Let us say I suggest you may be human. Steady! I warn you not to try jerking away" Mommy Gesserit says as she prepares to step on me.
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Goblin Craft posted:Rabban Hood: Fremen in Tights This is sacramental water of life. Wait a minute, there's sand, there's rocks, Maker bless everything until we get fahsnickered!
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*treads rhythmically* I don't like the way you're waaaaalking...
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When I read through Children recently I realized that Alia is Latin for 'other'. When you consider that Jessica's children were Paul, intergalactic messiah, and 'the other one', it's not such a surprise that things turned out the way they did
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Looking at that a little more closely, Paul's name comes from the Latin adjective for small/humble. Plus Alia in Arabic is supreme/exalted.
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Galewolf posted:Was there any Dune Author apologists here anyway? It was us, all along, fought invisible enemies and wasted precious water over it. actually it's quite easy to make that poo poo up. After all Brian Herbert did, and he sucks!
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Bubblyblubber posted:after the worm's millenia of careful selection, all reverend mothers of the bene gesserit are 9ft tall giant big tiddyed goth girlfriends I retract my complaint and wholeheartedly endorse this as my new headcanon.
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I can't wait for this I'm going to get HBO just to watch it and I'm already writing down thread ideas. GUNE Someone make that in the right font if they're really bored please^ I'm going to reread this entire thread for ideas. I know I will have Fyadeen and Gbesserit.
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Spinz posted:Someone make that in the right font if they're really bored please^ Orthodox herbertarian e: unless you meant Edric Bold(?) 
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That green thong and its secrets
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This is great
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Kull wahad!
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We need this as a gif with a sandworm as a gangtag
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what is gyoon 
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Bubblyblubber posted:after the worm's millenia of careful selection, all reverend mothers of the bene gesserit are 9ft tall giant big tiddyed goth girlfriends I don’t get why everyone is ok with the fact her complexion is that of a corpse. Why is everyone ok with her stupid greasy corpse skin! gently caress you!
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shes a vampire bro, she's not living, she's not healthy, even so she probably isn't even a white belt at prana bindu
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Regarde Aduck posted:I don’t get why everyone is ok with the fact her complexion is that of a corpse. Why is everyone ok with her stupid greasy corpse skin! gently caress you!
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Spinz posted:I can't wait for this I'm going to get HBO just to watch it and I'm already writing down thread ideas. Yesss this sounds sick PYFremen?
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This is one of the three threads I still regularly read, so I'd absolutely get a gang tag
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The last time this thread had a "gang tag" fever, everyone pulled out except the guy who offered the gang tag idea lmao.
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Post...without symbol
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Galewolf posted:The last time this thread had a "gang tag" fever, everyone pulled out except the guy who offered the gang tag idea lmao. Was that the one with the smurf-blue scrotum on it ? Because,,
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