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peanut- posted:That said the apparently completely unthinkable outcome for Real and Barca is that they just spend less and aren't as good for a while and maybe some other team wins La Liga. Which is how it's meant to work. Ah I see that you’re new to La Liga.
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Eric Cantonese posted:You do get to a point where player wages need to take a cut (or at least their rate of growth really needs to slow down). I don't think that's all on the clubs because players and their agents have a role in that too. I agree completely. The current wages are insane, but a big part of that is because the board kept on buying players they didn't need so they could keep their job. It's not like they didn't know that their core players were expensive and aging,. And trying to replace them with even more expensive players without cutting cost was always going to be hard. Hell, even Madrid has been tame on the transfer market compared to Barca,—although I think that has to do with all the money laundering they are doing with their supposed stadium rebuild. Also, the whole point of all these stupid rules about board members all needing to have money is based on the fact that they can cover excessive debts. But the second the bill comes they immediately cry poor (the Arthur transfer) or join dumb ideas like the ESL. E: #capitalism BWV fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1384996995295764481 Adding 2 lovely teams does not a superleage make. Funny how it's a British superleage when it's really just the prem + some dumb loving sectarian bullshit.
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Tochiazuma posted:Super Porn League announcement coming soon? Came for Portuguese lessons, stayed for the Super Porn League
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Tochiazuma posted:Super Porn League announcement coming soon? Dreams can't be buy... BUT SEXY CAN.
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Ha, that Times article says Agnelli worked on a joint statement with Ceferin saying that the Super League rumors were not true just a few hours before the announcement dropped. What a shitheel.
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peanut- posted:Hasn't there always been a thing that UEFA/FIFA have wanted this in order to say that if you're one league you can be one FA and reduce the home nations' power on various governing bodies? That might just be conspiracy bollocks though. Nah, that was about the prospect of a UK wide international side - FIFA have always wanted to knock the 4 home nation votes down to 1 but these days it's really not so much of a focus for them now just because the organisation is so much bigger and that's effectively diluted it (and also it's not really been a block vote since the days of Stanley Rous). FIFA rules do mean that it's one FA, one team though so the only way to have a UK team would be for the FAs to merge. UEFA and FIFA are much more relaxed about clubs playing outside their own nations though - both Cardiff and Swansea have played in the Premiership and Wrexham and a few others play further down the pyramid. They also wouldn't have to start at the bottom of the pyramid, as lots of people have suggested (with varying degrees of seriousness) - don't forget the Premiership is officially an invitational league run by the FA, separate from the Football League (an entirely different organisation) albeit with an agreement with the EFL that the FA will invite 3 clubs up from the Championship and the EFL will accept 3 clubs from the EPL. The point is there's nothing *legally* stopping the FA inviting Rangers, Celtic, or even the Seattle Sounders, to join the Premiership but there's also nothing legally stopping the EFL not accepting relegated clubs (this power has always been a major bargaining chip for the EFL in negotiating the solidarity payments from the FA, to the extreme discomfort of West Ham fans in 92 when it was plausible we'd have had to drop all the way to the Conference). This, incidentally, is why the Prem is still 20 clubs even though the plan has always been to drop to 18 - the EFL clubs have always voted down proposals to increase relegation from the bottom of the EFL which is also why L1 and L2 are still 24 teams. The point is without EFL cooperation (and they'll *definitely* want a word about the increased TV revenues an EPL+friends would bring in) the Premiership can't shrink to 18 or even stay at 20 clubs with 2 extras. However there's word that BOZZA LEGERND is smiling upon the idea (presumably because of an extremely hazy idea this will somehow dampen Scottish nationalism) so it's not impossible some sort of agreement might be reached. Personally I don't think it will happen because I think (or at least hope) that the Old Firm realise that even with all the extra money sloshing around south of the border they're still going to be at best medium-sized fish in a much bigger pond.
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If they wanted to increase the Premiership to 22 teams and literally just stick Rangers and Celtic into the PL that way I reckon they would have to do away with the League Cup altogether to make room for the additional fixtures. Or make the the European tournaments have a less insane amount of games. Or make International games midweek fixtures or something.
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Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:Let’s disband Barca and spread their assets amongst other clubs Who else would take a bunch of overpaid players in their 30's?
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Pook Good Mook posted:Who else would take a bunch of overpaid players in their 30's? MLS exists
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bagsy martin braithwaite not for united, I just need my conservatory re-doing
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trem_two posted:Ha, that Times article says Agnelli worked on a joint statement with Ceferin saying that the Super League rumors were not true just a few hours before the announcement dropped. lmao
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I guess the PL (or SuPL) money would be big enough to make up for the lack of European football for the Old Firm? Because there's no chance of them qualifying in a combined league, no matter how deluded their fans are.
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greazeball posted:lmao Also explains everyone else calling Agnelli a deceptive, lying poo poo
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greazeball posted:I guess the PL (or SuPL) money would be big enough to make up for the lack of European football for the Old Firm? Because there's no chance of them qualifying in a combined league, no matter how deluded their fans are. How much European money do you actually get from getting spanked out of the preliminary rounds by a bunch of postmen from Lichtenstein anyway?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:How much European money do you actually get from getting spanked out of the preliminary rounds by a bunch of postmen from Lichtenstein anyway? Think that season we made about €400k. Was not great.
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Sandwolf posted:Also explains everyone else calling Agnelli a deceptive, lying poo poo gonna be hard to argue at this point I think big lol at PSG making themselves possibly the most influential club in Europe by doing nothing at all through this whole thing
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Sandwolf posted:Also explains everyone else calling Agnelli a deceptive, lying poo poo 
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Tsaedje posted:What's in it for the Prem teams? 4 of them are going to be displaced and the mid table have another two relatively well funded teams to compete with. 4 fewer fixtures but two extremely long away days for most. Plus the joy of sectarianism. my American rear end is cackling at that being "far". I know the sense of scale is definitely thrown off, but still. That said, I'm all-in on chaos at this point, fuckin' have at it.
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the escape goat posted:my American rear end is cackling at that being "far". I know the sense of scale is definitely thrown off, but still. Time slows down as you approach the speed of shite
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Team all fly to games anyway, Glasgow isn't a meaningful distance further than Newcastle once they're already in the air.
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Eric Cantonese posted:You do get to a point where player wages need to take a cut (or at least their rate of growth really needs to slow down). I don't think that's all on the clubs because players and their agents have a role in that too. The club's don't have to spend themselves into the ground, they do it because they want to - do one should be saying it's the players fault if they take the money when offered. The players are also better off if major names don't go bankrupt.
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Bundy posted:Time slows down as you approach the speed of shite My team's closest rival is 250km away, just get busses and put a keg on each. it fuckin' owns. (but yes, MLS is trash and so is America, hence all the drinking) Was so weird for me when I went to a match at Old Trafford and had to chug my beer on the concourse because I wasn't allowed to drink it in sight of the pitch. No wonder people there pregame so hard.
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sassassin posted:Team all fly to games anyway, Glasgow isn't a meaningful distance further than Newcastle once they're already in the air. It’s also closer than Southampton to seven clubs, geography won’t be an issue with it
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Burning Rain posted:An interview with an (anti-establishment) economist about this farce: https://nograssintheclouds.substack.com/p/how-the-spectacular-comical-failure This paragraph was great: quote:Another way to think of this is, say there's a group of world-class chefs who got together one night and they all got high and they said, "Let's reinvent food". So, they got un-high, then they started to do it, and they only talk to themselves. And the guy from El Bulli made ice cream out of snails and Gordon Ramsey made curse words into custard. And you did all this and you never once gave any of this to a normal person to taste it. And then you opened up the most expensive restaurant in the world and said, "Come in". And then you're surprised when people say, "I'm not eating that poo poo. What's that?" 
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Grimson posted:best break out your newspeak dictionaries for this one Thank you Barcelona for seeking new formulas for solidarity with the football family as a whole, which as we all know, is one of FC Barcelona's most inalienable principles, "New formulas for solidarity" Xavi mutters while standing over Cruyffs grave. I, for one, am back to supporting the Super League (but only if it has 5 teams who play against each other every weekday for 9 months a year)
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blue footed boobie posted:Ah I see that you’re new to La Liga. to be fair, there's a rule that allows no-one to win la liga sometimes like in 2004 and 2014
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"improving the product" and "consolidating fanbases" lol what pieces of poo poo
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not that he's any better but Bartomeu must be having a good lol that he's not here to take the heat for all of this
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Good lad https://twitter.com/IlkayGuendogan/status/1385293404100235272
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The problem with distance isn't the team's travel, it's the away fans.
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Tsaedje posted:The problem with distance isn't the team's travel, it's the away fans. Dont Barcelona already charge like £120 for away fans lmao
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Burning Rain posted:An interview with an (anti-establishment) economist about this farce: https://nograssintheclouds.substack.com/p/how-the-spectacular-comical-failure Interesting comment in the comments there: The German system is lauded here, but everybody seems to be forgetting that the Bundesliga is basically the most uncompetitive league there is, with Bayern just winning everything for a decade now. I mean yeah, it's one of the most financially stable leagues there is, but it's also boring as poo poo and absolutely not the example you want if you're looking for an interesting competition.
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