European Super League Super Thread

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TheRat: Aug 30, 2006

I prefer steakholders

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:07

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# ? May 28, 2024 08:55

FullLeatherJacket: Dec 30, 2004; Chiunque pu� essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

Chas McGill posted:

Lmao that Barca and Real are basically the same.

m�s que un club

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:09

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

Grimson posted:

best break out your newspeak dictionaries for this one

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1385277517347672065?s=20

the new Super League has been decided.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:14

BUG JUG: Feb 17, 2005

Luigi Thirty posted:

the new Super League has been decided.

no get ancelotti off the bench noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:17

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

bees everywhere posted:

This paragraph was great:

Pretty sure that was a major arc in Food Wars

uXs posted:

Interesting comment in the comments there:

The German system is lauded here, but everybody seems to be forgetting that the Bundesliga is basically the most uncompetitive league there is, with Bayern just winning everything for a decade now.

I mean yeah, it's one of the most financially stable leagues there is, but it's also boring as poo poo and absolutely not the example you want if you're looking for an interesting competition.

Bayern always won a bunch in the good old days, but clubs like Bremen and Stuttgart would also win every now and then. Given how the sport has changed wrt money in the last decade, it's near impossible to go back

poo poo, look at the Dortmund teams from the start of the decade. Bayern couldn't beat em, so Bayern bought all their best players

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:18

jeebus bob: Nov 4, 2004; Festina lente

M�s que un �Hala!

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:19

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

I'm way late on the "Old Firm to the Premier League" thing, but when I first saw it in the wee hours of the morning here in the US I think the actual original source on that was The Sun so I refuse to believe it's anything other than a giant load of poo poo.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:22

keep punching joe: Jan 22, 2006; Die Satan!

Rangers/Celtic should simply enter colt teams in the bottom of the English pyramid and earn their EPL places it through promotion.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:27

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Crazy Ted posted:

I'm way late on the "Old Firm to the Premier League" thing, but when I first saw it in the wee hours of the morning here in the US I think the actual original source on that was The Sun so I refuse to believe it's anything other than a giant load of poo poo.

It�s been talked about for years, hence the;

Cut Out and Keep Guide to Old Firm Joining the EPL posted:

STEP 1: Tabloid publish story based on a vague quote from a vague source.

STEP 2: Every other tabloid runs the story, linking back to the original tabloid.

STEP 3: Generic Cockney Pundit makes ill-informed statement on Generic Sports FM about Celtic and Rangers in order to generate controversy.

STEP 4: Tabloids publish articles based on Generic Cockney Pundit�s comments.

STEP 5: More informed pundit responds to Generic Cockney Pundit on Generic Sports FM.

STEP 6: Tabloids publish articles based on more informed pundit�s response.

STEP 7: Fans share and argue underneath Generic Sport FM video on Twitter, driving up their engagement figures and vindicating their decision to pursue a controversy-first approach.

STEP 8: Tabloids publish articles based on fan arguments underneath Generic Sport FM video.

STEP 9: Tabloid that published original story runs �Celtic and Rangers British Super League plans shelved� article.

STEP 10: Repeat cycle in four months.

From old firm facts. https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/04/22/how-episode-26-of-celtic-and-rangers-being-linked-with-a-move-to-england-will-play-out/

quote:

Some might say it�s interesting timing for journalists to be writing about another Super League, given how many people have been searching for �Super League� on Google this week.

Etc.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:34

the popes toes: Oct 10, 2004

the escape goat posted:

Was so weird for me when I went to a match at Old Trafford and had to chug my beer on the concourse because I wasn't allowed to drink it in sight of the pitch. No wonder people there pregame so hard.

From the train stop to an Eintracht match in Frankfurt, the crowd follows an uneven trail through a dark forest, a trail that is only illuminated by poorly lit temporary beer kiosks. There, you chug and move down the dark forest trail until you come to another kiosk, and chug again and so on, until you yourself are quite lit, unlike the dark forest from which you eventually emerge.

The unreality of the experience ends as soon as you enter the grounds, unless of course, Frankfurt wins.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 20:50

FullLeatherJacket: Dec 30, 2004; Chiunque pu� essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

the popes toes posted:

From the train stop to an Eintracht match in Frankfurt, the crowd follows an uneven trail through a dark forest, a trail that is only illuminated by poorly lit temporary beer kiosks. There, you chug and move down the dark forest trail until you come to another kiosk, and chug again and so on, until you yourself are quite lit, unlike the dark forest from which you eventually emerge.

The unreality of the experience ends as soon as you enter the grounds, unless of course, Frankfurt wins.

also if you go to the Doctor Flotte there's a barman named Jogi who looks like he does a LOT of acid and will do magic tricks for you

and there's a giant greenhouse full of cactuses

that's my guide to Frankfurt

# ? Apr 22, 2021 21:19

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Total Meatlove posted:

It�s been talked about for years, hence the;

From old firm facts. https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/04/22/how-episode-26-of-celtic-and-rangers-being-linked-with-a-move-to-england-will-play-out/

Etc.

I've always been under the impression that Celtic and Rangers in the Premier League is something Celtic and Rangers want and basically nobody else.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 21:38

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Total Meatlove posted:

It�s also closer than Southampton to seven clubs, geography won�t be an issue with it

I mean the only real problem is the closest EPL ground to Glasgow (Newcastle) is about the same distance as the furthest-away SPL ground (Ross County) but that's just an expense and logistics issue, as has been pointed out they'll be flying everywhere apart from *maybe* Newcastle anyway so the distance doesn't really matter. Bit of a pig for the fans though - I really wouldn't fancy doing Glasgow to London six times a season, let alone Southampton or Brighton.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 21:43

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

Crazy Ted posted:

I've always been under the impression that Celtic and Rangers in the Premier League is something Celtic and Rangers want and basically nobody else.

More the money than the league, and because pub bores need arguments. Supporters of the other clubs are more fans of the idea, though in the great tradition everyone backs scottish football against �tinpot farmer wouldn�t beat Bournemouth� shite.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 21:43

African AIDS cum: Feb 29, 2012; Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Add Rangers but not lovely Celtic it would be super lol

# ? Apr 22, 2021 21:48

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Crazy Ted posted:

I've always been under the impression that Celtic and Rangers in the Premier League is something Celtic and Rangers want and basically nobody else.

I think in the abstract the EPL (and Sky etc) would like the extra TV revenue from two Old Firm matches a season plus at least another dozen or so "big" matches to stick in Super Sunday, but yeah the individual clubs have got no particular incentive to go for it. Half the clubs would see them as even more competition for the 4th Place Trophy, and the other half would see their chances of relegation go up even further.

It is quite a fun thing (in a pub bore kind of way) to think about though - for all their claims to Big Club status, on almost every measure they're somewhere in the chasing pack with Arsenal and Everton. Rangers fans like to make a lot of them having more Official Supporters Clubs overseas than any other nation but that just means there's a lot of Scots living abroad - no kids in Thailand or Rwanda are buying Rangers shirts and trying out the latest Ryan Jack moves on the playground. Celtic do sell out almost every home game... but so do West Ham, in a bigger stadium and at higher ticket prices.

Obviously the massive influx of Sky money - and the better marketing opportunities afforded by being in the EPL - would probably mean they'd settle into challenging-for-top-4 in a couple of seasons, but they'll never have the global reach or Liverpool or Man U or the bottomless owner's pockets of Chelsea and Man City so they'd probably settle into Spurs-style delusions of grandeur.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 22:04

Karl Sharks: Feb 20, 2008; The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

vyelkin posted:

Javier Tebas, the head of La Liga, has been having his say.

https://twitter.com/dermotmcorrigan/status/1385222571147333636

tangentially related and not trying to american capitalism it up much, but i think i know where the money is really coming from

https://twitter.com/alex_sammon/status/1385244101042442241

# ? Apr 22, 2021 22:08

Butterfly Valley: Apr 19, 2007; I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

the popes toes posted:

From the train stop to an Eintracht match in Frankfurt, the crowd follows an uneven trail through a dark forest, a trail that is only illuminated by poorly lit temporary beer kiosks. There, you chug and move down the dark forest trail until you come to another kiosk, and chug again and so on, until you yourself are quite lit, unlike the dark forest from which you eventually emerge.

The unreality of the experience ends as soon as you enter the grounds, unless of course, Frankfurt wins.

This sounded incredibly cool and atmospheric but then I looked up the journey on google maps and it's just a 12 minute walk apparently?

# ? Apr 22, 2021 22:11

bees everywhere: Nov 19, 2002

Butterfly Valley posted:

This sounded incredibly cool and atmospheric but then I looked up the journey on google maps and it's just a 12 minute walk apparently?

Google maps is cool and all but the technology hasn't gotten there just yet to accurately calculate the speed of the besoffen Deutscher in their natural habitat.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 22:23

greazeball: Feb 4, 2003

plastic paddies would go nuts for celtic merch, imagine an army of ginger loudmouths wearing celtic tops and celtics caps

# ? Apr 22, 2021 22:41

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

greazeball posted:

plastic paddies would go nuts for celtic merch, imagine an army of ginger loudmouths wearing celtic tops and celtics caps

Let Celtic and Rangers in but the trade-off is that Celtic has to split their home games between Dublin and Boston.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 22:50

NinpoEspiritoSanto: Oct 22, 2013

Lol at suggesting the old firm would get in the top 4

Also can't see Celtic or the fans going for an English league

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:07

FullLeatherJacket: Dec 30, 2004; Chiunque pu� essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

tbh i've never met an Irish Celtic fan, ever

plenty of Aston Villa for some reason and Glendenning supports Sunderland as part of his commitment to the bit, but everyone else has better things to do

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:08

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

FullLeatherJacket posted:

tbh i've never met an Irish Celtic fan, ever

plenty of Aston Villa for some reason and Glendenning supports Sunderland as part of his commitment to the bit, but everyone else has better things to do

have you only met like 2 irish people

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:10

FullLeatherJacket: Dec 30, 2004; Chiunque pu� essere Luther Blissett, semplicemente adottando il nome Luther Blissett

jesus WEP posted:

have you only met like 2 irish people

yes

i only need my hedges trimming once every few weeks

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:12

Strawman: Feb 9, 2008; Tortuga means turtle, and that's me. I take my time but I always win.

greazeball posted:

I guess the PL (or SuPL) money would be big enough to make up for the lack of European football for the Old Firm? Because there's no chance of them qualifying in a combined league, no matter how deluded their fans are.

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# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:28

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Strawman posted:

Jeezus

I knew that SPL money was bad but I didn't know it was that bad

I'm pretty sure the average Major League Soccer team brings in more TV money than that and their national TV deal still isn't even nine figures.

Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 22, 2021

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:34

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Crazy Ted posted:

Jeezus

I knew that SPL money was bad but I didn't know it was that bad

Don't the Old Firm get to have their own special snowflake TV deal which sucks all the money out of the rest of the league?

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:38

Literally Lewis Hamilton: Feb 22, 2005

Rangers and Celtic would be relegated the first year they were in the PL/whatever super league

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:44

Chas McGill: Oct 29, 2010; loves Fat Philippe

Strawman posted:

When Aberdeen played Burnley in the Europa league a few years ago, iirc one of their defenders was worth more than our whole team.

# ? Apr 22, 2021 23:56

Karl Sharks: Feb 20, 2008; The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Rangers and Celtic would be relegated the first year they were in the PL/whatever super league

should def let them in then to watch their hopes immediately get demolished

# ? Apr 23, 2021 00:19

African AIDS cum: Feb 29, 2012; Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Literally Lewis Hamilton posted:

Rangers and Celtic would be relegated the first year they were in the PL/whatever super league

Also in the championship

# ? Apr 23, 2021 01:26

Bogan Krkic: Oct 31, 2010; Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Seeing all the superleague teams in the prem get docked points and battling it out with Celtic and Rangers for relegation would be one of the best things to happen in football

# ? Apr 23, 2021 13:42

trem_two: Oct 22, 2002; it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1385578991046770690

# ? Apr 23, 2021 14:48

Total Meatlove: Jan 28, 2007; Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Don't the Old Firm get to have their own special snowflake TV deal which sucks all the money out of the rest of the league?

No. Although Rangers manage the rights to the SPFL broadcast in India

# ? Apr 23, 2021 15:13

TotalHell: Feb 22, 2005; _{Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.}

trem_two posted:

https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1385578991046770690

Rich oligarchs: well known for just wanting to be liked, and not for doing whatever they think will be in their personal financial interest.

# ? Apr 23, 2021 16:20

Karl Sharks: Feb 20, 2008; The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

https://archive.ph/LKvCQ

quote:

In a corporate statement rare for its contrition and self-criticism, JPMorgan admitted it had been a mistake to finance the proposal without considering its effects on others.
�We clearly misjudged how this deal would be viewed by the wider football community and how it might impact them in the future,� a company spokesman said. �We will learn from this.�

lol why even bother tbh

# ? Apr 23, 2021 16:33

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

"We will learn from this [how to do it more profitably next time]"

# ? Apr 23, 2021 16:48

the popes toes: Oct 10, 2004

There's a good documentary in this ESL debacle waiting to be made. Hell, a movie. G Neville can play himself.

# ? Apr 23, 2021 17:23

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# ? May 28, 2024 08:55

KYOON GRIFFEY JR: Apr 12, 2010; Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

TotalHell posted:

Rich oligarchs: well known for just wanting to be liked, and not for doing whatever they think will be in their personal financial interest.

if you're already rich and your aim is just making more money, you don't go in to sports

# ? Apr 23, 2021 17:34

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