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If I’m gonna pick up Atelier Ryza on sale should I get it on switch or PS4
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Apr 3, 2021 20:42
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It shouldn't have any particular problems on either, but PS4 loads faster and so on if you have no personal preferences about portability or controllers or whatever.
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Apr 3, 2021 20:46
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Waci posted:It shouldn't have any particular problems on either, but PS4 loads faster and so on if you have no personal preferences about portability or controllers or whatever. I was thinking Switch just because sometimes it’s nice to play games in bed so I was just curious if it had any major issues that made the Switch version particularly bad. Thanks!
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Apr 3, 2021 21:07
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Why the delistings
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Apr 3, 2021 21:09
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The enhanced versions are coming out soon
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Apr 3, 2021 21:10
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The Switch version is uglier than PC (of course), but it plays fine.
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Apr 3, 2021 23:39
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ok so I thought I beat Ayesha but instead I had like another 12 hours worth of post game on my plate. Was not expecting that! Well, if nothing else I can say with absolute certainty it's possible to comfortably 100% the game within the 3 year time limit, even with no guide or even prior knowledge of the series.
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Apr 6, 2021 23:19
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The main thing is that a lot of the older Ateliers have fairly obscure event requirements at times so it can be hard to even know what to do sometimes
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Apr 6, 2021 23:24
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i hope lydie and suelle is a fun game i'm slowly getting my way there...I just want my gun atelier
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Apr 7, 2021 03:58
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it's the funniest game in the series, at the least. and has one of the best crafting systems
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Apr 7, 2021 04:49
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Lulua is funnier for the first half until they ran out of money, imo
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Apr 7, 2021 04:52
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Lydie and Suelle and fun and funny and holy hell the opening duet is wonderful and amazing and easily one of the best things Gust has ever composed. Also apparently I need to find cashmonies for Mysterious ateliers DX in like two weeks and uggggggggggh is there any reason to if I already have the games and all the important DLC?
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Apr 7, 2021 16:24
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Rotoru posted:Lydie and Suelle and fun and funny and holy hell the opening duet is wonderful and amazing and easily one of the best things Gust has ever composed. We don't know the full change list but probably not.
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Apr 7, 2021 19:11
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Honestly I thought S&L has one of the weaker opening songs
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Apr 8, 2021 03:37
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Rotoru posted:Lydie and Suelle and fun and funny and holy hell the opening duet is wonderful and amazing and easily one of the best things Gust has ever composed. Sophie is adding a new story about catching up to her grandmother (along with a new outfit) Firis is getting new exploration items. The Lydie & Suelle Season Pass is the same price as the entire mysterious collection on preorder discount. Also they work Nelke into the story E: Lydie & Suelle had a thing where they made the songs able to be sung together or individually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eFekdWkq3Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3K6Zv3Kv0U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ8BDhPjerE Dehry fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 10, 2021 |
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Apr 10, 2021 07:32
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it hit me within like 20 minutes of starting L&S that the title screen opening is literally the twins' themes running side by side and i've always appreciated that
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Apr 11, 2021 01:12
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Dehry posted:The Lydie & Suelle Season Pass is the same price as the entire mysterious collection on preorder discount. Also they work Nelke into the story There's a preorder discount? Steam only has the games listed as "releases in 10 days" with no way to buy them yet.
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Apr 11, 2021 23:20
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I believe it’s on switch and maybe ps4/5
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Apr 11, 2021 23:35
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PS4 and Switch preorders have a discount. Probably a weeklong discount on Steam, though Greenmangaming will probably get a good deal like with others.
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Apr 12, 2021 04:23
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So I kind have this streak-y thing going with Atelier games where I'll get really into them for a while, burn myself out, and then repeat. Same seems to be happening with Ryza right now, I powered through all of Ryza 1, kinda opting for a less bomb focused playstyle and going in more on making my equipment as laughable as possible and just whacking stuff to death which seemed to play out fine. I was kinda spurred into it with the (mostly self inflicted) conviction that I'd want to save CC for dire situations. For a bit, Ryza 2 looked like it was gonna shake me out of that with the in-battle generation of CC and taking away the counter-desperation Orders, but I kinda just got the hotswap assist mechanic, and holy poo poo, it feels like once I get my first assist bar full, I can just do a combo, immediately swap and start a new one, and then swap back in a seemingly neverending skill chain. I just got Serri and she seems a lot less interesting, both character and mechanics wise, than Lila which kinda blows, but hey. Either way, if I wanted to go whole hog on combo skill chaining stuff, is there any new Traits I should keep an eye out for to facilitate that, or is it just kinda the same as Ryza 1, and load up on Skill Charges and whatnot?
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Apr 12, 2021 11:13
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Alright, now that I've gotten a chance to play the Mysterious DX games and compare them side by side with the PS4/PC originals, I can safely say these are Switch ports. The exploration areas were reworked to perform better on Switch, removing grass textures and replacing trees. I slept until the same time in both games and this is the spot I was spawned in. Original  DX (RX 480/i7 7700k 16gb ram) effectively the same on PS4 when it unlocked . 
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Apr 22, 2021 07:16
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There are some REALLY GOOD Atelier game deals on Steam r/n just an example
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Apr 23, 2021 00:42
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I'm nearing the end of Escha & Logy. I can see why it's so beloved, though I'm not nearly as charmed by it as I was Ayesha I feel like too many of the characters are just not very fun to be around. Someone like Keithgriff or Juris works well when they're contrasted against the likes of Ernie and Regina and Nanaca and of course Ayesha herself. But here I don't care for much of anyone beyond the returning characters, Escha, and Awin But everything else is definitely superior, especially the gameplay elements, and particularly crafting itself. The whole elemental skill system is SO much fun and I feel like I have tremendous control over what I'm making
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Apr 23, 2021 02:18
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You'll like the alchemy systems in most of the remaining games, I think. Shallie was a bit of a whiff and Ryza does its own thing but Sophie through Lulua bear a lot of similarity to E&L. Lulua in particular
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Apr 23, 2021 02:22
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shallie's crafting is janky as hell and i needed a lot of video tutorials plus sylphid's guide just to get the hang of it combat is super fun though
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Apr 23, 2021 03:23
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Really? I found it pretty intuitive. That was the one with the opposing element values for upgrade paths, correct?
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Apr 23, 2021 04:29
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numerrik posted:Really? I found it pretty intuitive. That was the one with the opposing element values for upgrade paths, correct? That's Lulua maybe it's Shallie too? I don't remember Shallie crafting other than not liking it
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Apr 23, 2021 05:41
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shallie crafting had the weird chain system and i don't recall opposing elements coming into play at all the alchemy system was also balanced around having a max level of 100 instead of 50, and a lot of crafting skills that would have made it more bearable were locked into really, really lategame after a miserable grindfest
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Apr 23, 2021 13:21
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So how bad are the steam ports of the games compared to the switch versions?
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Apr 23, 2021 13:59
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Haven't seen any complaints about technical issues on PC so far (and the original PC release had a lot of those, especially Firis), but it seems like the DX version is based on the Switch build, so it actually looks worse than the original PC release old:  new:  old top, new bottom:  PS3, old PC version, PS5 DX: 
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Apr 23, 2021 14:28
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Any of these games have QOL stuff like speed ups and what not? I want to check out the series but have trouble playing RPGs in their normal way.
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Apr 23, 2021 14:42
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What about the Ayesha/Eschalogy/Shallie ports on pc?
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Apr 23, 2021 14:59
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finally dusk on sale yes
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Apr 23, 2021 16:29
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I had the sound off because I was doing graphical comparisons and didn't want the soundtrack playing twice, but now realize at least in Firis DX the audio doesn't loop right.
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Apr 23, 2021 18:59
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It kind of fell off my radar for a while but now that it's on deep discount, how is Nelke? Atelier games are pretty much all giant crossovers anyway, so I could get behind the biggest crossover of them all.
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Apr 23, 2021 21:50
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Finally nabbed Firis on Seitch. Super cute so far. Seeing the graphics comparisons is pretty crazy though! That's some serious reverse quality which I wouldn't have expected from an improved version. Seems like graphics would get better. 
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Apr 23, 2021 21:55
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Bussamove posted:It kind of fell off my radar for a while but now that it's on deep discount, how is Nelke? Atelier games are pretty much all giant crossovers anyway, so I could get behind the biggest crossover of them all. Nelke is a complete spinoff. Gameplay completely unlike the mainline series. The alchemist interactions are cute but the gameplay is pretty middling to bad.
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Apr 23, 2021 22:00
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cheetah7071 posted:Nelke is a complete spinoff. Gameplay completely unlike the mainline series. That's a shame. Atelier is carried a lot on its cute interactions but the gameplay still needs to be there. Might just get the Mysterious trilogy instead. I have L&S but never really played the other two because they got a fairly bad reception when they first came out. Or I'll continue my trend of owning the Dusk trilogy on every platform possible.
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Apr 23, 2021 22:08
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Thank you for the OP for this. Saw these on sale and never played one before. Still deciding where to jump in on these series. That's a hefty price point to go in blind on one. So.....many......games......
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Apr 23, 2021 22:24
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Givin posted:Thank you for the OP for this. Saw these on sale and never played one before. Still deciding where to jump in on these series. That's a hefty price point to go in blind on one. I've only played six of them (Marie, Elie, Anne, Rorona, Totori, and Meruru), and only finished four of those, but of those I think Meruru gets my top spot; it's a bit more polished than Rorona and I found the city-building elements to be great fun. And it's a bit less pricey than the more recent ones. It's the third one in the Arland trilogy, but I don't think you need to have finished the first two to enjoy it (and in fact Totori is one of the ones I DNFed). Tamba posted:Haven't seen any complaints about technical issues on PC so far (and the original PC release had a lot of those, especially Firis), but it seems like the DX version is based on the Switch build, so it actually looks worse than the original PC release Wow, that is...rough. If I were feeling cynical I might wonder if they half-assedly ported the Switch version and pulled the originals to have an excuse to reset the price. Do the Dusk games have similar issues? After Meruru last year (which was an absolute blast, but also riddled with technical issues on PC) and now this, I wonder if my best option is to dig up my PS3 and just play the PS3 builds... ToxicFrog fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Apr 23, 2021 |
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