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Cpt_Obvious posted:Weren't there a lot of Nazi collaboration in the Polish government? Wasn't there a reason some of the more infamous camps like Warsaw were located there? Actually I think you'll find that it's illegal to allege that Poland had a hand in the holocaust
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there were polish persons who collabratored but the polish government did not and was completely abolished by the germans anyway who declared poles to be stateless and then staffed the occupation government exclusively with krauts
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Raskolnikov38 posted:there were polish persons who collabratored but the polish government did not and was completely abolished by the germans anyway who declared poles to be stateless and then staffed the occupation government exclusively with krauts that's generally how sucking up to the oppressor always ends
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Lansdowne posted:some big brain stuff on display after dems in california again pull their state single payer bill the gavin newsom 2036 strategy to achieve m4a is still on track
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If climate change is a large enough threat to all of humanity at some point the international community is going to have to treat nations who flout environmental norms the same way as nations who flout norms on weapons of mass destruction. I don't see any avoiding it if you wish for the world to take man made climate change as the greatest threat facing humanity. Isaac Asimov points out this issue way back 40 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe4im2urTw
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Apr 24, 2021 17:27
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Boy that sure does improve material conditions for....uh....
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literally MLK's description of the white moderate "who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a more convenient season"
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The Pussy Boss posted:I still wonder if AOC made a deal where, if she shills for Biden, then she gets to introduce the GND bill, maybe bring M4A up for a symbolic vote, stuff like that. Like is this her strategy for working within the system? That would be really stupid, but the alternative is that she's just completely sold out. lol she just sold out
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol she just sold out She was a Kennedy intern with some other spook associations via academia, iirc.
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tactlessbastard posted:Boy that sure does improve material conditions for....uh.... Acknowledging that the genocide happened, and that it was genocide, is a step forward and i don't know if i can complain about it, specifically That said, it's the kind of empty populism liberals love - it's not seriously upsetting anybody we're not already at odds with, so it ultimately costs nothing. It satisfies a very small portion of the broader disenfranchised Democratic base while giving liberals something to point at whenever somebody challenges their candidate's progressive credentials. "He's the most progressive president ever! He was the first to endorse gay marriage* and the first to acknowlede the armenian genocide*!" And like, yeah, technically true? But what is he loving doing for Americans, today? What has sold me on controlled opposition is that the few examples of real liberal successes - things that made people's lives better, stimulated the economy, etc - never stick around. Democrats don't fight and die (figuratively speaking) on the floor of the senate to preserve helpful programs. Remember Cash 4 Clunkers? Pure liberalism. Program worked, helped a ton of people. That first time home buyer program? Same thing. Bold Obama Agendas. We even got real credit card reform! And none of those programs stuck around. They didn't get extended or renewed, they didn't get made permanent, even the credit card reform bill has been stripped down and we're back to total loving anarchy with fees and rate increases If a program could ever sell Americans on how good socialism could be, it is eliminated. If a program is completely unable to function as intended, it never, ever goes away. They want to fail. They are part of the system of literal loving grifters who are looting the country piece by piece while telling us things will get better as long as we vote for them I understand the spite voters now. After a while you just get loving tired of being lied to. You're playing a shell game every four years and the one you pick is empty every time, you never get the prize, they just take your money and tell you it'll get better, it'll get better, as soon as we achieve some perfect unified supermajority, we'll finally do it! We just can't get anything done! Meanwhile, they're rubberstamping bills that make lives easier for businesses. You really only have two choices: Walk away from the table or punch that motherfucker in the face. Mirthless has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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Mirthless posted:Remember Cash 4 Clunkers? Pure liberalism. Program worked, helped a ton of people.
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recognizing the armenian genocide doesn't do poo poo for armenians abroad because the united states is still arming and funding the guys ethnically cleansing nagorno-karabakh right now, and armenians at home sure as poo poo aren't stupid enough to not understand this its a token gesture that means nothing to nobody, but every soyfacing dullard is eating it up. disgusting.
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Tubgoat posted:Boy, did it! I would not classify the Amerikkkan automotive industry as "people," though. It completely and utterly hosed people. Yeah I don't really get this Some people definitely got in over their head on loans and some car trades were ill advised, but I knew a ton of people personally who were able to buy their first new car or at least trade up to a better used car at a time when nobody had any money at all, it was a legitimately helpful program and it saved the auto industry, debatably. I don't agree with every aspect of the program, but if Liberals wanted to sell people on their ideas, they would have fought to keep that program intact. Liberals don't fight to protect their wins, they fight to recover their losses. It's maddening. The American Auto Industry employs a lot of black people and is pretty much the last bastion of union workers left. I'm glad you're mad about capital but you're blackpilling a little hard, bud.
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Mirthless posted:Acknowledging that the genocide happened, and that it was genocide, is a step forward and i don't know if i can complain about it, specifically gently caress yeah comrade
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Mirthless posted:Yeah I don't really get this I am loving voidpilled.
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I don’t think America should be in the business of naming genocides because it will only do it when it’s good for business. It is actively enabling ongoing genocides and it is committing them itself. This just looks like a weak move by a dying empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Charge_Genocide
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is Mirthless arguing with himself here what is happening
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Yeah, it might of been good for certain individuals but it was a loving failure. It didn't reach it's economic or environmental goals because it took lots of perfectly usable cars of the street and replaced them with new cars.
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A nonzero number of people can be helped by liberal legislation, tbh, that just shouldn't serve as any sort of proof of the system working because those programs never exist primarily to help individuals over corporations or they wouldn't be liberalism
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Make the government pay for garbage choices and allow private enterprise to charge more for the remainder. Obamacare or Cash for Clunkers? lol
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Tubgoat posted:Cash for Clunkers did not take actual clunkers, that wouldn't drive, but instead removed perfectly viable used vehicles from the market at a time when people could least afford to buy new, especially because the architects of the program were allowing banks to steal peoples' homes with no recourse. I mean, part of the point of the program was removing cars from the road that didn't meet efficiency standards and keeping them from being driven anymore. In a better, more complete system they would have turned it into a biannual or quarterannual credit and pressed the auto industry to create refurbish programs to bring old vehicles up to modern standards. But liberals compromise away all the components of their programs that would make them loving work, every single time. In America, we generally have a practical need for car ownership, and a cultural attachment to our vehicles. But many of them should not be on the road anymore and if our government was providing for our needs, and acknowledging automotive access as such, they would have kept and expanded the program. But Liberals, or at least the ones running the government, don't really seem to want these programs to succeed. I have yet to see a liberal agenda put forth in my lifetime that was not built to fail and I loving hate it. Mirthless has issued a correction as of 18:15 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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Unoriginal Name posted:is Mirthless arguing with himself here Not arguing with anybody! We're having a discussion, friend. 
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I'm a cesar romero socialist. not on the meme for some reason? very sus.
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Mirthless posted:Not arguing with anybody! We're having a discussion, friend. OK but maybe stop extolling the virtues of government handouts to private enterprise while trying to critique liberal ideas, lol
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ah yes the car understander would like to let us know that manufacturing and distributing new cars is more efficient than just keeping your older low mpg car
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Unoriginal Name posted:OK but maybe stop extolling the virtues of government handouts to private enterprise while trying to critique liberal ideas, lol witchy posted:ah yes the car understander would like to let us know that manufacturing and distributing new cars is more efficient than just keeping your older low mpg car the people who don't read posts before hitting reply have logged on y'all gotta stop doing this edit: get another joke vvvvvv Mirthless has issued a correction as of 18:26 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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Judakel posted:gonna be funny if biden breaks up nato
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Mirthless posted:I have yet to see a liberal agenda put forth in my lifetime that was not built to fail and I loving hate it. so you’re saying you wish the liberals succeeded lol
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Mirthless posted:the people who don't read posts before hitting reply have logged on Mirthless posted:I mean, part of the point of the program was removing cars from the road that didn't meet efficiency standards and keeping them from being driven anymore. In a better, more complete system they would have turned it into a biannual or quarterannual credit and pressed the auto industry to create refurbish programs to bring old vehicles up to modern standards. if anything im doing you a favor by glossing over your harebrained scheme to refurbish every old car nationally on a rolling basis
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Judakel posted:gonna be funny if biden breaks up nato is he doing russia's bidding??, i gasp after my fourth mimosa
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comedyblissoption posted:i did not expect biden to open multiple closed trump child concentration camps that presidential candidates like kamala had protested in the 2020 campaign He's opening progressively more camps, and therefore still qualifies under "more progressive". Checkmate lefties
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