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Big Bizness posted:Is there anything we can do to help India? Any medical organizations we can donate to, etc? Is it a funding / resources issue or just too many people not social distancing? Donate to whoever is opposing Modi?
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CarlosTheDwarf posted:airplane air is completely filtered every few minutes so I don't know if i'd call it a tin can of viruses. Airports are a cesspool in general, just wear a mask if you're hopping on a plane, and until you leave the airport would've avoided us much trouble
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Lolie posted:Japan has declared another state of emergency. Understandable, the Olympic Torch relay itself has already fired off a bunch of spreader events. I really hope they'll call the Olympics off sooner rather than later. I worry that the vaccination numbers will lead to false security, and they end up pushing through and having the Olympics regardless, and it just ends up being a superspreader event for some vaccine-resistant strain that spontaneously popped into existence right before.
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There was some initial weird reporting about India saying there was something in their environment and/or diet, constitution etc that made them more able to fight off infection but I don't think anything ever got proven about it (which I personally didn't believe). Bit in the unlikely event that was true maybe it's the "double mutation" variant they found over there now.
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Scaramouche posted:There was some initial weird reporting about India saying there was something in their environment and/or diet, constitution etc that made them more able to fight off infection but I don't think anything ever got proven about it (which I personally didn't believe). Bit in the unlikely event that was true maybe it's the "double mutation" variant they found over there now. All through last year people were wondering why this or that state in the US wasn’t exploding with cases. Eventually, they got their turn. Or they didn’t and are still waiting for it. India wasn’t doing anything all that special to avoid blowing up until now. There were probably a number of factors that let them get off easy in 2020. I certainly don’t think Indians had some special immunity that required a brand new variant to blow through.
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Scaramouche posted:There was some initial weird reporting about India saying there was something in their environment and/or diet, constitution etc that made them more able to fight off infection but I don't think anything ever got proven about it (which I personally didn't believe). Bit in the unlikely event that was true maybe it's the "double mutation" variant they found over there now. The most likely factor is that India's population is much younger than populations in western nations so they would be less susceptible to Covid. Now it sounds like the Indian variant is pretty ok at making younger people sick, which I supposed would be an expected evolutionary outcome in a younger population.
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gay picnic defence posted:The most likely factor is that India's population is much younger than populations in western nations so they would be less susceptible to Covid. There was a study published back in Febrary about Karnataka - a province in India, with some impressively high seroprevalence levels: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776292 posted:The adjusted proportion of positive IgG test results ranged from 22.8% to 53.1% across rural and 30.9% to 76.8% across urban areas (Figure). Overall rural-, urban-, and statewide-adjusted proportions were 37.4% (95% CI, 32.9%-41.8%), 45.6% (95% CI, 38.1%-53.1%), and 39.6% (95% CI, 35.7%-43.4%), respectively. It was claimed last year that the the low mortality numbers in india were due to the much younger demographics and lack of comorbidities, and the widespread infection resulted in substantial immunity. Their immunization plan included testing slums and urban areas and skipping them if seroprevalence was > 70%. Anyways, natural immunity has done gently caress all as the IndiaToday posted:Covid-19 situation in Karnataka uncontrollable now Seems very likely that there is no cross immunity from wildtype to B.1.617 - just like how there is no cross immunity from wildtype to the SA and Brazil variants. That natural immunity evasion is from E:484K for B.1.351 and P.1 - no one really knows much about the Indian variant which has E:484Q instead. Either those seroprevalence numbers were garbage, or this is a massive reinfection.
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Blitter posted:Seems very likely that there is no cross immunity from wildtype to B.1.617 - just like how there is no cross immunity from wildtype to the SA and Brazil variants. Because I've been wondering what's stopping one of these variants from becoming the dominant strain in somewhere like the US. I'm hoping the answer isn't "time."
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Zugzwang posted:Sooo in lay terms, scientists now think that people can catch any number of these variants because catching one doesn't provide immunity to the other? Or is the diminished immunity only antibody and not T-cell? Well it’s not quite as bad as “any number of these variants”. Recovery the wild type or with B.1.1.7 does not protect from B.1.351, but if a person is instead hit by B.1.351 first, then they probably won’t get B.1.1.7. Probably. Most of the “pairings” are unknown. Does immunity cross over between the South African and Indian strains? We don’t know. Maybe a person can catch both in either order. Maybe it’s more likely they only get the disease once, regardless of order. B.1.1.7 (“the British variant”) is the dominant strain in the U.S. because it’s more infectious. In an immunologically naive population, it runs up the score. There is a distinct possibility that as the U.S. population becomes increasingly resistant to B.1.1.7, through recovery from infection and through vaccination, that B.1.351 or another antibody‐resistant strain could dominate. Watch Israel. They’re a few months ahead of the U.S. on this. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Apr 24, 2021 |
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I don't know if these pics belong here or in the cursed images thread.  There were more cars behind me too.
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I still keep hearing dumbasses being surprised that CVS and Walgreens and McDonald's aren't open 24 hours right now. They haven't been for loving years if ever.
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https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1385612592329134082 First time those dumb perspex sneeze guards have actually saved someones life.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Airports are a cesspool in general, just wear a mask if you're hopping on a plane, and until you leave the airport Read that study again that was linked: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/3/20-4714_article quote:Combined, these data present a likely scenario of >4 SARS-CoV-2 transmission events during a long-haul flight from Dubai to Auckland. These transmission events occurred despite reported in-flight use of masks and gloves. We don't know how many would have been infected if the index patient had not worn a mask, but it would probably be more. I've said it before in this thread and it bears repeating: Masks will mitigate risk to some extent but are not very effective at preventing spread if you spend extended time together indoors. Avoiding others is the only way to be completely safe. Do not go to airports, do not fly, do not go on long bus or train journeys.
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Platystemon posted:There is a distinct possibility that as the U.S. population becomes increasingly resistant to B.1.1.7, through recovery from infection and through vaccination, that B.1.351 or another antibody‐resistant strain could dominate. Watch Israel. They’re a few months ahead of the U.S. on this. Fingers crossed on the booster shots for B.1.351/P.1. My biggest worry right now is that everyone thinks that "one vaccine == the pandemic's over," we open all the floodgates, the antibody-resistant variants come whooshing in, and the nightmare begins again.
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Read that study again that was linked: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/3/20-4714_article Also do not be randomly picked to do jury service for 2 weeks indoors with a bunch of randoms, which you can't legally get out of, after spending the entire year not going out of your house when you can possibly avoid it. *Opens post* poo poo.
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legooolas posted:Also do not be randomly picked to do jury service for 2 weeks indoors with a bunch of randoms, which you can't legally get out of, after spending the entire year not going out of your house when you can possibly avoid it. Show up in a full‐face respirator and hope they kick you for being allegedly unhinged.
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Picnic Princess posted:loving useless boomers I'm not too sympathetic to boomers at this point. If they want to risk getting killed by it, fine, gently caress em. EDIT: Apparently the Indian government's priority is covering up the fact that those posts on twitter are making it look bad. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-asks-twitter-take-down-some-tweets-critical-its-covid-19-handling-2021-04-24/ quote:The Indian government asked social media platform Twitter (TWTR.N) to take down dozens of tweets, including some by local lawmakers, that were critical of India’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak, as cases of COVID-19 again hit a world record. Vernii fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, this is what I'm doing. Israel has seen some evidence that B.1.351 breaks through the Pfizer vaccine to some extent, but to what extent, it's hard to say. Meaning that the vaccine doesn't appear to be as protective against it as it is against wild type or B.1.1.7, but it still might have some efficacy. Hard to say. I will gladly get a booster every year if needed, and this is from someone who has never even gotten a flu shot. My current struggle is trying to decide which risks are worth taking now that I’m vaccinated... Things I miss the most: travel and the gym. I could care less about restaurants and bars just let me do my squats in a gym and fly somewhere cool!
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liz posted:I will gladly get a booster every year if needed, and this is from someone who has never even gotten a flu shot. Get your flu shot.
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liz posted:I will gladly get a booster every year if needed, and this is from someone who has never even gotten a flu shot. legooolas posted:Also do not be randomly picked to do jury service for 2 weeks indoors with a bunch of randoms, which you can't legally get out of, after spending the entire year not going out of your house when you can possibly avoid it.  . It's in a few weeks. At least in my area, you can check online ahead of time whether you even need to come in (last time I didn't). Plus, I'm double-vaxxed.
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liz posted:I will gladly get a booster every year if needed, and this is from someone who has never even gotten a flu shot. I’m definitely traveling after my second dose next week. I’m over it.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Get your flu shot. Edit: Although in America if you are here it's a bit late, get it in September or October. nunsexmonkrock fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/SharnelleVella/status/1386241061928857600 Impressive if true, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was actually some college football game in Texas or whatever that just went ahead and held huge events last summer.
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nunsexmonkrock posted:Edit: Although in America if you are here it's a bit late, get it in September or October. Yeah I didn't mean now. I usually get mine in October. When I go to to the local VA office they'll just ask me around that time if I want one and I say yes. They're free at tons of places.
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nunsexmonkrock posted:Edit: Although in America if you are here it's a bit late, get it in September or October. You can generally get them through June in the northern hemisphere. That’s when most of the shots expire. It’s best to get them in September or October so they take effect for the worst of the flu season, but it’s worth picking them up even late.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like Japan reaffirming their commitment to doing the Olympics in a little over two months while simultaneously declaring a state of emergency just perfectly encapsulates the hosed up time we're all living in this might just be me and this might be a super controversial take and the public reception to what I am about to say will probably be the cause of my own lynching and the subsequent flaying of all of my skin that will ensue but in imo the olypmics arent a good idea this year
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Plant MONSTER. posted:this might just be me and this might be a super controversial take and the public reception to what I am about to say will probably be the cause of my own lynching and the subsequent flaying of all of my skin that will ensue but in imo the olypmics arent a good idea this year why would anyone be mad at you for the truth
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Plant MONSTER. posted:this might just be me and this might be a super controversial take and the public reception to what I am about to say will probably be the cause of my own lynching and the subsequent flaying of all of my skin that will ensue but in imo the olypmics arent a good idea this year They got savagely owned on these olympics. Going forward with the events with 0 spectators so all that funding and development with absolutely no payoff and just a bunch of crippled athletes to show for it.
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Plant MONSTER. posted:this might just be me and this might be a super controversial take and the public reception to what I am about to say will probably be the cause of my own lynching and the subsequent flaying of all of my skin that will ensue but in imo the olypmics arent a good idea this year True. But on the other hand, money.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:why would anyone be mad at you for the truth uh I have some bad news about the past year
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Zugzwang posted:Yeah, this is what I'm doing. Israel has seen some evidence that B.1.351 breaks through the Pfizer vaccine to some extent, but to what extent, it's hard to say. Meaning that the vaccine doesn't appear to be as protective against it as it is against wild type or B.1.1.7, but it still might have some efficacy. Hard to say. I might be mistaken but i'm sure I heard from some authority or another that it would be very unlikely for the vaccine to have no efficacy at all. I guess its how much you trust the 'experts' at this point. Who knows if they're just playing it down because they're never going to admit this crisis and capitalism don't mix. For what it's worth it was stated that variants will 'chip away' at resistance and not be a 'work' 'doesn't work' binary outcome. MarcusSA posted:I’m definitely traveling after my second dose next week. I’m over it. I was over it but i'm waiting to see how this India thing pans out. If it really is just wrecking young people we're back into 'collapse of society' times which means governments will have to react and... yeah. We're still ahead because we have working vaccines that can be adapted for variants but the battle has only just begun. India and the West did not use the time wisely and we're going to get a whole lot of poo poo new variants before we truly have this thing tamed. Short-term thinking is going to make this takes half a decade to stabilize. It sucks but we're on the right track. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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MarcusSA posted:I’m definitely traveling after my second dose next week. I’m over it. you can be "over it!!!!" and still be respectful of the fact that we aren't in a position globally or in the US to go back to casual travel yet and while that sucks, being "over it" doesn't change your risk factor or the fact that you could kill people. Regarde Aduck posted:It sucks but we're on the right track. so long as people stay home while needles go in arms, yep. but everybody's over it and wants to go to applebees and disney world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUZKkc7zAHo
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I’m in Sweden and it’s kinda wild to see. Pretty much nobody is wearing a mask anywhere. Restaurants and bars have to close at 830 but that’s about it.
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I'm of the mind of gently caress it i can live in this room for another 6 months while everyone in this city plagues themselves
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I had to travel for work so I had the cool decision of lose my house after no work for 18 months or maybe die. gently caress it. In for a penny.
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