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MassRafTer posted:I don't remember a single person saying Penelope or Abadon should win their matches and almost no one saying Anna Jay or Nyla should win their challenges. Talk about not understanding the role of a champion when they have a babyface challenger. people ABSOLUTELY were rooting for anna jay, here included. They didn't think she WOULD win, but they definitely rooted for her. And Tay, Ryo, Thunder Rosa in my memory. It's been pretty even I think. not that I'm agreeing with this dork that it's a bad thing, I really don't mind it.
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Procrastinator posted:people ABSOLUTELY were rooting for anna jay, here included. They didn't think she WOULD win, but they definitely rooted for her. And Tay, Ryo, Thunder Rosa in my memory. It's been pretty even I think. One of the things people held up as a strength of Okada's fourth reign is that he managed to get everyone supporting his challenger (except like Fale, EVIL and Marufuji I guess)
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Procrastinator posted:people ABSOLUTELY were rooting for anna jay, here included. They didn't think she WOULD win, but they definitely rooted for her. And Tay, Ryo, Thunder Rosa in my memory. It's been pretty even I think. There's a big difference between "rooting for someone to win" and "thinking someone should win and it's a booking mistake if they don't," and that Cageside tweet is arguing the latter. I think even Tay's biggest fans would agree she's not ready for a title reign, especially after they set up Britt/Shida which looks to be a mega-hot PPV program. The whole job of a babyface champion is to get crowds into the idea that someone could win even if they obviously aren't. When it's a heel challenger, that means working underneath to set up the big comeback. When it's a babyface challenger, that means giving them a valiant fight so they still look good in defeat. Tanahashi and Okada were masters of this formula, and oh by the way, they both drew a ton of money working that formula. At the end of the day, "I don't like this champion because they win too much" is still WWE brain rot, a relic of John Cena Derangement Syndrome that took over wrestling discourse for over a decade. Of course your stars should win all the time! That's why they're stars! Benne fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Apr 22, 2021 |
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WatermelonGun posted:WRESTLING DISCOURSE *clap clap clapclapclap*
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WE WANT DISCOURSE! DISCOURSE SUCKS!
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Jonny Nox posted:What was the original Taz tweet? It's deleted. it was about how guys nowadays aren't gassed up behemoths that can barely move like in the 80s and 90s
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Qoey posted:Taz and Excalibur cracking up on AEW Dark is the best part of Botchamania Taz does rule and yet there is that mysterious period of time when he did not for several years. Hmmmm.
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Cerebral Bore posted:THE LORE OF THE BLACK Greetings.
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Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Honestly theorycrafting the Fiend is kind of adorable at this point. really anything that involves putting more effort into thinking about WWE storylines than anyone in WWE is
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JUNGLE BOY posted:really anything that involves putting more effort into thinking about WWE storylines than anyone in WWE is If what you like is dumb and you secretly know it's dumb I guess you have to invent your own explanation for why it's actually brilliant.
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Remember in NXT when he just came out and he just loving wrestled and he like, barely even said anything and he just loving kicked people in the face. gently caress. gently caress!
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Squared Circle:quote:I think we can all agree that Alexa Bliss' character work during this last year has been fantastic. Now that she is moving away from Bray it is likely that she'll wrestle more. How much more? Who knows. Most of the responses are gravitating towards her beating whoever is champion for the title by Summerslam and going on a long dominant reign with Lilly at her side. The last thing the women in WWE need is Alexa running over everyone no-selling everything.
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WatermelonGun posted:he looks like garth marenghi
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DarkstarIV posted:Squared Circle: Basically the only thing that will get me to watch more of Raw is Alexa no selling everything and doing goofy Fiend offense.
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MassRafTer posted:Basically the only thing that will get me to watch more of Raw is Alexa no selling everything and doing goofy Fiend offense. I want her to continue her months long feud with Randy Orton which is the funniest thing I've seen from WWE in forever.
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Qoey posted:Here's my bad opinion: Everything Fiend-related has been awful for what feels like years now and I hate that they're developing lovely "lore" for Aleister Black now, too I thought you were going to give us a bad opinion.
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The problem with The Fiend (or Alexa now) is that its almost certainly a lock that WWE books Alexa as some unstoppable monster in the division despite being a below average (at best) wrestler and her gimmick just not being interesting at all. The Fiend stuff was interesting until they hosed everything up by making Seth Rollins scared of him. And I would not be shocked if they repeat that same mistake with Rhea/Charlotte/Asuka (whoever is champion at the time). Three women who logically should not be scared of Alexa (who doesn't even look or act remotely scary) and a literal doll. People keep thinking that supernatural gimmicks should hold titles, but I disagree in this day and age. Especially in WWE where they'll make the monster look incredibly strong to the point of where no one looks credible against them. If you want to push supernatural gimmicks that is fine, but keep them out of the title picture. Because nothing good ever comes of it if they are champion. In regards to WWE lore stuff, it feels like Vince saw the Tian Sha lore video that aired on NXT and how well received it was, and decided to do that except a thousand times worse.
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DarkstarIV posted:People keep thinking that supernatural gimmicks should hold titles, but I disagree in this day and age. Especially in WWE where they'll make the monster look incredibly strong to the point of where no one looks credible against them. If you want to push supernatural gimmicks that is fine, but keep them out of the title picture. Because nothing good ever comes of it if they are champion. I would agree, and in fact even WWE's own blueprint agrees. Sure, Undertaker held top titles from time to time, but more often than not somebody else was champ because they correctly figured out that he didn't need them.
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