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alsoRated PG-34 posted:the concept of there actually being gay/trans/disabled/female/gamer communities is neolib bullshit have you ever, like, spoken to a trans person. or a woman
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Dixon Chisholm posted:You can't have a good book about the afl cio because they are bad. you're right there's no reason to learn about the history that built today's conditions I just have to know they're bad and can dismiss them out of hand, along with every union in the country that is forced to affiliate with them by dearth of alternatives. Thanks.
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i think the first time i ever heard about the cio before the merger was in Zinn
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Wow, more like the american federation of losers
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Ferrinus posted:https://redsails.org/western-marxism-and-christianity/
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:yeah they will retaliate and probe you lol
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Hodgepodge posted:marx was a Jewish dude with a big beard who was dissatisfied with the Abrahamic religions of his day and critiqued them on moral and ethical terms on the grounds of economic justice and he had many disciplines like lenin, trotsky and kim il sung BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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karl marx was a trickery domain cleric worshipping the lawful evil god Dialectics (portfolio: jealousy, famine and purple hair)
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karl marx was a Commoner, maybe an Expert. however, he was the first character to ever put more than one or two points into Knowledge (History)
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Trade (Accounting) really paid off
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:that's right, jay lol
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animist posted:also being a woman or trans person doesn’t automatically make you a member of some community
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what about if you, like, have to work a job to survive. does that make you a member of anything
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indigi posted:what about if you, like, have to work a job to survive. does that make you a member of anything eligible for entry to the people's republic of comrade gay space jesus
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Rated PG-34 posted:being a woman or trans person doesn’t automatically make you a member of some community uh, well, some trans people consider themselves part of the gay community? does that count? then again that doesn't really exist either, at least not any more. just Google and raytheon holding pride parades in the empty shell of the bay area identity politics are for morons. btw that's another word you dipshits should probate for, as it's a slur for the mentally disabled.
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ToxicAcne posted:Why would a shift to syndicalism lead to deradicalizing? Say what you want about the CNT but even Marxist Leninist commentators praised them on the persistence of their radicalism. I suppose "syndicalism" was an incorrect term to use. I was rushing and tired. What I meant was that the AFL grew further and further away from the Socialist Party under Debs and started on a path that was focused on electoralism, pragmatism, and what they termed "industrial democracy", where the working class had enough votes and influence within the democratic process in order to win reforms. Samuel Gompers, though he called himself a socialist, strongly opposed Bolshevism and the spectre of "state socialism" and collectivization. Walling himself found more common ground with the likes of Max Stirner and other "pragmatists", and vocally supported Woodrow Wilson's entry into the war on the side of the Entente, as he believed that a low-tariff economic union, probably similar to the Eurozone of today, was a better solution for internecine warfare than Lenin's proscriptions against imperialism.
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Larry Parrish posted:uh, well, some trans people consider themselves part of the gay community? does that count? then again that doesn't really exist either, at least not any more. just Google and raytheon holding pride parades in the empty shell of the bay area https://americanstudies.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/Keyword%20Coalition_Readings.pdf This focusing upon our own oppression is embodied in the concept of identity politics. We believe that the most profound and potentially most radical politics come directly out of our own identity, as opposed to working to end somebody else's oppression. In the case of Black women this is a particularly repugnant, dangerous, threatening, and therefore revolutionary concept because it is obvious from looking at all the political movements that have preceded us that anyone is more worthy of liberation than ourselves. We reject pedestals, queenhood, and walking ten paces behind. To be recognized as human, levelly human, is enough.
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in fact that the "gay community", the "trans community", etc are not completely separate islands from but rather enmeshed in our wider society is exactly why we should not use slurs. unless, of course, we have no interest in building a workers' movement
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Larry Parrish posted:uh, well, some trans people consider themselves part of the gay community? does that count? then again that doesn't really exist either, at least not any more. just Google and raytheon holding pride parades in the empty shell of the bay area they all do still very much exist, offline and on, and major corporations, especially the defense industry, are doing everything they can to pinkwash their affectations and directives through a particularly warped lens, where, actually, "it's cool and inclusive to design and engineer on the behalf of empire! we've got your bank, those mean communists won't let you be who you if they have their way!" apart from the infinite money pouring from these freaks, along with other milquetoast effetes pushing the State Department line, they're doing their damndest to make dissenting opinion vanish
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this twitter user does a good job of talking about "identity politics" vis a vis capitalism in a thread starting here: https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1305941364836769792?s=20 a couple points i particularly liked: https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1305945288893317120?s=20 https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1305946181831241728?s=20 https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1305946596853518336?s=20 https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1305946763723829249?s=20
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I dont think the Woke bougies want to destroy caste.
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Being trans makes you a communist, the red card comes inside the welcome kit along with your gayification ray and complimentary soros credit card Also the last three pages are the worst that Cspam has to offer and all of you should feel bad
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ToxicAcne posted:I dont think the Woke bougies want to destroy caste. depends on what you mean by caste. they really do want the percentage of CEOs who are black to match the percentage of homeless people who are black, or at least most of them do. what they don't realize is that this is impossible
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Ferrinus posted:depends on what you mean by caste. they really do want the percentage of CEOs who are black to match the percentage of homeless people who are black, or at least most of them do. what they don't realize is that this is impossible why is it impossible? race is contingent and socially constructed, of course this is possible. the question is why should anyone who won't be one of those CEOs care?
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Brain Candy posted:why is it impossible? race is contingent and socially constructed, of course this is possible. the question is why should anyone who won't be one of those CEOs care? the sorting of humans into constitutionally worthy vs. unworthy in general, and race in particular, are constitutive of capitalism. it's actually impossible within liberal ideology to justify having a ceos on one hand and an underclass on the other without constructing and reinforcing explanations for why entire swathes of people need to be homeless or imprisoned or whatever. even gesturing at "smart" vs "stupid" or "hard-working" vs "lazy" is really just talking about race but managing to say the quiet part quiet even though capitalism has a tendency to flatten all distinctions besides those between boss and worker, it is built on a shitload of ineluctable and supposedly soul-deep distinctions like between black and white, man and woman, etc. a "pure" capitalism isn't attainable, although many liberals think it is
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The problem as I see it is that a lot of this...christ these terms are stupid... "woke capital" or whatever increasingly conceptualizes racism as inherent and immutable. It's just a different kind of caste between enlightened non-racists and the morlock racists.
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I think "Woke Capital" as a goal wants to allow a small number of people from oppressed nations to succeed as a way to suppress revolutionary movements emerging from that nation. It's not particularly interested in the annihilation of racial or national categories. I think an interesting small struggle occurring right now is Democrats embracing a racialization of Latino and Asian American communities as something other than white, while Republicans seem to be pushing for those groups to follow a similar path as "white ethnics."
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Wtf does Woke Capital even mean. I'm sorry I used it but I refuse to edit that post.
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Ferrinus posted:the sorting of humans into constitutionally worthy vs. unworthy in general, and race in particular, are constitutive of capitalism. it's actually impossible within liberal ideology to justify having a ceos on one hand and an underclass on the other without constructing and reinforcing explanations for why entire swathes of people need to be homeless or imprisoned or whatever. even gesturing at "smart" vs "stupid" or "hard-working" vs "lazy" is really just talking about race but managing to say the quiet part quiet yes, but i think it's important to note that these particular distinctions are contingent and fluid. capitalism can solve 20th century racism at the cost of 21st century racism: the underclass is the necessary feature, not any particular configuration. this is important, because capitalism will pink-wash bombs and have black ceos while ramping up sinophobia and conflict with global south and to a liberal this seems like progress
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Brain Candy posted:yes, but i think it's important to note that these particular distinctions are contingent and fluid. capitalism can solve 20th century racism at the cost of 21st century racism: the underclass is the necessary feature, not any particular configuration. this is important, because capitalism will pink-wash bombs and have black ceos while ramping up sinophobia and conflict with global south and to a liberal this seems like progress i don't think it can, or will, or wants to, solve 20th century racism. anti blackness has been the fulcrum of white supremacy (this is a paraphrase of some writer whose name i don't recall) for basically as long as there's been an america and it's not going away whether or not there are black CEOs. in fact black CEOs help us make sure that the greater part of the black population continues to suffer poverty and police terror - see? if they really deserved not to be shot at random, they would've started their own company like X did
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