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Madkal posted:And if you like Deadshot and Ostrander's mini you should check out Gage's Deadshot mini which is tonally different than Ostrander's but a lot of fun.
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Can anyone recommend an 'art book' style collection of Jack Kirby's work? I'm not looking to read the comics per se but really have fallen in love with his visuals after getting exposed to them in the past couple of months. Something hardbound, glossy and bigger than 8.5 x 11 would be great.
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Pershing posted:Can anyone recommend an 'art book' style collection of Jack Kirby's work? I'm not looking to read the comics per se but really have fallen in love with his visuals after getting exposed to them in the past couple of months. Something hardbound, glossy and bigger than 8.5 x 11 would be great. This one There also older portfolio edition things on eBay but they're from the 70s/80s so YMMV
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Second hand book shop nearby keeps getting more and more trades. Noticed they had X-Treme X-Men. The name is putting me off though. Is it worth getting (I think they have 4 trades). Also a few mid-2000 Spiderman books. I know Slott is disliked in these parts but is Spiderman no good?
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Apr 26, 2021 21:53
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Madkal posted:Second hand book shop nearby keeps getting more and more trades. Noticed they had X-Treme X-Men. The name is putting me off though. Is it worth getting (I think they have 4 trades). Also a few mid-2000 Spiderman books. I know Slott is disliked in these parts but is Spiderman no good? There's two different runs called X-Treme X-Men of very different relative qualities. The Greg Pak written version is dece. Most people hate Dan Slott specifically because of his Spider-Man.
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Apr 26, 2021 21:58
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Skwirl posted:There's two different runs called X-Treme X-Men of very different relative qualities. The Greg Pak written version is dece. I think the ones they have are Claremont.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:17
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Madkal posted:I think the ones they have are Claremont. I haven't read those because of opinions shared by people who have.
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Apr 26, 2021 22:23
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Skwirl posted:There's two different runs called X-Treme X-Men of very different relative qualities. The Greg Pak written version is dece. To be fair to Dan Slott, his Fantastic Four is also bad.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:09
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Cloks posted:To be fair to Dan Slott, his Fantastic Four is also bad. Yeah, but I think most of us hated before he even got that job.
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Apr 26, 2021 23:17
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Cloks posted:To be fair to Dan Slott, his Fantastic Four is also bad. Hey now, so was his iron man
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Apr 26, 2021 23:22
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All Slott really has is half a good She Hulk run
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Apr 27, 2021 00:53
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I seriously don't get why he's allowed to write such high profile poo poo. At least with Greg Land's lovely art you understand "well, we need 22 pages drawn by this time" and you know you'll get it in time, but according to that Disney doc Slott is constantly turning in scripts at the last minute, half the time Christos Gage needs to finish them.
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Apr 27, 2021 01:06
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I like Arkham: Living Hell by Slott but that's the only thing I have read by him.
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Apr 27, 2021 01:35
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Madkal posted:I think the ones they have are Claremont. *RUN*
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Apr 27, 2021 13:36
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Slott’s Silver Surfer Succeeds!
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Yeah, I loved Slott's Silver Surfer (the Allreds had a lot to do with that) and most of his She-Hulk. But I haven't read his Spider-Man or FF.
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Hello, thread. I started looking at comics seriously for the first time recently. There are a few I've found and like a lot, but when I browse to find new titles, it's like a 0.1% hit rate for stuff I actually end up liking. I've liked series with a consistent writer for a long run, ideally start-to-finish, and preferablty with consistent art: Gwenpool and Squirrel Girl by North, Sunstone and Harleen by Sejic, Transmetropolitan by Ellis, even a few of the more coherent Deadpool TPBs. Whenever I pivot to find more by a given writer, they usually have a ton of one off credits in long-running series, and I can't imagine dropping in for one issue of something then sticking with it while it violently jerks from tone to tone as writers shuffle through. Same when I try to follow a character to another writer/context. I don't think I'd care about mainline Marvel/DC stuff like Avengers or whatever, and I definitely steer toward completed series over things trickling out monthly. Been feeling kind of lost, just eeping by following writers to their other fully-authored series and getting burned 99% of the time I strike out on my own.
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Stabby McDamage posted:Hello, thread. I started looking at comics seriously for the first time recently. There are a few I've found and like a lot, but when I browse to find new titles, it's like a 0.1% hit rate for stuff I actually end up liking. Not sure what specific genre you might like but I recommend Vertigo or Image titles if you want something with the same creative team throughout and all self contained. If there is something you specifically like thought, those imprints do carry diverse styles too.
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Seconding Image books. If you liked Transmet, I’d tell you to check out Jonathan Hickman. East of West recently wrapped up and is like Americana mixed with a biblical apocalypse. Red Wing is a space sci-fi story. Nightly News about how media manufactures boogeymen.
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Darwyn cooke and Dave Stewart's dc the new frontier Burnham and Schoening's idw Ghostbusters Mike carey and Peter gross' vertigo lucifer Kate leth and Brittney williams' marvel hellcat Marjorie liu and sana takeda's image Monstress isn't done yet but it's been the same team for all 33 issues Kieron gillen and Jamie mckelvie's image the wicked and the divine Kurt busiek and Brent Anderson's astro city..i think that's still at vertigo for now??? Jeff Smith's Bone, i don't actually know who publishes that Ed piskor's Fantagraphics hip hop family tree
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site posted:Jeff Smith's Bone, i don't actually know who publishes that Scholastic for the color books. I think Cartoon Books still self-publishes the b&w "phone book".
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If I was to do specific titles I like Brian K Vaughan stuff a lot so you go with: Y The Last Man (kind of explanatory in the title) Paper Girls (think time travel mixed in with nostalgic 80s stuff) Saga (still technically on going but is a solid sci fi space romp) As for other Vertigo titles Gaiman's Sandman is a all time classic; Lucifer by Carrey and Gross is excellent about the Devil trying very hard to lead a normal life; Aaron's Scalped which is a gritty crime drama on a reservation; Azzerello's 100 Bullets which is a gritty crime mystery about a mysterious man who gives people a briefcase with 100 bullets and evidence about people who wronged them. As for Image the above mentioned Saga and Paper Girls. Monstress is excellent and still on going though.
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Apr 28, 2021 05:26
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Let's not recommend Saga for someone looking for a complete series when its current status is "on indefinite hiatus"
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I've been on a similar journey. Sandman is 100% an all time great. I loved Preacher and am currently going through The Boys and enjoying that (but not quite as much as the show).
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Thanks, these are a lot of leads to dig into! I thought about my question more after I posted it, and I think it boils down to "why can't these comics be more like books?", just because the medium is so different from any I'm used to. Excited to give these recommendations a shot!
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Chin Strap posted:I've been on a similar journey. Sandman is 100% an all time great. I loved Preacher and am currently going through The Boys and enjoying that (but not quite as much as the show). Hitman would be worth checking out if you like those
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Site already mentioned it, but Lucifer is a must read for any fan of Sandman. It's not the complete run (and honestly the ending kinda sucks), but the Ennis Hellblazer run has a beginning middle and end and doesn't require any previous knowledge of the book. Edit, I meant the ending of Hellblazer in general, not the ending of Ennis run. The Ennis run works as a complete story. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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Try Scalped.
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Stabby McDamage posted:I think it boils down to "why can't these comics be more like books?", just because the medium is so different from any I'm used to. The mainstream of the medium operated as monthly installments about a character going on for decades, eventually expanding into shared universes. It wasn't designed to tell a story from beginning to end by a single authorial voice. It's like comparing a long running soap opera to a movie. Stuff like Image comics and Vertigo still operates on the monthly schedule, which leads to longer collections and, depending on the project, switches in the creative team over time. You can absolutely find single volume books designed that way from the beginning, but they are comparatively rare and generally put out by indie/book publishers. Two Brothers was the first thing to come to mind. https://www.darkhorse.com/Books/28-766/Two-Brothers-HC
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I think almost everything Fantagraphics publishes is either single volume graphic novels or work the way like a series of mystery novels with the same detective does.
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Skwirl posted:I think almost everything Fantagraphics publishes is either single volume graphic novels or work the way like a series of mystery novels with the same detective does. The only thing I really buy from Fantagraphics is Love and Rockets which is, like, the opposite of a one and done. 
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First:Second also specialize in graphic novels (and I am going to be a snob here and differentiate between graphic novels and trades). So if you want a novel like item done in a comic book format (so something that is one volume, one and done, beginning middle and end in one book) check out stuff like Blankets, Bone single phonebook sized volume, Habibi, Contract with God, Maus, Andre the Giant, Palestine, Fun Home etc. If you want something that was from a run of single issues collected into one or more volumes then I recommend Vertigo or Image stuff for the reasons stated above. Vertigo has also published some one and done graphic novels as well (Cuba: My Revolution and Cairo are the ones that immediately comes to mind but I am sure there are more)
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Stabby McDamage posted:Hello, thread. I started looking at comics seriously for the first time recently. There are a few I've found and like a lot, but when I browse to find new titles, it's like a 0.1% hit rate for stuff I actually end up liking. A few more that haven't been mentioned yet, all of which are complete and collected: Low Sex Criminals Punisher Max by Garth Ennis (various art teams but one writer) Swamp Thing by Alan Moore (fairly consistent art team) Black Hammer The Cartoon History of the Universe Silver Surfer by Slott/Allred Akira Nausicaä Lone Wolf and Cub (28 volumes!) Assassination Classroom
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Action Jacktion posted:A few more that haven't been mentioned yet, all of which are complete and collected: Thanks! I didn't want to spam the thread with "thanks" over and over, but I am noting all this stuff and putting it in queue.
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Stabby McDamage posted:Hello, thread. I started looking at comics seriously for the first time recently. There are a few I've found and like a lot, but when I browse to find new titles, it's like a 0.1% hit rate for stuff I actually end up liking. A few more I love that hopefully haven't been mentioned yet: Starman by James Robinson, Tony Harris, and Peter Snejbjerg (a lot of it is out of print, but a new Omnibus is coming soon. It's my favorite comic series of all time.) Daredevil (a lot of complete runs of high quality, but my favorite is by Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev) Sleeper by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips (starts with a 5-issue prequel miniseries called Point Blank, by Brubaker and Colin Wilson) Chew by John Layman and Rob Guillory Hawkeye by Matt Fraction, David Aja, and Annie Wu Superior Foes of Spider-Man by Nick Spencer and Steve Lieber Suicide Squad by John Ostrander (the biggest influence on the upcoming movie) The Losers by Andy Diggle and Jock G.I. Joe: Cobra: The Last Laugh by Christos Gage, Mike Costa, and Antonio Fuso Mister Miracle by Tom King and Mitch Gerads Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen by Matt Fraction and Steve Lieber Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 01:08 on May 2, 2021 |
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Starman by James Robinson, Tony Harris, and Peter Snejbjerg (a lot of it is out of print, but a new Omnibus is coming soon. It's my favorite comic series of all time.) I wish they'd do oversized hardcovers or Absolutes instead of the paperback collecting 50+ issues they're releasing. I need to re-read Starman at some point though. One more that I forgot on my list above is James Roberts's run on Transformers More than Meets the Eye and Lost Light. It crosses over with other books sometimes but is mainly self-contained.
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Action Jacktion posted:I wish they'd do oversized hardcovers or Absolutes instead of the paperback collecting 50+ issues they're releasing. I need to re-read Starman at some point though. Edit: I misremembered. They're regular sized hardcovers.
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Action Jacktion posted:I wish they'd do oversized hardcovers or Absolutes instead of the paperback collecting 50+ issues they're releasing. I need to re-read Starman at some point though. Absolutely. Best Transformers fiction of all time, not that there's much to challenge it. The only thing I have real nostalgia for is the 1986 Transformers: The Movie (not even the TV series that surrounded it), and I'll fully admit the movie ain't great. But Roberts' comics were so much better than they had any right to be. They're just drat good science fiction/adventure stories that cross into almost every other genre, from mystery to romance, from comedy to body horror. But I think there is a chunk in the middle I've never read, because Hoopla skipped several volumes of MTMTE.
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Thanks for the heads up about the Starman Omnibus! Snagged a preorder. Can’t wait! It’s also my favourite book of all time.
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hadji murad posted:Thanks for the heads up about the Starman Omnibus! Snagged a preorder. Can’t wait! It’s also my favourite book of all time. Nice! I had all the singles, so I had them bound into four custom hardcover volumes over a decade ago. Unfortunately that means Starman #81 wasn't included.
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