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Am i the rear end in a top hat for starting a vote kick for mic spammers? Players kept yelling at me that i should just use mute but i dont think we should suffer them at all.
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Hihohe posted:Am i the rear end in a top hat for starting a vote kick for mic spammers? Players kept yelling at me that i should just use mute but i dont think we should suffer them at all. Why do you want to kick them instead of muting them? What's the difference for you?
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Apr 27, 2021 05:04
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Ariong posted:Why do you want to kick them instead of muting them? What's the difference for you? cuz gently caress em, that's why (depends on how obnoxious they are though, if they're just playing chill music etc then just mute and move on.)
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Apr 27, 2021 05:21
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Straight White Shark posted:cuz gently caress em, that's why Very loud russian screaming (maybe rap there was a beat behind it). And then when that vote passed his friend did earrape russian anthem.
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Apr 27, 2021 05:40
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If enough people voted yes to actually kick them then you're not the rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 27, 2021 05:42
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On the other hand, if the players you're trying to get to vote yes are telling you to just mute them, you should probably just mute them. If they want to listen to the micspammer's terrible music that's their prerogative.
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Apr 27, 2021 05:44
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never feel guilt or shame for calling votes on screamers
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Apr 27, 2021 05:57
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Ariong posted:What's the difference for you? It's less disruptive to the game/team to have one person start a vote and 10 people press F1 or F2 (or nothing) than it is to have up to 11 people go through the process of muting an idiot. EDIT: It's also not permanent. People should prefer they be kicked for a temporary cringe lapse in civility than be added to peoples' mute lists and risk future comms being unheard. (Which is why people should delete tf/voice_ban.dt from time to time.) Girbot fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Apr 27, 2021 05:57
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I was jokingly going to say depends on if you like their music or not but you really run into the aforementioned problem of what if everyone else likes their music. In my experience they're voted out pretty quickly and decisively but man I hate to kick real people in this game all the same. All it takes is a crack and boom you're either full of bots or spending the rest of the the map queuing up kicks for them
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Apr 27, 2021 06:44
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just run voice_enable 0 and you will forever be immune to squeaky teenager rage and whatever trash passes for humor among the Extremely Online
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Apr 27, 2021 14:55
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bindtoggle <KEY> voice_scale 0 1 Will allow you to toggle voice on and off without needing to reconnect to a server to reenable voice chat and you'll still be able to see when people are talking but not hear them.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:00
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Are there still aimbots on every server?
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Apr 27, 2021 18:04
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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:Are there still aimbots on every server? Yep. Someone made a new creche of bots today, actually. Bunch of new names and account ages under 24 hours. TF2 Bot Detector puts in work, though.
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Apr 27, 2021 18:05
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We're through the peak, but yeah, they're still around in enough quantity to be annoying. https://github.com/PazerOP/tf2_bot_detector
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Apr 27, 2021 18:09
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People have gotten pretty good about kicking them quickly if you've got a enough real human beings but if they get a critical mass it's pretty much impossible to boot them all. It's a crying shame. At least the bots in Diablo 2 are benign at worst and immensely helpful at best. Is there any real technical reason valve can't just perma all these or is it just disinterest/laziness? VPNs, something? I don't know poo poo about IT stuff
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Apr 27, 2021 20:08
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Milo and POTUS posted:People have gotten pretty good about kicking them quickly if you've got a enough real human beings but if they get a critical mass it's pretty much impossible to boot them all. It's a crying shame. At least the bots in Diablo 2 are benign at worst and immensely helpful at best. It'd be nice if they permabanned the existing bots, but as long as the game is f2p, more bots can be created easily. I feel like some basic heuristics could shorten considerably the list of suspected bots for a human to review. * Queued or playing a game for 20 hours or more a day * In-game name doesn't match account name or drifts too severely from account name * Threshold of votes levied against account (not successful kicks, as the bots can easily dodge kicks) * Only plays one class, especially sniper * Uses unprintable characters in name * Puts newlines into chat And so on. You wouldn't want to make any of those criteria ban automatically, but it could easily narrow the list.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:13
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Milo and POTUS posted:People have gotten pretty good about kicking them quickly if you've got a enough real human beings but if they get a critical mass it's pretty much impossible to boot them all. It's a crying shame. At least the bots in Diablo 2 are benign at worst and immensely helpful at best. A little of column A (F2P game = infinite accounts, virtual computing, IPs are dynamically assigned to 99.99% of users and held short term). LOTS of column B.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:16
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Simple solution for stopping the bots, disable the headshot mechanic entirely
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Apr 27, 2021 22:02
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At this point, I’m not sure what they even can do outside of dropping Linux support 
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Apr 27, 2021 23:45
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Hence my suggestion of dropping headshots as a mechanic, even without them Sniper can still drop 5 out of 9 classes with a fully charged shot if they aren't overhealed and the other 4 all get dropped to half health or lower If that's going too far than instead just change it so headshots only minicrit rather than full crit(essentially how the Sydney Sleeper currently works), as a fully charged shot now kills everything that isn't a Heavy, but it still solves the problems that a bot can currently cause by quickscoping headshots, since an uncharged scoped headshot would only deal 68 damage instead of 150, indirectly this would effectively buff the usefulness of Sniper's non rifle weapons as he can't rely on close range quickscope shots anymore, and would also make the Huntsman slightly stronger too as I'm picturing these headshot changes only being for rifles(since the Huntsman fires a projectile instead of being hitscan), in fact thinking this over this is probably the better idea
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fyi even though the current robot army doesn't do this heavy aimbots are actually more server-destroying than sniper ones because a laser-accurate stream of minigun bullets shreds people about as fast as continuous uncharged headshots and comes from a class that has 3 times as much health and doesn't have predictable pauses in between shots the actual solution is to make the game cost money again. it's not like it's getting a lot of new players, anyway
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Butt Detective posted:At this point, I’m not sure what they even can do outside of dropping Linux support Don't allow F2P's on Linux. Maybe that would work?
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Apr 28, 2021 00:31
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Can clients still hack bullet spread? I thought that vulnerability got patched along the way. Perfect tracking is dangerous but still manageable at most ranges.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:32
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cock hero flux posted:the actual solution is to make the game cost money again. it's not like it's getting a lot of new players, anyway yeah, this is correct. but will never happen, so. whatever
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the holy poopacy posted:Can clients still hack bullet spread? I thought that vulnerability got patched along the way. Perfect tracking is dangerous but still manageable at most ranges. It's less that you hack bullet spread and more you know how each bullet will spread, so you can adjust your aim for each individual bullet to counter spread. You can tell someone has nospread by spectating them and looking for them to shake their aim in tiny, incomprehensible motions, yet somehow perfectly land every shot.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:40
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yeah removing linux support and making the game cost money could help stem the tide of bots, but having played about 3k hours of csgo most of them before it went f2p, money is definitely not a barrier for hacks. the money barrier sure would be nice if it were there tho
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ArfJason posted:yeah removing linux support and making the game cost money could help stem the tide of bots, but having played about 3k hours of csgo most of them before it went f2p, money is definitely not a barrier for hacks. the money barrier sure would be nice if it were there tho Hacks and bots are different. There are still hackers, but they have to at least try to seem legit.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:41
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I know it seems unbelievable but there are still people who use hacks to seem like they are better that they really are in this dead gay game.
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Apr 28, 2021 03:39
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Hackers are ultimately still individual people trying to enjoy the game, so the influence of any one hacker is pretty minimal. They're way less of a problem than one shithead running a thousand bots.
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Hacks and bots are different. There are still hackers, but they have to at least try to seem legit. yeah i wrote that in the post at first but edited it out cause it felt overxplainy, which is why i kept it at "these barriers would stop bots, but not hacks"
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Apr 28, 2021 04:16
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it's really telling that the best way to mitigate the problem with bots is provided and distributed by players rather than valve
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Apr 28, 2021 05:31
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Any of you try the FaceIT offerings for casual TF2? Only 9 maps right now but how's the play?
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I like the gameplay, it’s good. Usually balanced matches, always no hackers, and it’s stopwatch format. In terms of maps it’s basically 24/7 badwater though, you’ll be glad for the once or twice a night when you get to play barnblitz or borneo just to break up the tedium on the maps. The lack of goldrush is especially disappointing and yet there’s even worse trash like dustbowl in the list. The map rotation needs work. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 09:56
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Paul MaudDib posted:I like the gameplay, it’s good. Usually balanced matches, always no hackers, and it’s stopwatch format. I'd agree with this. If I'm gonna play tf2 I'll usually fire up FaceIt
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Apr 28, 2021 10:29
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is 2fort still in the map list
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I guess I should note that the bottom tier of the ranking system is absolutely potato but once you make it up a couple ranks things are fine and generally balanced, so just push through itJabor posted:is 2fort still in the map list I dunno but the way it works your selections are more of a “suggestion” anyway, I haven’t been the captain but I think the way it works is it picks the four most popular maps and then both captains take turns eliminating their least favorite maps so essentially unless you get everyone to select 2fort and both captains choose not to eliminate it then you’re never playing 2fort. You’re just also never going to play anything that’s not Badwater either. Like I said, you play barnblitz and Borneo maybe once or twice a night each, I’ve played harvest once and gorge twice ever, and other than that it’s just a 24/7 badwater community. But basically even if you unselect everything except 2fort you will probably never go to it anyway because of the way the selection mechanism works. I’ve unselected badwater a lot and I still end up going to badwater all the time because that’s all anyone else wants to play. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Apr 28, 2021 |
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Apr 28, 2021 10:34
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I hate when people absolutely fixate on one particular map in pretty much anything I've ever played and that includes pretty much all good games lol. I never really understood it but I might just be in the minority
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Apr 28, 2021 23:48
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human nature. people would rather be good at something they know than bad at something they dont. not to say *every* map ever is good, a bunch of them get left on the wayside for good reasons, but its sad to think the we likely missed out on a lot of gems in cs, tf2, q3, etc
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Badwater might be the best map in the game, but you gotta mix in some of the okay maps too. Upward, sure. Barnblitz is a nice change of pace. I like Brazil and Swiftwater enough too. Goldrush and Thunder Mountain take far too long but can be really fun.
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