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Groke posted:Nobody can really be surprised by this.This is how it has been with Paradox games since the original Europa Universalis. Except in those days we didn't automatically get the bugfixes distributed online. Hilarious bugs I agree, but placeholder/missing graphics I feel like it's a new one. Even Imperator for all its warts did have a finished UI.
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People say that Paradox releases were always rushed as if we didn't have CK3 last year.
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Apr 27, 2021 15:06
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Apr 27, 2021 15:11
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Literally the worst release in the last decade. Paradox should be ashamed.
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Apr 27, 2021 15:23
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Groke posted:Nobody can really be surprised by this.This is how it has been with Paradox games since the original Europa Universalis. Except in those days we didn't automatically get the bugfixes distributed online. there is some bugginess and QA-team-getting-sacked-again oversights but this is actually an unfinished product of live code half way through development. don't buy johan team's stuff anymore
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This thread is giving me some Sword of the Stars 2 launch day vibes.
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“Paradox had a good release recently, I’m sure they’ve bested their reputation as having bad or buggy releases!” Paradox:
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The game won't even launch on my Linux box, and on my Win10 machine the game crashes right after selecting a country. I can't believe the DLC shipped in this state.
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Can someone explain how the Khmer are just able to waltz past my level 3 fort? I have almost 500 hours in the game but the fort mechanics are still opaque to me. 
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Apr 27, 2021 16:20
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The changes they made to AI spending seem to have caused them to sit at way under force limit during peace.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Can someone explain how the Khmer are just able to waltz past my level 3 fort? I have almost 500 hours in the game but the fort mechanics are still opaque to me. You can always move into and out of capital forts iirc. Avoid forts right next to a capital that has any chance of being involved in a war you're in.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:47
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You can always move into and out of capital forts iirc. Avoid forts right next to a capital that has any chance of being involved in a war you're in. Okay then I understand, thank you. Also, are you guys really surprised that the latest release is a disaster? When was the last time something that Johan was involved in turned out to be good at first?
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Can someone explain how the Khmer are just able to waltz past my level 3 fort? I have almost 500 hours in the game but the fort mechanics are still opaque to me. I think Johan has said that even he doesn't understand the fort rules. There's so many exceptions and special cases that it's completely inscrutable now.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Okay then I understand, thank you. imperator was actually finished, just trash
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There are always bugs and problems with a big update but it seems like there are a lot more issues than normal.Edgar Allen Ho posted:I would like to know how this release happened in this state. No shade at the devs or QAs, I know they don't set the schedule- but like, did somebody gently caress up and release the wrong build or something? It's kinda hilarious. 
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Apr 27, 2021 17:29
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Poil posted:There are always bugs and problems with a big update but it seems like there are a lot more issues than normal. All software sucks.
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Pump it up! Do it! posted:Can someone explain how the Khmer are just able to waltz past my level 3 fort? I have almost 500 hours in the game but the fort mechanics are still opaque to me. Can't really say without more context. What county did the AI army enter the fort from? Remember ZoC does not extend past your borders unless it's your subject so if they came from the south east they are fine. If they came from the south west they should of been blocked unless they issued a move command before the big fort had garrison lamentable dustman fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Apr 27, 2021 |
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Apr 27, 2021 18:13
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It's weird that the requirements for monuments are based on province religion/culture rather than the whole nation's religion/culture, unless I'm misunderstanding it. It kind of compounds the balance issues by making it way easier to stack the additional monument modifiers. Given this patch I have no idea if that was an intentional feature or not.
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Apr 27, 2021 18:56
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Gamerofthegame posted:imperator was actually finished, just trash There was no ledger or MP chat. Every battle gave you exactly 1 warscore as a placeholder value. Imperator was both unfinished and trash on release.
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Apr 27, 2021 18:57
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woke up to leviathan lmao good poo poo
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WHY DO I KEEP BUYING PARADOX DLC godfuckingdamnit *starts CK3 back up*
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AnoHito posted:There was no ledger or MP chat. Every battle gave you exactly 1 warscore as a placeholder value. Lack of features you might want is not the same as releasing new features with placeholder art.
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ilitarist posted:People say that Paradox releases were always rushed as if we didn't have CK3 last year. yeah after CK2's release pdox changed from 'consistently awful releases' to 'wildly inconsistent releases' this seems p bad though, which is kinda funny after last diary's statement of intent. I hope johan takes a vacation and avoids forum comments for a while
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Fuligin posted:this seems p bad though, which is kinda funny after last diary's statement of intent. I hope johan takes a vacation and avoids forum comments for a while 
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Apr 27, 2021 19:41
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I started a new Portugal game and some rando native state started a war against my Brazilian colony state and for some reason I was entirely uninvolved in all that. Wonder if it's a bug or what.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:04
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Kemper Boyd posted:I started a new Portugal game and some rando native state started a war against my Brazilian colony state and for some reason I was entirely uninvolved in all that. Wonder if it's a bug or what. Feature, been like that for a long time. Want to help out, use Enforce Peace.
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Apr 27, 2021 20:05
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no better QA test than a release tbh
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Apr 27, 2021 20:08
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quote:If you don't have the dlc active, your diplo screen is broken lol
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It's weird. It's such an old game at this point, with so much DLC, it's not like anyone was desperately waiting for this to come out as soon as possible. I'm usually vaguely aware of what's going on with Paradox releases but it was a surprise to me to see that this was out today. So what was the rush? Why not get it to a fit state? Are the paradox financials so delicate that they just HAVE to release it in the designated window?
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johan needs to be removed from any managerial position imo
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fuf posted:It's weird. It's such an old game at this point, with so much DLC, it's not like anyone was desperately waiting for this to come out as soon as possible. I'm usually vaguely aware of what's going on with Paradox releases but it was a surprise to me to see that this was out today. So what was the rush? Why not get it to a fit state? Are the paradox financials so delicate that they just HAVE to release it in the designated window?
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Apr 27, 2021 20:23
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This sounds more like a corporate "get it out by the deadline" issue.
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Poil posted:Profits now! Now now now! Think of the poor shareholders! Yep, the shift in the company after it went public was extremely noticeable. As always, the instant shareholders became involved everything went straight off a cliff in search of short term profit.
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This isn’t even conducive to short term profit, though. And it’s very different from the slower, more conservative approach that the CK3 team is taking.
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the last time i laughed so hard at a paradox game was when i first saw glitterhoof turn up in CK2, brilliant content in this new one
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Kemper Boyd posted:I started a new Portugal game and some rando native state started a war against my Brazilian colony state and for some reason I was entirely uninvolved in all that. Wonder if it's a bug or what. Actually, this reminds me of a strategy I've wanted to try out. I've done it on a test basis but not in a proper game so can't tell for sure if it's worth it, but it's magnificently stupid: 1. Be an Old World country, move your capital to the New World. Now you count as a native. 2. Expand like an idiot for a while, especially eat all colonial nations you can, with impunity. In fact as long as there are no colonies owned by the mother countries nearby, you won't get any AE with them either. (For extra laughs, do this as Russia and spam Siberian Frontiers everywhere.) 2b. DO NOT STATE ANYTHING in the New World, because you're not staying longer than necessary. In fact, do not even core provinces you take from colonial nations, they don't cause overextension so you can just let them sit there for the duration. 3. When you feel like you've eaten enough, MOVE YOUR CAPITAL back to the Old World. Boom, all your New World holdings turn into colonial nations, and they can do their own coring and stating. Now you have a massive colonial empire, and your European neighbours don't even care that you took all their poo poo, because you were totally dressed as natives when you did it, and now you're back to wearing regular hats again. The only real drawback I can think of (except for the opportunity cost) is that your economy may hurt some during the exile period (at least if you have large Old World holdings, state maintenance will go up by a lot).
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Kemper Boyd posted:I started a new Portugal game and some rando native state started a war against my Brazilian colony state and for some reason I was entirely uninvolved in all that. Wonder if it's a bug or what. to explain, colonials and natives can slapfight each other without waking up their dads but dad can get angry about it if you opt to
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Groke posted:Actually, this reminds me of a strategy I've wanted to try out. I've done it on a test basis but not in a proper game so can't tell for sure if it's worth it, but it's magnificently stupid:
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