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Dexo posted:I'm a veteran of super dumb Gamefaqs vs poo poo. Thank you for your service.
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Limitless was basically a movie about a person with superhuman intelligence, which in practice ends up being photographic memory. All the MCU heroes have some variant of super strength or super combat skills with the exception of the villain from Jessica Jones.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:24
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Strange is pretty much a Deus Ex Machina in the comics but there’s no textual reason to believe he’s even the Sorcerer Supreme in the MCU other than he was the protagonist of his film.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:26
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Floppychop posted:That's why superman is boring, "god level in every category" makes a lame character. It's the same reason I hated Hulk Hogan and John Cena, a good guy shouldn't just be an unstoppable god because there's no conflict that way. You always know how things are going to end.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:36
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It's almost like they're setting up a confrontation in Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness so we learn more about their relative power scales. I've also heard rumors that Captain Marvel 2 will involve Carol hanging with Korvac out in deep space where she'll basically be on equal footing/outright inferior to someone, or they'll do some variant on the Rogue/Mystique thing where Rogue siphons Carol's powers and she'll have to get them back somehow. And this all ignores whatever horseshit crops up in Eternals, which are the same species as Thanos in the comics, so you can expect some serious power level poo poo to come up there as well.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:39
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Ravel posted:Limitless was basically a movie about a person with superhuman intelligence, which in practice ends up being photographic memory. The best part of Limitless is that he expands his mind so much that he can take over the world, but the first thing the movie does to demonstrate his power is that his landlord's wife - who he owes thousands of dollars to and hates him - decides to gently caress him because he could remember a library book.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:41
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Floppychop posted:That's why superman is boring, "god level in every category" makes a lame character. Uh, Superman gets owned on a routine basis by a small alien starfish and loving Mr. Myxlplyx Dude has no Wis or Int scores at all lmao Also I always contend that Superman CAN be a fun and interesting character, but you A. Need an interesting antagonist B. A problem he can't solve by punching it C. Plot/ narrative that gets more complex than "Superman weak, but now he strong again!"  What is the Marvel equivalent of Superman tbh? Sentry?
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Apr 28, 2021 00:44
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Everyone posted:The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Pitch Meeting Pitch meetings is critique of pop culture right, versus cinema sins. They actually bring up interesting points, and very rarely do they say "stupid" poo poo. The only case here is they gloss over how Walker murders a dude in this show a tad too much, but in general yeah. They're good.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:44
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The best part of Limitless is that he expands his mind so much that he can take over the world, but the first thing the movie does to demonstrate his power is that his landlord's wife - who he owes thousands of dollars to and hates him - decides to gently caress him because he could remember a library book. Tbf people have hosed for far less than that.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:45
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TulliusCicero posted:Uh, Superman gets owned on a routine basis by a small alien starfish and loving Mr. Myxlplyx They have a few characters that fit the role broadly. The most direct is Hyperion, then Sentry. Thor and Cap are actually the closest to actually fulfilling the role Superman actually holds in the universe (Thor as 'guy in red cape who is the most powerful dude on super-team' and Cap as 'moral centre'). And then there's like, Gladiator who is an alien emperor with a mohawk that has Superman's powers and is basically unbeatable as long as he believes he is.
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Apr 28, 2021 00:50
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Doctor Nutt posted:Tbf people have hosed for far less than that. Don't need too much of an excuse to gently caress Bradley Cooper
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Apr 28, 2021 00:51
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Nameless Pete posted:Other people have no doubt mentioned this, but the Walker casting was low-level inspired. By getting Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn's kid,
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Apr 28, 2021 01:03
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I'm annoyed with how all it took was just a Sam speech and then everything was fixed. In the real world, politicians are doing what corporate interests want them to do, and no shaming on live video would change that. Also what the gently caress, maybe you should think twice before handing a recently pardoned expat with a grudge the keys to the CIA.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:34
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ymgve posted:I'm annoyed with how all it took was just a Sam speech and then everything was fixed. This is the most comics-accurate thing in the entire show. 75% of Captain America comics end that way.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:36
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Floppychop posted:That's why superman is boring, "god level in every category" makes a lame character. Superman owns
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Apr 28, 2021 01:46
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If you're seeing a story where Superman is a bad character, its because its a lovely Superman story. That same logic applies to every superman-like character btw, including John Cena. "Superman is too powerful to be a good character/tell good stories," is peak memetic thinking, its demonstrably false.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:49
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Yeah, Superman is only “boring” in the hands of a poo poo writer. Unfortunately that’s basically 90% of the creative teams ever assigned to Superman.
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Apr 28, 2021 01:50
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Sanguinia posted:If you're seeing a story where Superman is a bad character, its because its a lovely Superman story. Big Mean Jerk posted:Yeah, Superman is only “boring” in the hands of a poo poo writer. Unfortunately that’s basically 90% of the creative teams ever assigned to Superman. It's these
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Apr 28, 2021 01:59
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The low-key best part of Sam's speech, btw, was the part where the lady official tried to pull the 'but immigrants use our tax dollars' card and Sam doesn't even blink and just goes "yes, you should help them".
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Apr 28, 2021 02:15
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There's a situation right now where medical supplies are not being efficiently distributed due to regulatory and licensing restrictions. Forcible expropriation would be the heroic thing to do. The show should have ended with Karli taking the shield.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:22
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I just finished it. I liked it better than wandavision. Got to see captain america do a Charging Star. I’m glad John Walker didn’t end up getting murked. I like Wyatt Russel.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:25
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Has there ever been a time when US Agent worked for SHIELD? Because I would love to know if he was ever an Agent of SHIELD with an actual shield and if so, did his shield get repainted to have the SHIELD logo on it? Serious question that I didn't feel like Googling.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:25
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:B class, obviously. I was going to suggest "unless Saitama can punch magic" as a joke but I realized Popeye has done this Popeye would be on Wanda's tier
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Apr 28, 2021 02:36
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AndyElusive posted:Has there ever been a time when US Agent worked for SHIELD? His shield did get repainted, but not into Shield-ception. 
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Apr 28, 2021 02:41
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Yeah, Superman is only “boring” in the hands of a poo poo writer. Unfortunately that’s basically 90% of the creative teams ever assigned to Superman. The best Superman story I ever read was by Garth Ennis in Hitman #34. One of the cooler bits was what didn't happen. No fights, no misunderstandings. No Kryptonite so the guy whose powers are X-Ray Vision, Mind Reading and shooting people with regular guns can somehow deal with threats that Superman can't. It's just Hitman and Superman standing on a roof talking about guilt and, eventually, the immigrant experience.
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Apr 28, 2021 02:52
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AndyElusive posted:Has there ever been a time when US Agent worked for SHIELD? It's not used by US Agent, but a shield with the SHIELD logo shows up in Agents of SHIELD. 
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Apr 28, 2021 02:59
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TulliusCicero posted:
Not a comics guy, but I couldn't see how Carol Danvers was anything but an OP Superman character in Endgame. In my opinion, her showing up and just dunking on everything was kind of disappointing.
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Apr 28, 2021 03:13
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Everyone posted:The best Superman story I ever read was by Garth Ennis in Hitman #34. One of the cooler bits was what didn't happen. No fights, no misunderstandings. No Kryptonite so the guy whose powers are X-Ray Vision, Mind Reading and shooting people with regular guns can somehow deal with threats that Superman can't. It's just Hitman and Superman standing on a roof talking about guilt and, eventually, the immigrant experience. You’d think a lot more of the NYC based superheroes would be emotionally hosed up because 9/11 happened and there weren’t there or couldn’t stop it. There is some gritty, grim dark stories to be told there.
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Apr 28, 2021 03:18
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My favorite superman moment is from the old animated series, during a christmas episode, Bruce, Clark, Martha and Johnathan are all sitting around the table, and Martha says something like "oh yeah, we used to have to wrap Clark's presents in Lead." and Clark cuts in with "You mean Santa did." She replies, "Of course, Clark, Santa did."
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Apr 28, 2021 03:20
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TheTofuShop posted:My favorite superman moment is from the old animated series, during a christmas episode, Bruce, Clark, Martha and Johnathan are all sitting around the table, and Martha says something like "oh yeah, we used to have to wrap Clark's presents in Lead." and Clark cuts in with "You mean Santa did." She replies, "Of course, Clark, Santa did." I still think that the “How do you know that name?!” moment in Snyder’s Batman vs Superman would have been more poignant if that was the moment Bruce remembered who he was and why he is Batman. He goes to save Martha Kent using no lethal violence: concussions and broken wrists everywhere.
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Apr 28, 2021 03:30
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TheTofuShop posted:My favorite superman moment is from the old animated series, during a christmas episode, Bruce, Clark, Martha and Johnathan are all sitting around the table, and Martha says something like "oh yeah, we used to have to wrap Clark's presents in Lead." and Clark cuts in with "You mean Santa did." She replies, "Of course, Clark, Santa did." One of my favorite Superman stories was I believe a Justice League (seriously the entire old DCAU is loving fantastic stuff) episode called Hereafter, where Toyman thought he disintegrated, but actually threw Superman 30,000 years into the future. The League have a funeral where even Lex shows up and genuinely pays his respects, and Bruce goes into complete denial but admits Clark was like his only real best friend. Meanwhile Superman wakes up in a distant future where Vandal Savage successfully killed the rest of the Justice League, but accidently all of humanity besides him as well, and now he's just a bored, depressed, lonely man. Superman almost kills him out of rage at first, but Clark instead sees how Savage has changed and hears him out, befriends him, and lets him explain he wants to atone. Savage helps him get back to his own time and Superman undoes past Savage's plan, saving the future but erasing that future version of a guilt ridden Savage from existence, which he thanks Clark for as "his friend" The best Superman (and honestly Batman) stories are the ones that remind you beyond the capes and the powers they are just people. It's really cool when writers acknowledge one of Clark's strongest abilities is his bond with others and his influence on them, and his heart 
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Apr 28, 2021 03:54
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TheTofuShop posted:My favorite superman moment is from the old animated series, during a christmas episode, Bruce, Clark, Martha and Johnathan are all sitting around the table, and Martha says something like "oh yeah, we used to have to wrap Clark's presents in Lead." and Clark cuts in with "You mean Santa did." She replies, "Of course, Clark, Santa did." Later on in that episode it's night and everyone's asleep except Clark who is looking at presents and gumbles "Lead again."
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Apr 28, 2021 04:04
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mind the walrus posted:It's almost like they're setting up a confrontation in Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness so we learn more about their relative power scales. I really hope the Chris Evans doing another MCU project rumors are actually him returning as Johnny Storm in Multiverse of Madness.
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Apr 28, 2021 04:05
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Ironheart has a writer: Chinaka Hodge.
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Apr 28, 2021 04:34
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Some of my favorite Superman stories are Alan Moore's run on Supreme where he takes a pretty dull Supes clone, destroys everything from the title, and turns it into an homage to Golden and Silver Age comics. I really need Lance and Bobbi from Agents of SHIELD to come back—they were robbed from their spinoff show. Also, Enoch is the best and deserves all the screentime.
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Apr 28, 2021 04:44
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TulliusCicero posted:What is the Marvel equivalent of Superman tbh? Sentry? Kind of? He has a wicked downside with the Void.
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https://twitter.com/Veggiefact/status/1372666183204413445
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Apr 28, 2021 05:35
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Jet Jaguar posted:I really need Lance and Bobbi from Agents of SHIELD to come back—they were robbed from their spinoff show. Also, Enoch is the best and deserves all the screentime. Agreed
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Ravel posted:Limitless was basically a movie about a person with superhuman intelligence, which in practice ends up being photographic memory. More and more we're coming to the conclusion that intelligence is synthesis and integration -- we've been outsourcing memory to computers for decades now and books for centuries before that. But having a "smart" character make a logical leap that the audience can't or won't make (even if it's the correct one!) is somehow unrealistic. Breaks verisimilitude. Ahh, the joy of trying to convey a thing that really is tough to conceptualize if you aren't used to seeing it happen or doing it yourself. The funny part is that you still take all the steps: the logic works, but since the person doing the work is moving a bit quickly to get to the conclusion, some steps might get left out of the explanation with the assumption that everyone else there is just as capable of working through them and can figure it out, too. This is one of the reasons I always liked Thrawn's portrayal in those early Star Wars books. His stated reason for being able to make such accurate leaps was that he could study a culture's art and divine things others couldn't -- that's the suspension of disbelief key that lets you, the reader, buy that sometimes people see and put together things others don't...and more crucially, because it's ART, that you, the reader, probably wouldn't see it anyway. You're not dumb for not having gotten it. I hate having to take that into account but, hey, you work with what you got.
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