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Zesty posted:I like to get mad at players for betting wrong in FJ. It brings me a lot of entertainment. I don't know if I like it it's more confusion over how you could be enough of a fan of a show you try out and audition and get on and not know extremely basic aspects of the game. Like I said "bet zero when you're in last when first and second are close" is something I've known since grade school.
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also the pressure is IMMENSE when you're up there under the lights. I can't do math well in my living room... it definitely didn't get any easier there. I spent 100% of my time preparing for categories i knew I was weak in. I don't think I'm that abnormal.
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Apr 24, 2021 22:18
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I don't ever pay attention to the bids at all, that's not why I watch the show. 
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mennoknight posted:also the pressure is IMMENSE when you're up there under the lights. I can't do math well in my living room... it definitely didn't get any easier there. I spent 100% of my time preparing for categories i knew I was weak in. I don't think I'm that abnormal. This right here.
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packetmantis posted:I don't ever pay attention to the bids at all, that's not why I watch the show. Yes, I'm sure this is what leads people to bet it all in third place with 5k when first and second are at 15.2 and 15.6. Zesty fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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Zesty posted:Yes, I'm sure this is what leads people to bet it all in third place with 5k when first and second are at 15.2 and 15.6. Jason z’s streak would have been 12 if either player on stage with him in game 13 had spent 20 seconds studying wagering https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6417
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I’m sure someone who’s been on the show has answered this before, but how much time and assistance do you actually get off-camera for the final wager?
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Apr 25, 2021 17:09
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no assistance, but literally as much time as you want. they do give you a sharpie and paper too if I remember correctly.
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haveblue posted:I’m sure someone who’s been on the show has answered this before, but how much time and assistance do you actually get off-camera for the final wager? Zero assistance. You get a single sheet of paper about the size of an index card, and a sharpie. Although if you needed more paper they'd probably give it to you, I guess. As for time, there's the whole commercial break which can go on for like >5 minutes sometimes, so it's a decent amount of time. In my second game, because there was an issue with determining if a certain answer was right or wrong, it was actually more like 20 minutes. From what I've heard there is no real hard limit but if the commercial break is over and you still haven't figured out what you're going to bet, apparently the contestant co-ordinators can come and give you a hand, although I imagine there's rules about them not being able to do the math for you (this never happened in any of the games I was at so I don't know). I will say, as someone who not only studied wagering but also practiced it before going on (I spent probably about 3-5 hours on it in total?), it is ENORMOUSLY DIFFICULT when you're actually there. My first game, the right bet was $0. I bet everything, mainly because I went "well, I've sat on my couch and shouted "I bet everything!" at this category a few times in my life, so it's time to put up or shut up" and I'm $10k richer because of it. My second game was the one with a complicated bet. I was in third place going into final, and I wanted to bet enough to get past second place if she got it wrong, but enough past second place that I could also get past first place if he also got it wrong. I practiced this exact scenario at home in the weeks leading to tape day, including doing the math with a pen and paper on the desk. I still hosed it up completely about three times (to the point where the first time I did it my answer was "you have to bet $32,000" or something like that, like really hosed it up) and then finally ended up with an answer that looked about right. I still added a few hundred to that figure just in case. It didn't end up mattering, but yeah, it makes a huge difference when you're under pressure under the lights, and I can completely understand how even someone who did a little bit of wager studying could gently caress it up in the moment.
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HookShot posted:Zero assistance. You get a single sheet of paper about the size of an index card, and a sharpie. Although if you needed more paper they'd probably give it to you, I guess. This. There was a point in time when former College Championship winner and ToC participant Keith Williams would break down and analyze the Final Jeopardy wagers on his website and YouTube series called appropriately enough, The Final Wager, but he stopped doing so a couple years after my episode. I think his last one posted on YouTube was the ToC Austin Rogers was involved in. My own wager was fairly straightforward, and Keith’s analysis vindicated my choice, but we did all get it wrong and I was in third place less than half of the leader anyway, so I pretty much had to bet it all. You get all the time you need (within reason) for figuring out your Final Wager, and yes, you get a sheet of paper and a sharpie to work out scenarios and to also serve as your backup in case something goes wrong with the podium. This time is apparently lengthened during Tournament scenarios, given the anecdote shared by ToC participant Kristin Hamlin Sausville where she said she was taking so long to figure her Final Jeopardy wager because she was accounting for every scenario she could think of in the Championship match that Trebek actually walked up to her podium and commented if she “wasn’t too good with math, was she?” to her, in what some of us call an “Uncle Alex” moment, where he could sometimes say some really insensitive things off camera. GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Apr 25, 2021 |
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Trebek was weird to a woman? Say it ain’t so. "So far, our battle of the decades, 1990s, has turned into a battle of the sexes! This week, three matches, three women have moved on. Is that good news for Claudia or does it put extra pressure on her? Mark and Dave might want to put extra pressure on her." ”Women contestants, when it comes to a Daily Double, seem to want to wager [less] because they figure, ‘Oh, this is the household money, this is the grocery money, the rent money.’ Guys say, ‘Wait a minute, I’m playing with the house money. I’m not taking any money home unless I win the game, so I can go whole hog on this wager.’” (during a contestant interview with a retired USMC Master Sergeant) “That must be really tough for a woman because a master sergeant is giving orders most of the time.”
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Apr 25, 2021 22:58
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He also had a habit of calling any female contestant "young lady." Oh Alex...
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Apr 25, 2021 23:04
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That made me think of this great moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8cMb1YTw-8
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Apr 25, 2021 23:34
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Ugh. That was hilarious until the last line.
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Apr 25, 2021 23:56
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Zesty posted:Ugh. That was hilarious until the last line. Trebek had some pretty odd and occasionally yikes-worthy takes on social issues. Don't forget what he said about #MeToo: quote:“You know, when the #MeToo movement started, I had discussions with the staff during production meetings,” he said. “I said, ‘My gosh, this has got to be a scary time for men.'”
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Apr 26, 2021 00:06
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lmao at that middle school level comeback though "you took a turn"
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My second game, the woman at the middle podium who I'm now friends with and is awesome, is from Nebraska. Alex came up to her for her interview and started talking to her in like a FULL-ON hillbilly accent being like "Ah'm fram Nebraska where dem folks we just farmin' an' stuff", and she was like "uhhh omg how am I supposed to reply to this??" I think they cut most of it out in editing.
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see to me, that sounds rad
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Yeah he struck me as that type who wants to be a good person and meant well but just wasn't quite keeping up with things as they evolved.
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mennoknight posted:see to me, that sounds rad Like, I'm sure he didn't mean to be insulting or anything by it, but it was 100% "this is not an appropriate way to imitate a stranger's origins in TYOOL 2018" and it was enormously cringe-worthy. BaronVonVaderham posted:Yeah he struck me as that type who wants to be a good person and meant well but just wasn't quite keeping up with things as they evolved.
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They shouldn't have accepted "gypsies". JFC.
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They all looked like they thought of it immediately and none of them wanted to ring in and say it out loud.
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Apr 27, 2021 16:48
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I am really enjoying David Koechner's winning streak this week.
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Zesty posted:They shouldn't have accepted "gypsies". JFC. yeah, i mean, they had to when they wrote the clue, they just... shouldn't have written the clue. reminds me of that israel/palestine one from a couple years ago they tried to cut and forgot
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also "female authors and some male ones too" is an all time hall of famer category name. what the hell lmao
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Apr 27, 2021 17:17
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Also weren’t three of those clues about male authors?
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What was the sign that the incumbent (Kelly) flashed during his intro? It looked almost like a white power sign, but flat instead of held up.
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Spokes posted:yeah, i mean, they had to when they wrote the clue, they just... shouldn't have written the clue Why? Like, if the answer was "Who are Jews?" then they wouldn't get rid of the question, they'd probably simply view it as wrong and offensive if you said "Who are 'k***s'?" or something like that. Roma or Romany people would have been acceptable answers, and it's not like it's particularly obscure to know that by Jeopardy standards. It's not really a case where it's "political" as such, it's the difference between a word widely recognized as a slur, and the way the group identifies itself. I think you could run into the same issue with E***** vs. Inuk or something, albeit that's a bit more contested in some areas.
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PT6A posted:It's not really a case where it's "political" as such, it's the difference between a word widely recognized as a slur, and the way the group identifies itself. Right, but I’d say it’s not “widely recognized as a slur” at this point, unfortunately
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There's something like a million Romani-Americans in the US, most of whom have largely assimilated. Americans are barely aware of them as an ethnicity let alone that there's a preferred nomenclature.
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While it's understandable that they should primarily known as Romani, the term Gypsy is likely the term most familiar to people especially with several TV shows using it relatively recently. TLC didn't have a show called My Big Fat American Romani Wedding. Besides, a unanswered clue last week had the answer Myanmar and Mr. Newsman called it Burma first before saying its name.
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Island Nation posted:While it's understandable that they should primarily known as Romani, the term Gypsy is likely the term most familiar to people especially with several TV shows using it relatively recently. TLC didn't have a show called My Big Fat American Romani Wedding.
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TBH while the clue should probably not have been included on the basis that "g*psy" was likely going to be answered by contestants, I think having somebody doing a white power symbol in his intro and letting that air is much loving worse.
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Considering he flashed one and two fingers after his first and second wins he might just be trying to signal that he’s won three times and it just looks really bad E: nope never mind, the fan account that pointed this out seems to think now that those were just for deniability https://twitter.com/_thejeopardyfan/status/1387244555083337730?s=21
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It was one hundred percent for deniability
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Good loving riddance
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Why did second place give himself a chance to get into third place when third could not catch him in final? Not caring about throwing away $1,000 must be nice.
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Zesty posted:Why did second place give himself a chance to get into third place when third could not catch him in final? Not caring about throwing away $1,000 must be nice. As someone who had to consider exactly this scenario: "gently caress it, I'm here to win as much money as possible, not think about how much I might lose with." (I haven't watched tonight's episode yet, so it's possible I've missed something, but if it's like my situation was, where I was in second place and bet everything and would have lost to third place who was significantly behind me, that was the reasoning)
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