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Harrow posted:Yeah Tanzer sucks Emilia’s story called. It’s the Trinity Base.
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Still on my first playthrough and I'm remembering how brutal it can be to get new party members. I'm also trying to start the arcane quest and the swamp is all Kraken so I don't think I'll be getting that card
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Apr 28, 2021 10:58
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WebDO posted:Still on my first playthrough and I'm remembering how brutal it can be to get new party members. Get some petrify on your monster! Krakens are vulnerable to getting stoned. (Also if you put anti-water gear on your team, the Krakens are completely harmless.) Edit: My own status: Still hacking away at Asellus' scenario. We're all waiting for the very last weirdo pursuing us to actually do something. Also hello Ildon, you took your time, didn't you? The rune quest started and I immediately managed to walz into the wrong dungeon. Though now I have a skeleton knight on my side. Good god this game. 
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Apr 28, 2021 11:02
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WebDO posted:Still on my first playthrough and I'm remembering how brutal it can be to get new party members. If you have the money to get some Pearl Hearts, you can become immune to water damage, which can help at least a little bit with Krakens. That's definitely a card to get early if at all possible, though. Libluini posted:The rune quest started and I immediately managed to walz into the wrong dungeon. Though now I have a skeleton knight on my side. Good god this game. Yeah he's pretty rad. If you ask him to give you something, he also gives you an extremely good sword, so that's worth doing on a different playthrough. Also he has an actual story role in one of Fuse's scenarios that is extremely . It's a lot of fun to see Fuse sitting around a conference table with a weird back alley doctor and a giant skeleton king just chatting like it's totally normal.
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Apr 28, 2021 14:20
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WebDO posted:Still on my first playthrough and I'm remembering how brutal it can be to get new party members. If you've already recruited Asellus and her entourage, White Rose and Zozma are immune to the Charm, Confusion, Berserk and Sleep effects from the Drunk debuff. Silence is as well if you recruited him. Give them Pearl Hearts to make them immune to water attacks and have them absorb some monsters with instant death or petrifying attacks into their Mystic gear and they can carry you through.
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Apr 28, 2021 14:39
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Time Lord boss fight? Does BR affect bosses?
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Apr 28, 2021 14:55
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Time Lord boss fight? Battle rank affects boss HP, but I think that's all it changes. The types of attacks and amount of damage bosses do is static, but their HP goes up with your BR.
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Apr 28, 2021 14:59
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Harrow posted:If you have the money to get some Pearl Hearts, you can become immune to water damage, which can help at least a little bit with Krakens. He joins automatically in Riki's scenario! He even gets a cool Tomomi Kobayashi art screen afterward.
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Apr 28, 2021 15:31
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My turn to ask a question: To do the Time and Space quests, you need to have done at least one of Light or Shadow and at least one of Rune or Arcane. My question is, does the Light/Shadow one count if it's your party members doing the quest offscreen, or does your protagonist have to have done one of them? In my Asellus playthrough, I'd love to get Shadow Servant for both Asellus and Time Lord, but if I have to have Asellus get one of the gifts before I can even recruit Time Lord, that's clearly not going to be possible. MonsieurChoc posted:He joins automatically in Riki's scenario! He even gets a cool Tomomi Kobayashi art screen afterward. Yeah, that too. The Fuse scenario I'm talking about is the Riki one, even. He's part of the core team there--it's Fuse, Nusakan, and Sei just running around solving everything before Riki and Mei-ling even arrive 
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Apr 28, 2021 16:06
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Libluini posted:Get some petrify on your monster! Krakens are vulnerable to getting stoned. (Also if you put anti-water gear on your team, the Krakens are completely harmless.) Giants are vulnerable to petrify too. I farmed the one in Lute's scenario a couple of times because I couldn't remember what all it dropped. Got 2 Genbu shields and an Obsidian sword (64 atk sword) from 3 kills in maybe 5 minutes. A bunch of top/special rank enemies are weak to 1 or more status effects which is always nice. The best is using Giant Swing on enemies vulnerable to instant death because you just toss them right out of the battle and in to low orbit.
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Apr 28, 2021 16:10
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Harrow posted:My turn to ask a question: This should count, though I admittedly haven't tried it. You should be able to buy one of the shadow magics for Asellus and then send the rest of the party in to meet the requirement. Afterall, in T260G's quest, you can recruit Kylin, and she can't get the gift for any magic- it just looks that you have party members who you sent there (I sent Gen in for light to get solar blade and then did the rune magic quest).
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Apr 28, 2021 16:59
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with the gift stuff and spreading them around, does "all party members that were present for the entire quest" mean specifically the group that the main character is in, or are all currently recruited people taken into account?
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Apr 28, 2021 17:09
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Cowcaster posted:with the gift stuff and spreading them around, does "all party members that were present for the entire quest" mean specifically the group that the main character is in, or are all currently recruited people taken into account? All recruited characters count.
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Apr 28, 2021 17:10
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Harrow posted:If you have the money to get some Pearl Hearts, you can become immune to water damage, which can help at least a little bit with Krakens. One thing I like about Fuse that I didn't expect to is that he has Jackie Chan Hong Kong detective movie energy in spades, complete with the slapstick/embarrassing moments hitting the same beat.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:01
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I think I screwed myself out of the Arcana dungeons as Riki by starting the Rune quest first to get into Mu's Tomb. Now I'm locked out of Wakatu and the Shield quest treasure, which means no Octopus Board and Braveheart for T260  This was also the first scenario where I could've gotten the Comet Blade
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Apr 28, 2021 18:43
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drat you weren't kidding about Vergil's dungeon being a dick move.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:49
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Riki's scenario is a wild ride. Most of it is a nice, fun time. You get to run around and hang out with Dr. Nusakan and Sei, there are some cool story events, you get these fun rings to play with, it's pretty okay! And then you hit Virgil's dungeon and the scenario jumps into the air and does several beautiful, dramatic twists and flips before gracefully landing face-first in a pit of spikes.
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Apr 28, 2021 18:53
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Ace Transmuter posted:I think I screwed myself out of the Arcana dungeons as Riki by starting the Rune quest first to get into Mu's Tomb. Now I'm locked out of Wakatu and the Shield quest treasure, which means no Octopus Board and Braveheart for T260 Finish the Rune quest line and you can rune Arcane afterwards. You can only do one at a time but you can do both questlines in a single character story. Just starting the Rune Quest doesn't lock you in to it though. You have to trigger something (like getting a Rune). It's 100% possible to start Rune + Arcane quests then grab Gen, Roufas, and other characters that don't require collecting a card/rune in the process (so no Fei-on or Fuse unless you want locked into that quest first). Harrow posted:Riki's scenario is a wild ride. Most of it is a nice, fun time. You get to run around and hang out with Dr. Nusakan and Sei, there are some cool story events, you get these fun rings to play with, it's pretty okay! And then you hit Virgil's dungeon and the scenario jumps into the air and does several beautiful, dramatic twists and flips before gracefully landing face-first in a pit of spikes. I'd forgotten about the spike room until my recent Riki run and I'd forgotten how annoying it was without save state or rewind via an emulator. I swear I spent an hour in that room because of how finicky the spikes are for the route.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:01
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'd forgotten about the spike room until my recent Riki run and I'd forgotten how annoying it was without save state or rewind via an emulator. I swear I spent an hour in that room because of how finicky the spikes are for the route. It's so bad!! And then I want right from that room straight into the magma slimes fight, and let me tell you, if you don't already know what the deal is with the magma slimes (apparently I had never finished Riki's scenario before last week!), it is just one horrifying reveal after another as that fight unfolds. The overwhelming feeling I had in Virgil's palace was confusion and also anger that someone had done this to me, as though it had been targeted towards me and was motivated entirely by spite. Not even remotely rational but drat if that wasn't a strong and unique game feeling.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:10
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My "favorite" part is the game show room because every time, without fail, I misread the directions, get really confused about why the game keeps saying I'm wrong (I'm not! I'm not!!!), then resigning myself to just fighting my way through it. Magma slimes have always been a Roof of Riovannes Castle thing for me: I either have what I need to win it effortlessly, or I don't and it's the hardest thing in the game this time
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Apr 28, 2021 19:14
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It really didn't help that I hit all the worst rooms right in a row. I went straight from the spike room into the magma slimes and then straight from that into the game show (where I, of course, hosed up and got questions wrong enough times to absolutely hate everything).
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Apr 28, 2021 19:20
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Evil Fluffy posted:Finish the Rune quest line and you can rune Arcane afterwards. You can only do one at a time but you can do both questlines in a single character Riki can't finish the Rune Quest; his story takes him to Tanzer and he can't go back to get the Vitality Rune. His plot also takes him to Despair, which is the only time he can pick up the Freedom Rune. Luckily I found the failsafe; if you talk to the podium dude closest to the Rune tent in Devin he'll cancel the quest for you if you're locked out of getting the Freedom Rune. So now I'm able to get to Wakatu. Yay! I've heard this doesn't work if you do get the Freedom Rune, though.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:25
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That is absolutely the true Riki scenario experience. I only beat that scenario much later after how to get Mariche was common knowledge, and it was still a thoroughly unpleasant experience. I'm very tempted just to load up my NG+ crew and just chew through everything with Spray of Life Gen and fully kitted T260G.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:26
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My gen still doesn't have Spray of Life on NG+++ lol. He still hits like a space truck though.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:41
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Harrow posted:All recruited characters count. cool. and i don't know enough about the game to custom tailor who gets what but it sounds like if i buy at least one spell for people from the opposing school of the gift quest i can freeze them out from getting flagged for starting a gift quest for the opposite school?
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Apr 28, 2021 19:43
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Cowcaster posted:cool. and i don't know enough about the game to custom tailor who gets what but it sounds like if i buy at least one spell for people from the opposing school of the gift quest i can freeze them out from getting flagged for starting a gift quest for the opposite school? Yep, that's how it works. So, for example, if someone has a Shadow spell and you go to do the Light magic gift quest, anyone with Shadow magic just sits it out, and you can go get the Shadow gift for them later. Same for Rune and Arcane: if you're on the Rune quest, anyone who has an Arcane spell won't get the gift even if they're there for the whole quest, and vice-versa.
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Apr 28, 2021 19:46
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My Fuse has everything he needs for the DSC except *Slide,* which he absolutely refuses to learn across two playthroughs. Is this the true SaGa experience?
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Apr 28, 2021 21:13
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He didn't learn Slide for me until I had him spamming Kick on Chimeras in the Bio Lab Took his sweet time
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Apr 28, 2021 21:16
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If a character doesn’t have the talent for a particular move they have less than a 1% chance to spark it. Nobody in the game has the talent for every move in the DSC. So, yes!
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Apr 28, 2021 21:23
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Technically Emilia does by using the costume mechanic.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:31
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MonsieurChoc posted:My gen still doesn't have Spray of Life on NG+++ lol. Did you just never give him a katana and learn shadow reversal? Gen normally learns sword techs super fast and if you're fighting high BR enemies like dullahans and krakens he should spark life sprinkler via shadow reversal super fast. VgameT posted:If a character doesn’t have the talent for a particular move they have less than a 1% chance to spark it. Nobody in the game has the talent for every move in the DSC. So, yes! A character's intelligence affects their chance to spark moves too and I think that applies to non-talented skills like lifesprinkler for Asellus or the various DSC moves.
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Apr 28, 2021 21:58
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Evil Fluffy posted:Did you just never give him a katana and learn shadow reversal? Gen normally learns sword techs super fast and if you're fighting high BR enemies like dullahans and krakens he should spark life sprinkler via shadow reversal super fast. All I do is spam Shadow Reversal.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:09
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MonsieurChoc posted:All I do is spam Shadow Reversal. Unless you don't have an open spot in your skill list I have no idea. Using that on high BR enemies should spark it really fast.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:14
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I've gotten Spray of Life on at least one character in every playthrough so far and it has, without fail, been from using either Shadow Reversal or (for Captain Hamilton) Turbid Current on a BR9 enemy in the Bio Research Lab. Either the mystic guys in that round side room (forgot the name, the enemy type starts with a Z) or from a Chimera. I've never glimmered it on anything lower than that, and it usually happens relatively quickly when my BR reaches that level. That said I'm going to try to glimmer it with Blue in my next playthrough so wish me luck.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:20
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Evil Fluffy posted:A character's intelligence affects their chance to spark moves too and I think that applies to non-talented skills like lifesprinkler for Asellus or the various DSC moves. Was this changed in Remaster? As far as I know, the only things that affect your chance to spark a move are the monster you’re fighting, whether or not you have talent for it, and whether or not you have physical mastery.
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Apr 28, 2021 22:28
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VgameT posted:Was this changed in Remaster? As far as I know, the only things that affect your chance to spark a move are the monster you’re fighting, whether or not you have talent for it, and whether or not you have physical mastery. Yeah I've never heard of Intelligence impacting sparking chances before. Maybe for Gun/Magic? I've still never heard of it before
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Apr 28, 2021 23:26
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Ace Transmuter posted:Yeah I've never heard of Intelligence impacting sparking chances before. Maybe for Gun/Magic? I've still never heard of it before The sparking guide in essence of saga says int helps with gun, magic, and mec program learning, but not sword/martial. I would assume it's the same for the remaster.
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Apr 28, 2021 23:44
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There's a great mechanics guide on GameFAQs and it confirms all of this. INT helps with guns and magic, but not physical. There's no equivalent stat that helps spark physical moves. Though it's worth nothing that having the proper mastery does double your chance of sparking.
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It's just a bad rng, it happens.
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Be sure to learn Slide from Kick first before any of the throws. It's a terrible move on its own, so if you get too strong before you learn it the game will tend to teach you "better" moves instead. Pneub fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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