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Doctor Jeep posted:imagine how those three guys he named must feel right now Li Keqiang rules I don't think he's gonna give a gently caress if someone writes him opposed to Xi He kinda wrote himself into that last year.
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May 1, 2021 06:42
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animist posted:america's main propaganda tool is examining its own worst features and then slapping a big label on it them that says "THE OTHER GUYS" i wonder how many of them realize that many of the rhetoric and policies of the nazis have their origins from america
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May 1, 2021 06:43
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the nazi empire didn't die, it just transformed into the cia
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May 1, 2021 06:47
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BrainDance posted:Li Keqiang rules I don't think he's gonna give a gently caress if someone writes him opposed to Xi That's why the other guy mentioned in that stupid book, Wang qishan shouted him down last year.
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May 1, 2021 09:12
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There is a clan of jews stayed in China since Song dynasty and have completely sinicized. The place they lived was Kaifeng was given the Chinese surname of Zhao. I was really surprised to read former premier Zhao ziyang waa from the Kaifeng Jews lineage. I think he mentioned it in one of foreign diplomatic visits. He was the one who gambled on the losing fraction in 89 and Deng put him in home arrested for the remaining of his life. Edit, yeah just google "Zhao ziyang jews" and you will find the quote. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 09:35 on May 1, 2021 |
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May 1, 2021 09:29
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ToxicAcne posted:Yeah I was pretty shocked at reading the Jacobin article until I realized that they had an interview with right wing dissidents in Nicaragua as well. I don't know if these are gaffes or something more nefarious. https://twitter.com/UrOrientalist/status/1252969465760923650 https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/1174533573585432577 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/opinion/socialists-biden-trump.html https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1253737158764044289 https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1288878509679677440 https://twitter.com/JoshuaYJackson/status/1298034493253656583 https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1340436795117465600
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May 1, 2021 10:17
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Homeless Friend posted:this is a thriving genre of books in amerikkka lmao, but noooo the chinese have a child-like sense of bigotry, those inscrutable asiatics these drab imitations are an insult to our 2000 years of history [/quote] This even showed up in imperial Japan while notionally co-combatants with the Nazis; there were a number of diplomats who wrote visas, some out of being genuine humanist libs who hoped they were changing things from the inside, many accepted holdovers because there was never a fascist takeover (the attempt was purged nearly as hard as the local Communists were) just liberal authorities justifying more and more militarism, but also a good-sized contingent that had read the Protocols as ordered by their commander or senior diplomat, firmly believed the official line of Jews as extraordinary controllers of world trade and media, and decided independently that meant they'd be the perfect immigrants. The preferred colony was in Manchuria, the new frontier where new ex nihilo bourgeoisie would be welcome friends in exploiting the Chinese instead of rivals, and where Jewish emigres would also be useful as likely to be politically White Russians, so between that and Israel absorbing most of the refugees, rabbi chaplains at Yokosuka are a notable portion of modern Jews in Japan.
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May 1, 2021 10:36
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That's so cool
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May 1, 2021 11:04
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https://jacobinmag.com/2021/04/independence-war-bangladesh-pakistan-india This article is suss as well. It takes a both sides kind of look at the Bangladesh liberation war, and has that bullshit self Orientalism that South Asian American writers are prone too. Insaniyat literally just means humanity in Urdu/Hindi. It's not some mystical concept. And everyone in the Pakistani left agrees that 1971 was the Pakistani military's fault first and foremost.
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May 1, 2021 12:59
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nanjing has a memorial for an actual nazi, the chinese are freaking cancelled
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May 1, 2021 14:05
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:nanjing has a memorial for an actual nazi, the chinese are freaking cancelled lol
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May 1, 2021 14:07
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comedyblissoption posted:jacobin posts some bangers lmfao. jacobin has repeatedly called on us to arm non-state actors to facilitate coups of socialist countries... but worse still it cast aspersions on jimmy dore!!
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May 1, 2021 15:05
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https://twitter.com/teddyboylocsin/status/1388465421360058369?s=19
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May 1, 2021 15:12
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Jacobin started off with potential, but uh, I guess its an op? But I don't know who by/for.
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May 1, 2021 15:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC0Om8v8H7g
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May 1, 2021 15:17
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teddy locsin junior... thank you
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May 1, 2021 15:28
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Southpaugh posted:Jacobin started off with potential, but uh, I guess its an op? But I don't know who by/for. Yeah I swear it was much better a few years ago. They had a good series of articles on the centennial of the Russian Revolution a few years ago. I think the Bernie campaign brought alot of Social Democratic contributors on board like Matt Bruenig. They have articles upon articles on how Scandinavian Social Democracy is the best poo poo ever.
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May 1, 2021 15:42
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pretty sure jacobin's take on the russian revolution was basically trotsky's from the beginning
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May 1, 2021 15:46
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I've read that China Mieville book so Im somewhat familiar with that version but surely it's better than some bullshit about how Social Democracy is the best we got. Edit: What would be some good counter versions to that narrative?
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May 1, 2021 15:48
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tbh this one legitimately loving sucks I mean, yeah, US reports on China in general are absolute garbage, as has been proven on this page alone, and I will very much take this report with a grain of salt, but either way, I don't think it's unfair to say that the CCP needs to do better towards everyone who isn't a cishet man
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May 1, 2021 16:20
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The American left intelligentsia being a bunch of trots will always be funny to me. Like, I don't blame the folks in the 30s/40s for backpedaling after the purges but come on jack it's the 21st century now. That being said, Trotskys house in Mexico City is a must visit, incredible city too.
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May 1, 2021 16:22
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i drove down to san miguel de allende a few years ago and there's a bunch of kahlo and trotsky stuff, it's neat
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May 1, 2021 17:27
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Venomous posted:tbh this one legitimately loving sucks Sure, and this Leta Hong Fincher seems much better than the usual China "expert". She actually speaks chinese and has a PhD in sociology from Tsinghua University. But just skimming her article raises a bunch of red flags. quote:In 1990, 73 percent of Chinese women 15 and older were in the workforce; by 2019, that figure had plunged to below 61 percent, according to the World Bank. The numbers for the US are 56 and 57 percent (down from 59 percent in 2000). quote:The eugenic undertones of China’s population-planning objectives are unmistakable. Even as officials urge Han women to marry and get pregnant in order to “upgrade population quality,” (one of the goals outlined in China’s latest five-year plan) they are carrying out a campaign to slash births among Uyghur and other Turkic women in Xinjiang. Scholars, such as Adrian Zenz, and independent reporters have documented mass violations of Uyghur women’s reproductive rights, including forced sterilizations, abortions and forced insertion of intrauterine devices (IUDs). The United States and allies, including the U.K. and the European Union, have announced sanctions on several Chinese officials linked to what they have termed a genocide against Uyghurs. Did she mention eugenics by accident? Did she just happen consider Adrian Zenz the best in his field? The fact that ethnic minorities were exempt from the one child policy seems to be a bit at odds with these "eugenic undertones". But sure, we're talking about the present day and rhetoric about population quality is certainly cause for concern. Now, I didn't spend more than five minutes looking but I couldn't find the term “upgrade population quality” in the two latest five-year plans. I did find that term in some older CCP family planning policy document. I can't help but wonder if that quote wan't lifted from the english translation of the document I saw. quote:stabilize the low fertility level, upgrade population quality in terms of health and education quote:get pregnant in order to “upgrade population quality" Like I said, I spend five minutes checking it. But any mention of Zenz is a bad sign.
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May 2, 2021 01:11
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all these people are part of the same “China watcher” professional shitposter clique that get quoted ad nauseom in the economist and other garbage.
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May 2, 2021 02:03
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Yaqiu/status/1388496738424705025
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May 2, 2021 02:11
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https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbhturnbull/status/1388326823130329097
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May 2, 2021 02:17
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ToxicAcne posted:They have articles upon articles on how Scandinavian Social Democracy is the best poo poo ever. 
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May 2, 2021 03:48
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lol drat
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May 2, 2021 03:52
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Has anyone said jakkkobin yet
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May 2, 2021 04:05
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The Yakubin
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May 2, 2021 04:19
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https://twitter.com/catcontentonly/status/1388688864554979330?s=20
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May 2, 2021 04:20
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There's always this idea that, in a country that the US is trying to topple, there's a significant part of the population that's just waiting to overthrow their own government. You'd have to invent one if one didn't exist just to rationalize interventionism. Now, you can probably make a reasonable argument that such an element does exist in Syria or in Iran, where there's a real dissatisfied segment separate-and-apart from what the CIA is funding and backing. But when it comes to China, there's hardly any such level of dissent/discontent, so instead they have to resort to tropes like "they're brainwashed by CCP propaganda" or that "they can't come to a realization about their political future because censorship is so strict", or even that "there really are a lot of pro-democracy Chinese on the mainland, we just can't see them because all their posts are getting removed by The Great Firewall"
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May 2, 2021 04:39
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Bro Dad posted:The Yakubin
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May 2, 2021 04:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:There's always this idea that, in a country that the US is trying to topple, there's a significant part of the population that's just waiting to overthrow their own government. You'd have to invent one if one didn't exist just to rationalize interventionism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinese_pro-democracy_protests
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May 2, 2021 04:51
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the real reason january sixth offends liberals so much is because it implies dissidents in this united states could do the same thing if any foreigners could be bothered to fund them that the american government was not in fact at risk of being toppled and the media was just hallucinating lsd demons from its own antitrump farts has as usual been completely forgotten
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May 2, 2021 04:53
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gradenko_2000 posted:Now, you can probably make a reasonable argument that such an element does exist in Syria or in Iran, where there's a real dissatisfied segment separate-and-apart from what the CIA is funding and backing. quote:In order to facilitate resistance against China's involvement in Korea, the CIA invested over $100 million in buying weapons that would be used by "third force" guerillas in China. The Agency scarcely could find any anti-Mao sentiment within their contacts quote:According to the documents, the CIA began dropping small guerilla units into China, the first Third Force team having been deployed in April, 1952. All four members of the team were never heard from again. The second Third Force team was made up of five ethnic Chinese agents, and dropped into the Jilin region of Manchuria in mid-July 1952. The team eventually reported contact with local rebel leaders. The team was, unbeknownst to the CIA, captured and turned by the Chinese, setting up the ensuing trap. The CIA responded by sending in a rescue unit, only to have its planes shot down and its principal agents assigned to the mission, Jack Downey and Dick Fecteau, arrested. Both men were subsequently sentenced to prison sentences in China. Beijing later boasted of the insurgency failures of their United States counterparts. At that point, the CIA had dropped 212 agents into China, resulting in 101 agents killed and 111 captured.[[6][7][8] Michael D. Coe, who had been recruited by the CIA and worked within the agency during the Third Force events, stated that the CIA "had been sold a bill of goods by the Nationalists - that there was a huge force of resistance inside of China. We were barking up the wrong tree. The whole operation was a waste of time."[9]
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May 2, 2021 05:07
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Bro Dad posted:The Yakubin lmao
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May 2, 2021 05:28
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why do people always bring up the gender imbalance in china 30 million more men seems like a lot until you realize that's 2% of the population
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May 2, 2021 05:29
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because the chinese like all communists are extremely sexist not like americans with their giant equality penises
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May 2, 2021 05:53
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:China is the world's biggest CIA graveyard. lol
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May 2, 2021 05:53
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