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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
If you want to watch Entourage but even stupider and more boring watch Ballers.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Nah watch the original HBO hit Arli$$$

Veib
Dec 10, 2007


I watched like two seasons of Entourage when it first aired and the only episode I remember is the one where Ralph Macchio is banned for life from the Playboy mansion because of a misunderstanding. I'm pretty sure that was the first time I saw him in anything besides Karate Kid, so that was fun and novel

hyperhazard
Dec 4, 2011

I am the one lascivious
With magic potion niveous

The Moon Monster posted:

I was thinking about Elvis the other day, for some reason. He was definitely well before my time but still a major cultural icon when I was a kid. For instance I had the movie Rockadoodle on VHS which was about Elvis if he was a chicken (also some live action bits about a boy drowning or something idk). I can't imagine kids these days even know who he is.

I'm sure at some point Elvis will fade into cultural obscurity, but we're not that far along yet. I doubt many Zoomers (or Millennials or Gen Xers) could tell you anything in-depth about his life or career, but the caricature of a guy in a pompadour and white jumpsuit is pretty universal.

What's sad is that so many more talented people (mostly POC) are getting lost in the shuffle. A couple of friends had never seen Blues Brothers, so we had a movie night. It really doesn't have the same punch when you don't know who the cameos are. They recognized Aretha and sort of remembered James Brown, but no one else knew who Cab Calloway was which was kind of depressing.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

hyperhazard posted:

no one else knew who Cab Calloway was which was kind of depressing.

I guess they took his segment from Sesame Street (how I learned who he was) out of rotation a long time ago, maybe not that long after Blues Brothers.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I guess they took his segment from Sesame Street (how I learned who he was) out of rotation a long time ago, maybe not that long after Blues Brothers.
Unironically at this point I think the most likely source to learn about him is racist Looney Tunes casinos and/or that Cuphead kerfluffle over same.

Sir Bobert Fishbone
Jan 16, 2006

Beebort
Or 1932 comedy classic International House which was my first exposure to Cab Calloway as a child.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:

Or 1932 comedy classic International House which was my first exposure to Cab Calloway as a child.
mine was The Forbidden Zone

:nws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMpTHUVN9r0

In terms of not aging well, it's just been rereleased with all the blackface digitally converted to clownface

hallo spacedog
Apr 3, 2007

this chaos is killing me
💫🐕🔪😱😱

Fatty Crabcakes posted:

mine was The Forbidden Zone

:nws:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMpTHUVN9r0

In terms of not aging well, it's just been rereleased with all the blackface digitally converted to clownface

I put that on a few years ago when I was on lsd and got...really really confused about the whole thing. Like my brain couldn't parse if I was actually seeing blackface or not. I turned it off and watched suspiria instead.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

hallo spacedog posted:

I put that on a few years ago when I was on lsd
oh no

that was a mistake

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin
I’m watching a two hour video about Homestuck, and let me just say

Lmao, Homestuck

CHIMlord
Jul 1, 2012
Somebody on Tumblr said that I was Vriska once and I don't know how to feel about that (even after watching that video).

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

I like Homestuck, but I'll never pretend to actually understand what the hell happened in it beyond a really broad "kids and troll kids do a lot of time paradox poo poo in a videogame to create a new universe."
That's the extent of my understanding.
Beyond that, I just buckle up and enjoy the ride.

Blood Nightmaster
Sep 6, 2011

“また遊んであげるわ!”

the_steve posted:

I like Homestuck, but I'll never pretend to actually understand what the hell happened in it beyond a really broad "kids and troll kids do a lot of time paradox poo poo in a videogame to create a new universe."
That's the extent of my understanding.
Beyond that, I just buckle up and enjoy the ride.

This was (and I think still is) honestly the best way to experience it IMO, just not taking any of it too seriously at any point

I think the part of Homestuck that aged the worst is literally the medium it was made in, since it relied heavily on Flash animation. There have been various conservation efforts to preserve what reading it was like while it was coming out, sure, but the site itself is a poo poo show that's like, 20% html5 conversions and 80% embedded youtube videos of dubious quality

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Suddenly remembered a mid-00s Cartoon Network show, My Gym Partner's A Monkey, which has some weird subtext. The concept is a human kid ends up sent to a school of talking animals due to a bureaucratic mix-up, and the strong overtones throughout the show is basically that of a white kid being sent to a minority school during segregation. There's even an episode where the protagonist has to wear a humiliating animal costume for a part-time job, and the animal school treats it as if he's been performing in blackface.

Also, the titular monkey pal is... pretty clearly gay for the protagonist. (mind you, he's an obsessive type in general) There's a bit where he goes to the human's former school for a day and finds that all humans look alike to him... which he thinks is great, because it means everyone looks like his best friend.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014
Lol the dude who Turtle drøm Entourage is based on produced Gotti. He also just had a kid with one of the women from Vanderpump Rules
.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Sarcopenia posted:

Lol the dude who Turtle drøm Entourage is based on produced Gotti. He also just had a kid with one of the women from Vanderpump Rules
.

Gotti was directed by the guy who played E

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Henchman of Santa posted:

Gotti was directed by the guy who played E
Lmao. What a super group.
I don't know if this fits the thread, but there's a really good article on the Turtle dude's career. He's basically helping aging male movie stars keep their toilets gilded by giving them steady low effort work in bargain bin movies.
https://www.vulture.com/article/randall-emmett-movies.html

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Henchman of Santa posted:

Gotti was directed by the guy who played E

Audiences Loved GOTTI

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Sarcopenia posted:

Lmao. What a super group.
I don't know if this fits the thread, but there's a really good article on the Turtle dude's career. He's basically helping aging male movie stars keep their toilets gilded by giving them steady low effort work in bargain bin movies.
https://www.vulture.com/article/randall-emmett-movies.html

The spirit of Uwe Boll lives on!

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

hyperhazard posted:

I'm sure at some point Elvis will fade into cultural obscurity, but we're not that far along yet. I doubt many Zoomers (or Millennials or Gen Xers) could tell you anything in-depth about his life or career, but the caricature of a guy in a pompadour and white jumpsuit is pretty universal.

I do think right now we're at the point where any Elvis reference is a parody of a parody, which is right before the point where it will simply not make sense to modern audiences anymore.
There seemed to be a long time where just vaguely resembling Elvis in sound or appearance was accepted as a joke in and of itself. A lot of that stuff is kind of confusing now.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Re Elvis stuff:

Here's the theme tune to an Australian cartoon I vaguely remember watching on the ABC when I was a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfyoP2-ohE

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

BrigadierSensible posted:

Re Elvis stuff:

Here's the theme tune to an Australian cartoon I vaguely remember watching on the ABC when I was a kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKfyoP2-ohE

Johnny Bravo was basically Elvis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_46a4va40Ns

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

IIRC, Seth McFarlane got his start on that show. Explains a lot, oddly enough.

Though I'm pretty sure one of the first episodes does point out that Johnny Bravo's whole attitude is ludicrously outdated on top of all its issues. (that said, it's canon that he's not a virgin)

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

IIRC, Seth McFarlane got his start on that show. Explains a lot, oddly enough.

Though I'm pretty sure one of the first episodes does point out that Johnny Bravo's whole attitude is ludicrously outdated on top of all its issues. (that said, it's canon that he's not a virgin)

Not gonna lie, I still get :smith:'d out over that episode where he meets his perfect match and she erases his memory of her because she's a secret agent and doesn't want him to get hurt.

Super Waffle
Sep 25, 2007

I'm a hermaphrodite and my parents (40K nerds) named me Slaanesh, THANKS MOM
Johny Bravo was a fantastic show for young boys, it gave you a character that seemed at first like something to strive for, strong, attractive, confident. But it became quickly apparent that Johnny was a buffoon and his actions and attitude alienated everyone around him, especially the way he treated women. It was an excellent and entertaining portrayal of what NOT to become and how not to act that.

I loved the episode where a stereotypical ugly woman falls for him, and every attempt to get rid of her just makes her fall more for him. Eventually he realizes that while she's unattractive, she is everything he's ever wanted in a woman. So he does a 180, starts his usual pickup routine, and she immediately dumps him.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
I’m pretty sure it’s Johnny Bravo that got me hooked on Reverend Horton Heat as a kid.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Ghost Leviathan posted:

IIRC, Seth McFarlane got his start on that show. Explains a lot, oddly enough.

Though I'm pretty sure one of the first episodes does point out that Johnny Bravo's whole attitude is ludicrously outdated on top of all its issues. (that said, it's canon that he's not a virgin)

That was the entire show. The creator Van Partible actually said that when he showed it to the execs at cartoon network, the women were 100% on board immediately because they all knew someone like that irl and they really enjoyed watching a woman kick the poo poo out of him. The male execs were a lot more unsure about it.

Super Waffle posted:



I loved the episode where a stereotypical ugly woman falls for him, and every attempt to get rid of her just makes her fall more for him. Eventually he realizes that while she's unattractive, she is everything he's ever wanted in a woman. So he does a 180, starts his usual pickup routine, and she immediately dumps him.

I liked the Schoolhouse Rock episode where a nebbish nice guy sings 70s songs about the importance of respecting women and is way more successful than Johnny at getting phone numbers and dates until the women all find out that hes been getting numbers from all of them and kick the poo poo out of him for being a creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPpJNGYAOY

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

I liked the Schoolhouse Rock episode where a nebbish nice guy sings 70s songs about the importance of respecting women and is way more successful than Johnny at getting phone numbers and dates until the women all find out that hes been getting numbers from all of them and kick the poo poo out of him for being a creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPpJNGYAOY

That nebbish guy was Jack Sheldon who performed "Conunction Junction" and "I'm Just a Bill" on Schoolhouse Rock in the 70s.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Johnny Bravo's writing varied season to season, does get interesting in a few cases. Apparently the creators have said Johnny does succeed in picking up women offscreen, presumably for the Boomhauer reason; you hit on enough women without letting rejection get to you and eventually you'll meet someone with low enough standards at that time to accept. (and one can imagine they don't stick around long)

Also, Johnny has a disturbingly higher success rate at hitting on animal and part-animal females, including a literally foxy nurse returning his flirting in the Dr Moreau spoof episode. Animal magnetism, maybe. He did have a serious relationship with Velma in that one CN bumper.

I still like the fanon that Johnny inevitably loses his virginity to Panty from Panty and Stocking, given she's shown loving tons of men who look more or less exactly like him and has pretty similar standards.

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

That was the entire show. The creator Van Partible actually said that when he showed it to the execs at cartoon network, the women were 100% on board immediately because they all knew someone like that irl and they really enjoyed watching a woman kick the poo poo out of him. The male execs were a lot more unsure about it.


I liked the Schoolhouse Rock episode where a nebbish nice guy sings 70s songs about the importance of respecting women and is way more successful than Johnny at getting phone numbers and dates until the women all find out that hes been getting numbers from all of them and kick the poo poo out of him for being a creep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPpJNGYAOY

I can see that going down great. While pop culture is still rather lacking of positive examples of male sexuality role models, an example of what not to do is useful, and Johnny embodies it. You can be good looking, fit and well groomed and still have a repellent attitude.

Also gets interesting in that it shows there's worse than Johnny; for all his many faults, he's open and honest about his intentions, has lines he won't cross (will back right off if a woman is in a relationship) and doesn't misrepresent himself. (Even when he does try to change his persona to impress a woman, he makes an honest go at it)

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Ghost Leviathan posted:


I still like the fanon that Johnny inevitably loses his virginity to Panty from Panty and Stocking, given she's shown loving tons of men who look more or less exactly like him and has pretty similar standards.

Isn't he a teenager? Why is this even a thing people wonder about

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Len posted:

Isn't he a teenager? Why is this even a thing people wonder about

Shipping really doesn't follow many rules

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Len posted:

Isn't he a teenager? Why is this even a thing people wonder about

Pretty sure he's in his 20s, there's and episode with highschool flashbacks.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

Pretty sure he's in his 20s, there's and episode with highschool flashbacks.

Yeah, they flashback to his high school prom, and then back to present day where his date now has 7 kids.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Zil posted:

Shipping really doesn't follow many rules

also adults caring about highschoolers , college freshman, young adults and their love life has been a thing forever.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
How do you read Johny Bravo as a teenager?
Granted he lives with his mom but that's clearly adult living with a parent thing.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I think because it was on Cartoon Network.

But I don’t think they would be interested in a kid trying to acore dates

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Google says season 1 he was 17, 2 he was 18, and 3 he was 19
Edit: depending on which link you click

Len has a new favorite as of 20:45 on May 2, 2021

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

Johnny Bravo out here tryin to get laid at 1 years old? drat

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Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Len posted:

Google says season 1 he was 17, 2 he was 18, and 3 he was 19
Edit: depending on which link you click
He's in his 20s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1moM7ZTFlE&t=136s

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